Major+ 2008 Summer Doubles League [Winners: 1st Post]

[AndrewB]

AndrewB,

This is a formal protest on us being panalized. I find it out of place.

I wasn't aware it's not aloud (as was specifically indicated on the game chat). Moreover, as indicated in the chat, I was certain it's aloud. If I wanted to go behind the back of anyone or be dishonest in any way, I would have not done it on chat.

and to the point:
1. It was an inocent(!!!) offer as indicated from the chat.
2. Nothing really happen in the end of the day.

Thus,
I kindly request to reconsider the panalization.

I would welcome any remark by the other players as well, after reading this massage.

gp

Hi QP,

1. I appreciate your point that you might not be aware of the rule beforehand. I appreciate that you just played less then 200 games on this site. But nevertheless the rules are rules and must be followed.
2. The request was NOT innocent. It was aimed against all other players in group D. How would you like that to be done against you?
3. If something WOULD happen then you would have been disqualified right on the spot. And most likely you would have been banned from CC. You got penalty just for trying to do that.
4. I have consulted several players on this site about the issue. Including 2 Tournament Directors: Optimus Prime and Night Strike. Both of them have approved my line of actions.

I am sorry, but the penalty will stay. To be honest I was considering more harsh penalty then that.

PS. For what it is worth, by the look of it, you still will make it to the top 6 in your group.

[jiminski]

I was thinking about the format of the tournament. And i think the following would work the best:

in round 1 we have 36 teams
in round 2 we have 24 teams
in finals we have 12 teams

in round 1 we have 4 groups
in round 2 we have 2 groups
in finals we have 1 group

that way we decrease the number of teams every round by 12.

I think that would work the best. What do u say, guys?

And hopefully will reduce the number of cheating attempts? That everyone is not so desperate anymore LOL

Maybe:

in round 1 we have 36 teams
in round 2 we have 20 teams
in finals we have 8 teams

in round 1 we have 4 groups of 9
in round 2 we have 2 groups of 10
in finals we have 1 group of 8

but really you are the tourney guru Andrew.. whatever you want.

[gp24176281]

AndrewB,

This is a formal protest on us being panalized. I find it out of place.

I wasn't aware it's not aloud (as was specifically indicated on the game chat). Moreover, as indicated in the chat, I was certain it's aloud. If I wanted to go behind the back of anyone or be dishonest in any way, I would have not done it on chat.

and to the point:
1. It was an inocent(!!!) offer as indicated from the chat.
2. Nothing really happen in the end of the day.

Thus,
I kindly request to reconsider the panalization.

I would welcome any remark by the other players as well, after reading this massage.

gp

Hi QP,

1. I appreciate your point that you might not be aware of the rule beforehand. I appreciate that you just played less then 200 games on this site. But nevertheless the rules are rules and must be followed.
2. The request was NOT innocent. It was aimed against all other players in group D. How would you like that to be done against you?
3. If something WOULD happen then you would have been disqualified right on the spot. And most likely you would have been banned from CC. You got penalty just for trying to do that.
4. I have consulted several players on this site about the issue. Including 2 Tournament Directors: Optimus Prime and Night Strike. Both of them have approved my line of actions.

I am sorry, but the penalty will stay. To be honest I was considering more harsh penalty then that.

PS. For what it is worth, by the look of it, you still will make it to the top 6 in your group.

I c.

Fırst, to clarify, when I say 'innocent' I mean - I was certain I'm within the limits of the rules (as the chat can attest to).
And thus as to your question - I would had no problem if others would have done the same thing (thinking it's aloud).

Second, this tournament is a great one and I enjoyed it tremendously up to now.
But, I feel I can not accept your ruling.

It's not all about the loss of points. It's also about the bad air around the event. Tournament are supposed to be fun and I probably will not enjoy ıt after this afaır.

Adding all together, I decided to quit the tournament.
I thank u again for a great tournament and best of luck to everyone in it.

I hope u'll let my partner chose another partner and continue (if he so wishes).

gp

[AndrewB]

I c.

Fırst, to clarify, when I say 'innocent' I mean - I was certain I'm within the limits of the rules (as the chat can attest to).
And thus as to your question - I would had no problem if others would have done the same thing (thinking it's aloud).

Second, this tournament is a great one and I enjoyed it tremendously up to now.
But, I feel I can not accept your ruling.

It's not all about the loss of points. It's also about the bad air around the event. Tournament are supposed to be fun and I probably will not enjoy ıt after this afaır.

Adding all together, I decided to quit the tournament.
I thank u again for a great tournament and best of luck to everyone in it.

I hope u'll let my partner chose another partner and continue (if he so wishes).

gp

As I was saying I understand that you may not know the rule. But rule still applies. And too bad that you have decided to quit

Let me give you another perspective to this whole affair which may change your mind.

If I am speeding and I get caught I will receive a penalty - traffic ticket. Even though I didn't know that the speed limit was that much (I missed the traffic sign).

