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punky206765 + Multi's [busted, Reset]

Postby adamk89 on Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:07 am

punky206765 and watermelon are multies because watermelon eleminated
punky206765 target after punky ended and water melon was off line the got back on when
punky206765 ended
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Re: multie

Postby Anarkistsdream on Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:08 am

adamk89 wrote:punky206765 and watermelon are multies because watermelon eleminated
punky206765 target after punky ended and water melon was off line the got back on when
punky206765 ended



Use the form...
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Re: multie

Postby delboy01 on Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:18 am

adamk89 wrote:punky206765 and watermelon are multies because watermelon eleminated
punky206765 target after punky ended and water melon was off line the got back on when
punky206765 ended


Ha ha ha. Now multi's are reporting multi's. That is real class!!!

Costing you points is it!!!
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punky206765 + Multi's [pending]

Postby delboy01 on Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:27 am

Accused:


The accused are suspected of:
  • Being Multis/secret alliance


Game number(s):

PLEASE NOTE: I HAVE ONLY INCLUDED GAMES CONTAINING 3RD PARTY PLAYERS. EACH OF THE ABOVE HAVE PLAYED COUNTLESS GAMES WITH EACH OTHER.


Posted on behalf of adamk89 because he seems incapable of following simple instructions!!

The first named uses the others to win doodle assassin games.

The second named is his 'friend' who sits in the same room!!! And also uses all of the other accounts listed.

IF THIS ONE DOES NOT DESERVE A SCORE RESET THEN I DON'T KNOW WHAT DOES!!!!!
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Re: punky206765 + Multi's

Postby Bruceswar on Wed Jul 30, 2008 12:30 pm

Very interesting. Just about a week or so ago I had a private game, one in which is was mainly better ranks. At the time of the game start he was a LUT by games end he was a Captain. Anyhow a comment from him....


"2008-07-20 20:14:36 - punky206765: i feel outranked here "

All of a sudden he would be the highest ranked player in that game. hmmm. Something smells foul here!
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Re: punky206765 + Multi's

Postby trapyoung on Wed Jul 30, 2008 12:34 pm

Shady thing I saw from him earlier today, he knew who another person's target was immediately at the start of the game and then offered to eliminate that person for him...

I don't think the person he was offering to help was cheating but I did think it was shady and a bitch move at the least.

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2008-07-30 09:23:20 - punky206765: ill kill orange for u kid
2008-07-30 09:23:51 - hatta76: you do and your reported
2008-07-30 09:23:55 - trapyoung: what the f*ck?
2008-07-30 09:24:18 - Kid_A: how the hell did you know my target?
2008-07-30 09:24:36 - punky206765: cuz im pro... lol
2008-07-30 09:24:50 - youtoo00: or u the same person
2008-07-30 09:25:03 - punky206765: it was a nice guess by the way u drop
2008-07-30 09:25:12 - Kid_A: and having you kill him for me defeats the purpose of playing, and is unethical
2008-07-30 09:25:17 - Kid_A: ....
2008-07-30 09:25:17 - trapyoung: how the f*ck can u guess from the drop
2008-07-30 09:25:26 - punky206765: i was kidding
2008-07-30 09:25:30 - Kid_A: but if you want to hit russia i wont complain :DDD
2008-07-30 09:25:49 - trapyoung: which part,u taking out orange or the drop
2008-07-30 09:26:21 - punky206765: if he was after anyone else, he would have dropped conga
2008-07-30 09:26:41 - Kid_A: not true
2008-07-30 09:26:43 - punky206765: he could go through yellow, blue, and teal
2008-07-30 09:26:45 - trapyoung: what about me?
2008-07-30 09:26:48 - trapyoung: i was in china & aus
2008-07-30 09:26:50 - punky206765: karel is after pink
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Re: punky206765 + Multi's

Postby delboy01 on Wed Jul 30, 2008 5:11 pm

The games I have listed above are just the latest. There are literally hundreds!!!
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Re: punky206765 + Multi's

Postby punky206765 on Wed Jul 30, 2008 6:11 pm

i was on vacation and just got back today. I had jackofalltrades and pinoyclaus take turns for me while i was gone. I posted this in my clan forum
punky206765 wrote:im looking for someone to take my turns for me. Im leaving on friday and will be gone for the week camping with my gf(i promised her no technology other than an emergency cell phone, so i cant take my turns) can someone pm me and i give them my pass

and jack promised to take turns for me and asked for some help, so i also had pinoyclaus play some turns. If he multies then it shouldn't' be my problem, should it? The nods can reset my score to pre-friday would be fine by me, but i shouldnt be banned for something i didnt do.

