Mystique [Busted, Blocked, Points Reset]

[trapyoung]

he didnt' say dorm, he said in his fraternity; what maps did the supposed cheating happen on? cuz if he convinces his friends to sign up and then play them in waterloo, for example, i think itd be pretty easy for him to maintain a 100% average

[Frop]

he didnt' say dorm, he said in his fraternity; what maps did the supposed cheating happen on? cuz if he convinces his friends to sign up and then play them in waterloo, for example, i think itd be pretty easy for him to maintain a 100% average

Mystique has played 41 1v1 games with the other accounts (100% win ratio). The freemium accounts do nothing else than randomly suicide in each game (preferrably against neutrals), leaving Mystique to mop up the remains in just two or three rounds.

Right now he has finished 48 1v1 games against them (100% win ratio still), 39 of those games have been played on Classic. Apart from that Etoh (the most active 'friend') has won 55 out of 84 Classic 1v1s (~65% win ratio) against other opponents, as opposed to losing 20 straight games against Mystique on the same map.

[cisco2001]

Frankly, there is no explanation. Mystique is cheating. I don't care if he / she calls them "friends" they are simply multis. When have you ever seen a cheater tell the truth? We've had a few confess, like KIDPAT, but it's always by accident. These high ranked cheaters always use the same pattern. They are invited to play in private games with elite players that they never or rarely win. As a result, they have to go back to their multis to gain some more points. They are sub par players that have cheated their way to the top.

Personally, I don't think that they should be banned. They deserve to have their points taken away. I'd love to see how if they could get to a high rank without cheating.

It's time to bust Mystique. Let's see CC take action and show these cheaters who is really in charge. Give us faith in the administration of this site. Nail these cheaters and let them know that they can't steal from the community for their own pathetic gain.

[Mr_Adams]

It's time to bust Mystique. Let's see CC take action and show these cheaters who is really in charge. Give us faith in the administration of this site. Nail these cheaters and let them know that they can't steal from the community for their own pathetic gain.

please, please. him, not them.

can't be a she. girls have sororities not freternities.

[JOHNNYROCKET24]

Talking to mystique in game chat, he claims that those 10 people are all people in his dorm at college.
So apparently he has a %100 win record against 10 other college kids.
I don't believe it at all.

lol... can everyone say SkyT

[Frop]

Talking to mystique in game chat, he claims that those 10 people are all people in his dorm at college.
So apparently he has a %100 win record against 10 other college kids.
I don't believe it at all.

lol... can everyone say SkyT

Sky and Mystique do not even remotely compare to eachother. Please stay on topic, Johnny.

[ParadiceCity9]

Talking to mystique in game chat, he claims that those 10 people are all people in his dorm at college.
So apparently he has a %100 win record against 10 other college kids.
I don't believe it at all.

lol... can everyone say SkyT

Sky and Mystique do not even remotely compare to eachother. Please stay on topic, Johnny.

Lol I think Frop should be a mod...

[Fruitcake]

Talking to mystique in game chat, he claims that those 10 people are all people in his dorm at college.
So apparently he has a %100 win record against 10 other college kids.
I don't believe it at all.

lol... can everyone say SkyT

Sky and Mystique do not even remotely compare to eachother. Please stay on topic, Johnny.

Lol I think Frop should be a mod...

Please stay on topic PC.

[cisco2001]

It is very surprising that Mystique has not defended himself. Also, he must know that he is going to be busted. KIDPAT just got nailed and Mystique is slightly more blatant in his cheating. The fact that he has not defended himself pretty much helps build the case against him.

[Darwins_Bane]

then again....think of how kidpat defended himself....lol

[wcaclimbing]

It is very surprising that Mystique has not defended himself. Also, he must know that he is going to be busted. KIDPAT just got nailed and Mystique is slightly more blatant in his cheating. The fact that he has not defended himself pretty much helps build the case against him.

played a speed game with him a few days ago. time to quote the chat:

2008-06-19 21:53:29 - wcaclimbing: mystique, aren't you the one getting accused for all the multis in Cheating+Abuse forum?

2008-06-19 21:54:14 - Mystique: dunno, don't check the forums.

2008-06-19 21:55:05 - wcaclimbing: apparently you've got at least 9 multis that you always play 1v1s against. I think your about to get busted on it, too. Might want to go check it if you are innocent

2008-06-19 21:56:29 - Mystique: already happened once, I stopped caring once they got it wrong the first time. But it looks totally suspicious, it's my entire frat house on the same IP - I think it's like 10 guys or something.

2008-06-19 21:57:41 - wcaclimbing: surely one of them would have won a game at least once against you. You have a 100 % win rate in those 1v1s

2008-06-19 21:59:03 - Mystique: shrugs, not a big deal to me.

I don't know.....

[cisco2001]

2008-06-19 21:56:29 - Mystique: already happened once, I stopped caring once they got it wrong the first time. But it looks totally suspicious, it's my entire frat house on the same IP - I think it's like 10 guys or something.

2008-06-19 21:57:41 - wcaclimbing: surely one of them would have won a game at least once against you. You have a 100 % win rate in those 1v1s

2008-06-19 21:59:03 - Mystique: shrugs, not a big deal to me.

Not a big deal to Mystique. I wonder if it would be a big deal if he had lost 100% of the fames?

I spent four years in a fraternity and I know that the last thing that I would have shared with by frat brothers would have been any passwords. Back in those days computers and the internet were novelties but I know that, given the opportunity, they would have used my password to pull my chain.