So what will I do? I would argue the ticket for sure. But in the end I will accept it and pay it. There is no escaping from that.

Does it make me a criminal? No
Will I stop driving all together? No
Will I stop driving on that road where I got caught? No
Will I be watching my speed in the future, especially on that road? You bet.

I hope you will make the similar judgment and stay in the tournament.

It would be a shame to see such a strong competitor to drop out.

[firstholliday]

jim and 1st win Game 2720102

[firstholliday]

either that or 36/18/9

works both fine for me.

that would be more difficult to pick up 18 teams out of 4 groups

why? pick best nrs 4 and either playoffs for the other 2 spots or best 2 of the nrs 5 go thrue.
They use this in wc football qualifications also.

But i'm happy with whatever you decide.

[artur1]

I was thinking about the format of the tournament. And i think the following would work the best:

in round 1 we have 36 teams
in round 2 we have 24 teams
in finals we have 12 teams

in round 1 we have 4 groups
in round 2 we have 2 groups
in finals we have 1 group

that way we decrease the number of teams every round by 12.

I think that would work the best. What do u say, guys?

And hopefully will reduce the number of cheating attempts? That everyone is not so desperate anymore LOL

This is a good idea andrew

[DiM]

full update.
round 1: 6-2
Game 2453224 - rd 10 - edbeard & DiM lost vs trapyoung & jpeter15
Game 2453019 - rd 9 - edbeard & DiM lost vs Siedshow99 & General Mojo
Game 2453134 - rd 10 - edbeard & DiM won vs Blind Date & Seulessliathan
Game 2453090 - rd 9 - edbeard & DiM won vs bigbullyweedave & -Marcos-
Game 2453228 - rd 21 - edbeard & DiM won vs AndrewB & David_Wain
Game 2453131 - rd 8 - edbeard & DiM won vs chard & Condor
Game 2453020 - rd13 - edbeard & DiM won vs DBandit70 & mbass
Game 2453088 - rd17 - edbeard & DiM won vs Forza AZ & dragon dor

round 2: 5-3
Game 2541899 - rd 10 - edbeard & DiM won vs trapyoung & jpeter15
Game 2541904 - rd 8 - edbeard & DiM won vs AndrewB & David_Wain
Game 2541858 - rd 9 - edbeard & DiM lost vs Seulessliathan & Blind Date
Game 2541772 - rd 8 - edbeard & DiM won vs Siedshow99 & General Mojo
Game 2541773 - rd 9 - edbeard & DiM won vs DBandit70 & mbass
Game 2541813 - rd 10 - edbeard & DiM lost vs bigbullyweedave & -Marcos-
Game 2541855 - rd 8 - edbeard & DiM won vs chard & Condor
Game 2541809 - rd 11 - edbeard & DiM lost vs Forza AZ & dragon dor

round 3: 4-4
Game 2640199 - rd 12 - edbeard & DiM won vs trapyoung & jpeter15
Game 2640204 - rd 6 - edbeard & DiM lost vs AndrewB & David_Wain
Game 2640158 - rd 10 - edbeard & DiM lost vs Seulessliathan & Blind Date
Game 2640044 - rd 11 - edbeard & DiM lost vs Siedshow99 & General Mojo
Game 2640046 - rd 10 - edbeard & DiM lost vs DBandit70 & mbass
Game 2640100 - rd 11 - edbeard & DiM won vs bigbullyweedave & -Marcos-
Game 2640155 - rd 12 - edbeard & DiM won vs chard & Condor
Game 2640097 - rd 14 - edbeard & DiM won vs Forza AZ & dragon dor

round 4: 3-3
Game 2719934 - rd 8 - edbeard & DiM won vs Siedshow99 & General Mojo
Game 2719980 - rd 8 - edbeard & DiM lost vs Forza AZ & dragon dor
Game 2720024 - rd 8 - edbeard & DiM lost vs Seulessliathan & Blind Date
Game 2720063 - rd 9 - edbeard & DiM won vs trapyoung & jpeter15
Game 2720068 - rd 9 - edbeard & DiM lost vs AndrewB & David_Wain
Game 2719937 - rd 10 - edbeard & DiM won vs DBandit70 & mbass

[AndrewB]

Tables are updated as of July 11.

Looks like we will have a tie-breaker in group A.

Group C is decided already.

[trapyoung]

is it top 6 or top 3 who advance? b/c if its top 6 couldnt you just take our head to head w/ seussliathan & partner, i think they may have taken 3 of 4 from us - if its top 3 could you conveniently forget their record against us ; )

edit: just checked, head to head is 2-2 actually...

[AndrewB]

is it top 6 or top 3 who advance? b/c if its top 6 couldnt you just take our head to head w/ seussliathan & partner, i think they may have taken 3 of 4 from us - if its top 3 could you conveniently forget their record against us ; )

edit: just checked, head to head is 2-2 actually...

Top 6, and you are in that top 6 already It is between us and -Marcos-

[trapyoung]

oooh, well that's a relief good luck - how are the maps selected?