*also me and pinoyclaus cannot be multis because we played a speed game together
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Re: punky206765 + Multi's

Postby trapyoung on Wed Jul 30, 2008 7:39 pm

hahaa because a multi has never played a game between himself and his multi before..
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Re: punky206765 + Multi's

Postby delboy01 on Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:16 am

punky206765 wrote:i was on vacation and just got back today. I had jackofalltrades and pinoyclaus take turns for me while i was gone. I posted this in my clan forum
punky206765 wrote:im looking for someone to take my turns for me. Im leaving on friday and will be gone for the week camping with my gf(i promised her no technology other than an emergency cell phone, so i cant take my turns) can someone pm me and i give them my pass

and jack promised to take turns for me and asked for some help, so i also had pinoyclaus play some turns. If he multies then it shouldn't' be my problem, should it? The nods can reset my score to pre-friday would be fine by me, but i shouldnt be banned for something i didnt do.

*also me and pinoyclaus cannot be multis because we played a speed game together
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And they keep attacking your target in assassin games because ********.

[fill in the missing word to win a prize]

1st place - A loss of premium.
2nd place - A score reset.
3rd place - A total loss of credibility due to the fact that you cheat and have the nerve to claim innocence.........just like all the rest.
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Re: punky206765 + Multi's

Postby Jackofalltrades on Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:17 pm

Greetings all. First off let me state the facts then ill give my opinion. I did in fact tell punky that i would watch over his account and keep his games current because he had personal trip w/ girlfriend that wanted technology free time. Being married i understand and didn't think it would be a problem, however I did ask him if there would be a second person also accessing his account and helping as stated am a family man with 2 jobs. As long as i have known punky he has been ranked higher than myself and is a good player skill wise. But in so far as score swings if the second person taking turns for him multied then let that be corrected but don't hammer punky for it. It may have been an error of judgement to allow that person to help but things can't always be know ahead of time hindsight 20/20 (sayin this as i have had to kick my brother from my house for disrespecting me, bringing a drunk woman into my house that i don't know where i have kids and then not saying anything or asking) can't say i saw it coming.....

so if truly at fault correct, BUT don't make a witch hunt of it. Also punky keeps from what i saw over 70+ games open at one time of which he probably scaled down b4 his vacation. I know firsthand the amount of points that can swing back and forth my current rank as a major was achieved thusly in approximately a week and a half's time maintaining over 40-50 games running of 8 man games of which if u win can give over 100 points each. So if a person manages to turn over a handful of games in a fairly quick manner of this type it could show a large swing. Without further investigation, I can't tell but from what i know of punky he is an upstanding and nice person. I say all of this with the frame of mind that I detest cheaters and thieves. I'm a teacher i fail adults paying $13,000 for a 1 year course in HVAC trade school for cheating. I have been robbed on fathers day.

All of this in mind, I am loath to accuse people of cheating quickly because in the end, they will get what is coming to them eventually and it often leaves them shallow and at a loss even through their gains. If you want to flame punky take it to another forum.
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Re: punky206765 + Multi's

Postby delboy01 on Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:34 pm

Jackofalltrades wrote:Greetings all. First off let me state the facts then ill give my opinion. I did in fact tell punky that i would watch over his account and keep his games current because he had personal trip w/ girlfriend that wanted technology free time. Being married i understand and didn't think it would be a problem, however I did ask him if there would be a second person also accessing his account and helping as stated am a family man with 2 jobs. As long as i have known punky he has been ranked higher than myself and is a good player skill wise. But in so far as score swings if the second person taking turns for him multied then let that be corrected but don't hammer punky for it. It may have been an error of judgement to allow that person to help but things can't always be know ahead of time hindsight 20/20 (sayin this as i have had to kick my brother from my house for disrespecting me, bringing a drunk woman into my house that i don't know where i have kids and then not saying anything or asking) can't say i saw it coming.....

so if truly at fault correct, BUT don't make a witch hunt of it. Also punky keeps from what i saw over 70+ games open at one time of which he probably scaled down b4 his vacation. I know firsthand the amount of points that can swing back and forth my current rank as a major was achieved thusly in approximately a week and a half's time maintaining over 40-50 games running of 8 man games of which if u win can give over 100 points each. So if a person manages to turn over a handful of games in a fairly quick manner of this type it could show a large swing. Without further investigation, I can't tell but from what i know of punky he is an upstanding and nice person. I say all of this with the frame of mind that I detest cheaters and thieves. I'm a teacher i fail adults paying $13,000 for a 1 year course in HVAC trade school for cheating. I have been robbed on fathers day.

