killer_ace3 & Bam-Bam [blocked, reset]

by **Hotdoggie** on Mon Jun 23, 2008 4:58 pm

Accused:

The accused are suspected of:

Conducting Secret Diplomacy

Game number(s):

Comments:
The first game - it has nothing to do with cheating BUT it is the first game the two players played together AND it is a private game so that implies they know each other - they have played other private games together which further confirms this.

The second game - killer_ace3 kills one of Bam-Bams opponents territories then Bam-Bam easily kills the other one.

The third game - Bam-Bam repays the favour and kills killer_ace3s opponents LAST territory. Also, killer_ace3 is very general in the game chat and only calls him blue, as in he doesn't know him...maybe to avoid suspicion?

The fourth game - killer_ace3 knew EXACTLY to attack yellow in egypt, then a neutral in sarah desert and then found the last territory of his target [Bam-Bam] in Brazil...a little TOO convenient!

The fifth game - Bam-Bam kills 3 armies of silver for no reason what so ever. He attacked it 6v3 and suicided it down to the point of winning with no armies to spare. From there, killer_ace3 was able to take the win. Also to note is Bam-Bams VERY nooby response in the game chat DESPITE having played many doodle assassin games...basically trying to make a noob cover for helping his cheating partner.

The sixth game - Bam-Bam successfully kills killer_ace3. It could just be a well played doodle assassin game...but its worth noting.

The seventh game - Bam-Bam kills one of killer_ace3's targets territories then killer_ace3 quickly capitalises for ANOTHER win.

The eighth game - killer_ace3 is able to kill Bam-Bam...again just noting it cos' with everything else it IS significant.

The ninth game - They both attacked the same person but killer_ace3 came up short trying to kill him.

The tenth game - Bam-Bam suicides into a neutral and then killer_ace3 gets ANOTHER easy kill and win!

The EVEVENTH!!! game - killer_ace3 kills Bam-Bams target's last territory after trecking across the board to get to it.

The twelth game - One of them was targeting pink/purple and after killer_ace3 killed one of pink/purples territories, Bam-Bam took Sarah Desert and then suicided [unsuccessfully] into the other territory.

IMPORTANT THINGS TO NOTE:
---They both join games one after the other
---The games I have focused on are the games which were played with in two hours of each other [apart from the first game which just provided a bit of background for the pair]
---The total amount of games played was 35 so the amount of comments I had to make is A LOT!

Imo a block AND score reset for both parties is in order cos' there was a lot of points gained during this cheating but yeah...over to the cheating buster mod people thingies!

by **delboy01** on Mon Jun 23, 2008 5:10 pm

They could be multi's as well.

But this pattern looks very familar. ie doodle assasin games one player eliminates the others target. In one game bam bam attacks a neutral to leave himself an easy target.

by **Hotdoggie** on Mon Jun 23, 2008 5:13 pm

delboy01 wrote:They could be multi's as well.

But this pattern looks very familar. ie doodle assasin games one player eliminates the others target. In one game bam bam attacks a neutral to leave himself an easy target.

naaah they can't be multies cos' in some of the games they have played together they have played turns on the same second...but its secret alliance fosho. And yea...I mentioned about him attacking the neutral somewhere.

by **Bull22** on Tue Jun 24, 2008 2:14 am

yes i agree they hit me in doodle assin game also first killer ace and then bambam finisched me there are lot of games i did not see it earlyer Game 2706913

by **Bull22** on Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:37 am

and again 2711911

by **Hotdoggie** on Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:57 am

Bull22 wrote:and again 2711911

naaah that was with a different player so was prolly a genuine mistake.

by **Hotdoggie** on Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:35 am

*sneezes*

by **Darwins_Bane** on Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:39 am

huh....this seems kinda fishy, but needs more in depth study. Maybe if the mods look into it, or we can help them out by doing more research

by **Hotdoggie** on Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:14 am

Darwins_Bane wrote:huh....this seems kinda fishy, but needs more in depth study. Maybe if the mods look into it, or we can help them out by doing more research

Obvious cheating in 1/3 of the games on that day is MORE THAN enough evidence...and this is all of the evidence available anyway.