[AndrewB]

oooh, well that's a relief good luck - how are the maps selected?

randomly from the pool of maps, as posted on the first page.

[DiM]

full update.
round 1: 6-2
Game 2453224 - rd 10 - edbeard & DiM lost vs trapyoung & jpeter15
Game 2453019 - rd 9 - edbeard & DiM lost vs Siedshow99 & General Mojo
Game 2453134 - rd 10 - edbeard & DiM won vs Blind Date & Seulessliathan
Game 2453090 - rd 9 - edbeard & DiM won vs bigbullyweedave & -Marcos-
Game 2453228 - rd 21 - edbeard & DiM won vs AndrewB & David_Wain
Game 2453131 - rd 8 - edbeard & DiM won vs chard & Condor
Game 2453020 - rd13 - edbeard & DiM won vs DBandit70 & mbass
Game 2453088 - rd17 - edbeard & DiM won vs Forza AZ & dragon dor

round 2: 5-3
Game 2541899 - rd 10 - edbeard & DiM won vs trapyoung & jpeter15
Game 2541904 - rd 8 - edbeard & DiM won vs AndrewB & David_Wain
Game 2541858 - rd 9 - edbeard & DiM lost vs Seulessliathan & Blind Date
Game 2541772 - rd 8 - edbeard & DiM won vs Siedshow99 & General Mojo
Game 2541773 - rd 9 - edbeard & DiM won vs DBandit70 & mbass
Game 2541813 - rd 10 - edbeard & DiM lost vs bigbullyweedave & -Marcos-
Game 2541855 - rd 8 - edbeard & DiM won vs chard & Condor
Game 2541809 - rd 11 - edbeard & DiM lost vs Forza AZ & dragon dor

round 3: 4-4
Game 2640199 - rd 12 - edbeard & DiM won vs trapyoung & jpeter15
Game 2640204 - rd 6 - edbeard & DiM lost vs AndrewB & David_Wain
Game 2640158 - rd 10 - edbeard & DiM lost vs Seulessliathan & Blind Date
Game 2640044 - rd 11 - edbeard & DiM lost vs Siedshow99 & General Mojo
Game 2640046 - rd 10 - edbeard & DiM lost vs DBandit70 & mbass
Game 2640100 - rd 11 - edbeard & DiM won vs bigbullyweedave & -Marcos-
Game 2640155 - rd 12 - edbeard & DiM won vs chard & Condor
Game 2640097 - rd 14 - edbeard & DiM won vs Forza AZ & dragon dor

round 4: 4-3
Game 2719934 - rd 8 - edbeard & DiM won vs Siedshow99 & General Mojo
Game 2719980 - rd 8 - edbeard & DiM lost vs Forza AZ & dragon dor
Game 2720024 - rd 8 - edbeard & DiM lost vs Seulessliathan & Blind Date
Game 2720063 - rd 9 - edbeard & DiM won vs trapyoung & jpeter15
Game 2720068 - rd 9 - edbeard & DiM lost vs AndrewB & David_Wain
Game 2719937 - rd 10 - edbeard & DiM won vs DBandit70 & mbass
Game 2720021 - rd 9 - edbeard & DiM won vs chard & Condor

[Jonsvoll]

Jonsvoll and larsin won Game 2720052

[BaldAdonis]

is it top 6 or top 3 who advance? b/c if its top 6 couldnt you just take our head to head w/ seussliathan & partner, i think they may have taken 3 of 4 from us - if its top 3 could you conveniently forget their record against us ; )

edit: just checked, head to head is 2-2 actually...

Top 6, and you are in that top 6 already It is between us and -Marcos-

Can you edit the first post to include all the new information about how we will proceed? It still says top 3.

[AndrewB]

Done.

[Jonsvoll]

Jonsvoll and larsin won Game 2640080

[AndrewB]

Tables are updated as of July 11.

Looks like we will have a tie-breaker in group A.

Group C is decided already.

No need to play the tie-breakers

-Marcos- bigbullyweedave didn't show up, received the penalty and thus no tie-breakers are needed.

[AndrewB]

All but one place in the semi-finals were decided.

Semi Finals will be started tomorrow or Wednesday. Depending on Game 2719993. Pedro needs to win this game in order to proceed further.

[AndrewB]

The game is finished. Semi-finals are started shortly!

Congratulations to everyone who has proceeded to the next round.

Thanks for participation to all players who whom the tournament is finished.

[pjdonald]

so is that 3-week July hiatus nixed?

[AndrewB]

so is that 3-week July hiatus nixed?

Yea No long holidays for me this year. Got cancelled twice

[Timminz]

So, Baldy and I finished 3rd in our group? Not bad, after a 1-7 start.

[AndrewB]

so is that 3-week July hiatus nixed?

Yea No long holidays for me this year. Got cancelled twice

LOL actually I just found out that I have 2 weeks holiday.Finally!!!

Oo-oo!

We might delay the start of semis until i Beginning of August. Just bare with me, let me find out!