All of this in mind, I am loath to accuse people of cheating quickly because in the end, they will get what is coming to them eventually and it often leaves them shallow and at a loss even through their gains. If you want to flame punky take it to another forum.


So what date was the sitting request made?
Why was it not posted in each game that a sitter was taking turns?
And why were sitters allowed to play in the same games?

I have added some other names as well. And I'm still digging.
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Re: punky206765 + Multi's

Postby prismsaber on Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:26 pm

Looks very fishy - I will have to drop several trips/quads matches in which I'm teamed with Punky until the investigation is complete.
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Re: punky206765 + Multi's

Postby Joodoo on Fri Aug 01, 2008 10:31 am

#-o Someone has got to fix the doodle earth loophole, it's so popular for multi's abuse...
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Re: punky206765 + Multi's

Postby Jackofalltrades on Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:47 pm

Requested on clan post July 23. The games where i did play i posted saying that i was playing. And i may be mistaken but slightly but i think we only had 1 or 2 games that were not clan private games where the two of us were playing while he was away. I have games last for months sometimes so. Frankly i thought nothing of taking his turns even where i was in an opposing team of a 8 man doubles match with my clan, however i tried to remain respectful and not read their chat log using only clickable maps to take my turn. Occasionally you can't choose all of the circumstances of a particular situation.

In so far as the other person(s) are concerned i can't judge nor have the time to do the research. Any questions or info required will be promptly givin from my corner if asked.

I suggest however delboy that you attempt to be a bit more subjective in your reporting. You appear to be drumming this up before the investigation is done. I am not aware of how they fully investigate but i'm sure that the IP addresses will tell a fair story. It is ok to investigate but to presume guilt before proven pisses me off. I have been on the wrong end of court before and frankly an innocent person or even a guilty one is allowed due process. So allow for a bit more respect. Unless your a mod state your suspicions and leave it at that and let the professionals handle it from there.
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Re: punky206765 + Multi's

Postby delboy01 on Fri Aug 01, 2008 3:33 pm

Jackofalltrades wrote:Requested on clan post July 23. The games where i did play i posted saying that i was playing. And i may be mistaken but slightly but i think we only had 1 or 2 games that were not clan private games where the two of us were playing while he was away. I have games last for months sometimes so. Frankly i thought nothing of taking his turns even where i was in an opposing team of a 8 man doubles match with my clan, however i tried to remain respectful and not read their chat log using only clickable maps to take my turn. Occasionally you can't choose all of the circumstances of a particular situation.

In so far as the other person(s) are concerned i can't judge nor have the time to do the research. Any questions or info required will be promptly givin from my corner if asked.

I suggest however delboy that you attempt to be a bit more subjective in your reporting. You appear to be drumming this up before the investigation is done. I am not aware of how they fully investigate but i'm sure that the IP addresses will tell a fair story. It is ok to investigate but to presume guilt before proven pisses me off. I have been on the wrong end of court before and frankly an innocent person or even a guilty one is allowed due process. So allow for a bit more respect. Unless your a mod state your suspicions and leave it at that and let the professionals handle it from there.


I have been investigating this futher and have found games between those named dating back months and in some they eliminate punkys target. Which I do find strange.

It does look like someone joined games after the date published above therefore it would seem that 'someone' joined a number of games with the express purpose of making sure punky won. ALL of the above players were in each of these games and one of the named players won each game.

I have found freestyle games between some of those named, including punky, which show that they could NOT all be multi's.

It appears that you could be right and that punky is guilty of nothing more than allowing an idiot access to his account. (not you I must hasten to add :) )

I suggest that if he has not done so already that he change his password.

You should look at the games and the play. Anyone seeing those games would be suspitious. A series of assassin games all won by the same player with others attacking that players target and in some games eliminating them.