I think that Mystique is so fortunate to be in a fraternity where his brothers take a genuine and loving interest in his hobbies. I think that it's wonderful that 10 (ten) separate fraternity brothers have taken the time to join CC to help out a brother. Not only have they joined but they take the time to join his 1 vs. 1 games, hack into his account and make their moves and his too! Then, they play the game in such a way that he wins, usually in 3 rounds, every time. It most be wonderful to have 10 (ten) fraternity brothers that are so thoughtful. You know what else is great? They don't care about their own ranking. They only care about Mystique's ranking. I know this because they hack into his games and help him win; only when he is on the cusp of losing a high rank. Isn't that thoughtful?

It warms my heart that the spirit of unconditional love for brotherhood still exists in this country and that Mystique is able to benefit from that.

I think that Mystique's explanation of what has occurred with his fraternity brothers is more than satisfactory. I suggest that this investigation be dropped. Furthermore, in light of these incredible acts of humanity from his frat brothers, I suggest that we all chip in and buy them premium memberships. I think that they have earned it. I'm certain that Mystique would not object.

[Frop]

I don't think he meant they hacked his account in any way, but given the evidence that's besides the point. I'm more interested in how 'they got it wrong the first time', his first bust was even worse than this thread (he had his multis join team games on the opposing team as well as harvesting their points in 1v1s).

[trapyoung]

cisco i think you spent most of your post concocting some scenario which mystique never claimed nor suggested was the case. i was in a fraternity too and i can almost guarantee that i could pick 9-10 idiots that would virtually assure me an easy win to sign up and play. he seems so non-nonchalant about the entire accusation that either he is really that confident about this being a non-issue because he's been falsely accused like this before or he's so guilty he doesn't care. i believe it to be the former and not the latter. but i'm not a mod so my opinion really doesn't matter at all.

[Darwins_Bane]

cisco i think you spent most of your post concocting some scenario which mystique never claimed nor suggested was the case. i was in a fraternity too and i can almost guarantee that i could pick 9-10 idiots that would virtually assure me an easy win to sign up and play. he seems so non-nonchalant about the entire accusation that either he is really that confident about this being a non-issue because he's been falsely accused like this before or he's so guilty he doesn't care. i believe it to be the former and not the latter. but i'm not a mod so my opinion really doesn't matter at all.

if this is the case then how did he convince them to stay on so long, if they're the dumbasses you say they are. Also, why is that they only come on sometimes (ex. when he is losing) instead of all the time. As well, what about the first time he was accused and convicted, did you even take that into account?

[trapyoung]

from what i heard, and i did not search the forums, he had been accused before but that he wasn't busted. if i am wrong, then please correct me. i got friends i play with on the site who from time to time drop their game load and disappear for a while and it takes some goading from me to get them back on. back when i first started, i got my good friend jpeter15 to sign up and play & we played most of our games together (usually doubles & triples) but during the summer he's had other things come up so now he has a game load of maybe 4 games. that's pretty much disappearing for a kid who used to have 35 active at a time. most people have a consistent number of games they float around but others come and go as they please and i feel freemiums would more likely leave randomly then paying accounts

[Frop]

Like I said before, his previous bust doesn't seem false at all. Besides, we're not mods either, so your opinion is just as valuable as ours. The only difference is that I went through his 40+ 1v1 games, found very suspicions patterns and made an assessment of the situation. The hunters are here to judge whether or not it made any sense or that I'm just a paranoid retard.

[trapyoung]

can u post the link to the original one? i'd like to read it

[Frop]

Already linked it for you in my last post, but you can also click here.

[trapyoung]

whoops didnt see that : P

[cisco2001]

I was trying to be overly sarcastic about the whole fraternity thing. The fact remains that he plays high ranked players in private games. This thread has shown that he plys 1 vs. 1 games when his rank starts to go down. In short, he's picking up easy points. The fact that he has a 100% win history is enough of a red flag in itself.

I know that some players come in and out of this game as they feel the desire. However, what are the chances that every time he needs a hundred points there just happens to be somebody available to lose a bunch of games.

Luck plays a large part in 1 vs 1 games and a player with a good drop has a big advantage. It's impossible that out of 40 games there was not one occasion that some player did not have a fantastic drop against him. Also, if you look at the game logs you will see a pattern in which his opponents attack neutral or random territories that make no sense unless they favor Mystique. Which they do. The bottom line is that the game logs do not lie.

Also, if he was playing with buddies you would think that there would be some kind of interaction. There is none. No chat; just play. Even if, in fact, his friends were just helping him out. That, in itself, is still cheating.

He does not have an answer for any of this. Why? Because there is no logical explanation except for cheating. As far as I can tell, he does not cheat in his games with other high ranked players. KIDPAT just got busted and he would never cheat in private games with elite players. He just cheated in public games when he needed points. I think that Mystique's case is very similar. He may think that it's not really hurting anybody if he's just taking points from his multis. In a way, it's really not but it's still cheating.

Another thing to keep in mind is that he's got a history of this type of behavior. What really pisses me off is that he was given an opportunity to change his ways. Instead, he continues to cheat and has shown a complete lack of respect for this site and the players that participate fairly.

[Scott-Land]

Hope it's not true, I just joined 4 of his triples games..... KidPat and now this. How did I miss this thread?

[Frop]

Hope it's not true, I just joined 4 of his triples games..... KidPat and now this. How did I miss this thread?

You don't have to worry, Mystique has stopped putting his multis in team games after his last bust. Right now he limited it to harvesting points in 1v1s.

[Kemmler]

He's not doing this any more so I'd leave him alone.

[Nickbaldwin]

I killed a guy last week, but I'm not doing it anymore so I'm not a murderer.....

He's still a cheat.