Im just waiting to see a blocked/reset in the title now.

by **load1** on Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:11 pm

same thing just happened to me.

game 2730647---BamBam weakens me only so that killer ace can take me out for the win. Also of note in this game, a lot of fake chat like they did not know each other.

game 2730650---BamBam takes out one of my countries and Killer ace comes out of nowhere like he knew exactly where i was to eliminate me for the win.

game 2730651---BamBam and killer ace again work together to double team an opponent for killer ace's win.

game 2730652---Same as above only killer ace returning the favor for BamBam.

These two guys are definately working together on these doodle assassin games.

by **Hotdoggie** on Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:52 am

Come on mods...these guys are cheating more and more...they need to be stopped.

by **Hotdoggie** on Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:06 pm

Game 2730650

a more recent game of cheating...

Come on Mods...they are winning bs amounts of pts now...killer has gone up 600 at least.

by **wrestler1ump** on Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:54 pm

Just because they play games together or refer to themselves as "blue" does not mean they've got a secret alliance. Maybe I should let them know what is being said about them and they can tell you straight up that they're not guilty.

by *manimal on Fri Jun 27, 2008 10:05 pm

wrestler1ump wrote:Just because they play games together or refer to themselves as "blue" does not mean they've got a secret alliance. Maybe I should let them know what is being said about them and they can tell you straight up that they're not guilty.

Rofl Everytime you talk wrestler you make yourself seem even more stupid.

by **Bruceswar** on Fri Jun 27, 2008 10:31 pm

wrestler1ump wrote:Just because they play games together or refer to themselves as "blue" does not mean they've got a secret alliance. Maybe I should let them know what is being said about them and they can tell you straight up that they're not guilty.

I alerted bam bam already.... seems he must not care... this was days ago

by **Hotdoggie** on Sat Jun 28, 2008 8:00 am

wrestler1ump wrote:Just because they play games together or refer to themselves as "blue" does not mean they've got a secret alliance. Maybe I should let them know what is being said about them and they can tell you straight up that they're not guilty.

Please read the entire thread next time...tyvm.

by **Hotdoggie** on Sun Jun 29, 2008 2:52 pm

This is rediculous now...its been just short of a week!

Mods please just read all the evidence and block them.

by **Bruceswar** on Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:16 pm

Hotdoggie wrote:This is rediculous now...its been just short of a week!

Mods please just read all the evidence and block them.

Why not a score reset as well?

by **lancehoch** on Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:22 pm

From what I have seen, a score reset is only imposed in cases where large amounts of points have been siphoned from one account to another. If you can prove that this has happened, please post in this thread.

by **Hotdoggie** on Mon Jun 30, 2008 6:06 am

lancehoch wrote:From what I have seen, a score reset is only imposed in cases where large amounts of points have been siphoned from one account to another. If you can prove that this has happened, please post in this thread.

wtf? If you read post one you would know that a large amount of points were put on killer_ace3's account cos' of this cheating.

The pair cheated in up to 13 doodle assassin 8 player games...each game yields 100 points+...thats a hell of a lot imo.

by **delboy01** on Mon Jun 30, 2008 6:26 am

Hotdoggie wrote:
lancehoch wrote:From what I have seen, a score reset is only imposed in cases where large amounts of points have been siphoned from one account to another. If you can prove that this has happened, please post in this thread.

wtf? If you read post one you would know that a large amount of points were put on killer_ace3's account cos' of this cheating.

The pair cheated in up to 13 doodle assassin 8 player games...each game yields 100 points+...thats a hell of a lot imo.

I have posted a thread in suggestions and bugs about the topic of score resets. Please click the link below and vote as you see fit.

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=55057

by **Hotdoggie** on Tue Jul 01, 2008 5:49 am

by **Hotdoggie** on Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:08 pm

JESUS CHRIST...I aint gonna bother doing this anymore...this is rediculous.

BUMP!!

by **lancehoch** on Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:35 pm

Four bumps in a 24 hour period is not going to get your thread looked at any faster. For your information, I have given a list to the hunters that contained all of the open threads that have not been looked at by a hunter from the first 5 pages of this forum. This one was on that list. Be patient, this will be looked into.

by **king achilles** on Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:33 am

killer_ace3 & Bam-Bam have been blocked from playing together for suspicions of helping one another in those games mentioned here. As for a possible score reset, we shall evaluate this a little further just to be sure.