If punky is cleared then I will pm him an apology and post the same on the thread. However, someone is guilty for sure.
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Re: punky206765 + Multi's

Postby Jackofalltrades on Sat Aug 02, 2008 12:37 am

No understood and agree however becareful of being over zealous is all. Either way the truth will come to light. I just find it hard to believe that someone like punky with over...think 2000+ games i think (without looking) something huge compared to myself around 500 and of decent rank would bother to try and cheat at this point....though actually why anyone cheats is beyond me. The only reason i would do something intensionally less that honest or stealing would be to feed myself or children if i couldn't provide in normal means. Cheating is just beyond my scope of understanding frankly.
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Re: punky206765 + Multi's

Postby Assassin07 on Sat Aug 02, 2008 2:52 pm

i think punky206765 is a multi as i played him in assassin games befor and he never really won now he does all of a suden
IF YOU JOIN MULTIPLE OF MY 2 PLAYER GAMES AND FIND YOURSELF FOED IT IS ONLY TEMPORARY I AM ON A MEDAL HUNT.
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Re: punky206765 + Multi's

Postby Assassin07 on Sat Aug 02, 2008 2:59 pm

and he never wins the speed games only the casual with the new silver players
IF YOU JOIN MULTIPLE OF MY 2 PLAYER GAMES AND FIND YOURSELF FOED IT IS ONLY TEMPORARY I AM ON A MEDAL HUNT.
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Re: punky206765 + Multi's

Postby delboy01 on Sat Aug 02, 2008 6:51 pm

I have found evidence of a secret allance between punky and ANother. They stopped immediately after someone accused them in game chat.

Again it was assassin doodle. They attack each others targets. Attack neutral when they have each other as targets and even eliminate each others targets. I will post this data when I have looked at more games. Its 1am in the uk so Im off to bed.
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Re: punky206765 + Multi's

Postby ParadiceCity9 on Sun Aug 03, 2008 9:35 am

He won 4 8 man standard seq doodle games in a row...and watermelon was in all of those games. I feel like I just took a huge shaft and missed out on a ton of points..
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Re: punky206765 + Multi's

Postby daydream on Sun Aug 03, 2008 11:07 am

haha, punky is one of two people on my foe list. he has been there ever since he joined a bunch of my teamgames, because he was the worst player i have had to play in a team with. he had no idea what he was doing. his rank suggests that either there was an extreme boost in skill or something fishy is going on.
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Re: punky206765 + Multi's

Postby delboy01 on Sun Aug 03, 2008 1:43 pm

OK. Further to my post above here are a selection of games where the two persons concerned conduct a secret alliance, the other being alexpwnsnoobs. There are lots of others but some have already been archieved. Since kemmler accused them in game chat they stopped playing together playing out the remaining 5 games and losing all 5. This shows that punky is capable of cheating and seems to be extremely skilled in doing so. I would summise that others are involved in similar undertakings as well.


Game 2624274 kemmler accuses punky of being a multi in chat. No more assassin games between the two for ages and no wins in the 5 they have played since!!!
Game 2608307 alex attacks neutral as he is punkys target. Easy win for punky.
Game 2446453 punky attacks neutral as he is alexs target. And does not deploy in round 2. Easy win for alex.
Game 2432713 alex immediately attacks punkys target for an easy punky win
Game 2439430 alex immediately attacks punkys target for an easy punky win
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Re: punky206765 + Multi's

Postby punky206765 on Sun Aug 03, 2008 3:53 pm

well daydream.. my games consists of mainly trips and quads(btw i only suck at feudal wars, my map rank says im a cook in that map). I have improved a lot on many maps(but still suck at feudal). If u want to see how much i have improved ill play u to prove my point
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Re: punky206765 + Multi's

Postby delboy01 on Sun Aug 03, 2008 4:59 pm

punky206765 wrote:well daydream.. my games consists of mainly trips and quads(btw i only suck at feudal wars, my map rank says im a cook in that map). I have improved a lot on many maps(but still suck at feudal). If u want to see how much i have improved ill play u to prove my point


That is all totally irrelevant. The above games were a selection of the games you both played together. They were singles,8 player doodle assassins. The information given can be checked by all simply by clicking on the games. There are others but a lot have been archieved. It seems you no longer play with this person, as I said above, since kemmler accused you in game chat of cheating.

The information was posted as an example. I think your aims were very clear. Assist each other to win doodle games and thus gain 100's of points. If you win 50/60% of the doodle assassin games you play together you gain masses of points. This is what most of those cuaght with their fingers in the cookie jar have been doing.

You may or may not be doing this now. However, your association with some of those mentioned at the start of the thread goes back a long way and includes occasions when others elimante your target in assassin games.

If you did indeed go away and left your logon for two other people to use i'm somewhat supprised that they used that opportunity........to boast your score at the cost of their own. Makes absolutely no sense. I'm sure that the hunters will be looking at this but I had to dig more after the validity of the allegations was called into question.
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