Team games hidden from New Recruits *To-Do*

strike wolf · Post by **strike wolf** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 11:59 pm

AK_iceman wrote:Bad idea, just because some new players dont return doesnt mean we should punish all the new players. Try making some friends here, or play with people you have played with before and know that they will stick around.

Yeah, think about when you were new here. Would you want to be banned from playing certain games until you had played a certain amount?

gavin_sidhu · Post by **gavin_sidhu** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 12:58 am

herakilla is right, ive been meaning to ask a few friends to join the site, and was going to play a team game with them to show them the ropes, will this be impossible under the new rules?

Triforce · Post by **Triforce** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 1:11 am

Maybe something like the ignore list except the exact opposite? You can fill it with noobs you want to play before they rank.

Hoff · Post by **Hoff** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 1:38 am

Triforce wrote:Maybe something like the ignore list except the exact opposite? You can fill it with noobs you want to play before they rank.

Yeah I would completely agree with this. I am for the idea of banning noobs from doubles, but that would make it impossible to play with a friend you are introducing the site to. So I think this idea can only work if a "friends list" is set up.

reverend_kyle · Post by **reverend_kyle** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 3:11 am

My friend Zach "the saint" recently joined.. and today during schoool he's like I joined conquer club but I have no clue how to play.. turns out he had joined a triples game and didnt even know it.. luckily he hadnt attacked his teammate yet but he probably would have... I agree.

lackattack · Post by **lackattack** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 8:14 am

I understand that some people have terrific newbie team experiences and sometimes you want to play team games with your newbie friend, but these are really exceptional cases.

Team deadbeats are a very serious problem. 80% are from newbies.

Look, we can just hide team games from members who haven't finished a game yet, as is done with the scoreboard. Or we can make team games a special bonus you get with your first promotion

socralynnek · Post by **socralynnek** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 9:22 am

I am surprise that the poll records more "No" than "Yes".
When we joined, we joined to play singles games at first, team games came later.
I don't see a problem in awarding the team game ability with the first promotion. You have to earn it, but it doesn't take that long to complete it.
A lot of online games have some features which must be earned at the beginning. once they completed their first matches (maybe one should only count matches where one hasn't deadbeated there) , one has proven that one knows the basic rules of the game.

So I second the way, lack is thinking.

cattrain · Post by **cattrain** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 11:37 am

after reading all this, i think i would change my vote if i could...

sanityassassin · Post by **sanityassassin** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 11:42 am

As a newbie myself only joined a couple of days ago I had to say no it was the first time I played a double or triple game was on here and although I was playing with a deadbeat. how can you learn these new variations of the game without jumping right in at the deep end

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 11:45 am

I like the bonus with your first promotion idea.

mathgeni · Post by **mathgeni** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 11:47 am

Instead of stopping newbies from playing in a team game as their first game- i think i have a viable alternative whether it is possible to implement i'm not sure- My suggestion is that instead of stopping newbies from playing team games it could be made so that a newbie can join any game type they want and if the newbies misses their first 2 turns the game should be scrapped- that way the partner won't lose points for losing because of the DB and the opponents won't have to wait for the newbie to miss another turn before they get knocked out- and if possible you could give the opponents 5 points a piece and maybe the partner of the DB like 2 points for time invested in the game before it was scrapped- I think this little part would be good especially for people like me who don't have premium membership so we are limited to 4 games at a time and to get stuck in a game with a DB and get nothing would hurt us when we could have been in another game instead- IF you are going to comment on my post- PLEASE analyze and respond don't just criticise based on opinion- look at the validity of the statement first-TY

frankiebee · Post by **frankiebee** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 3:46 pm

I am newb, but hey, im just doing my best. After all ths is just a game and loosing because a newb made a stupid mistake issn't the end of the world ?

Scarus · Post by **Scarus** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 3:59 pm

I also like the bonus with the first promotion idea. This might even encourage noobs who will get a little incentive when they advance, and would lessen the amount of fodder in team games.

sfhbballnut · Post by **sfhbballnut** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 8:05 pm

something must be done

gavin_sidhu · Post by **gavin_sidhu** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:25 pm

Should have it that if the player was refered by a friend, the friend can play doubles with that person.

strike wolf · Post by **strike wolf** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 11:01 pm

Im just really disappointed in you lack. Here's some reasons I think they should be allowed:

1. If I had known there was such a thing as doubles games when I came to this site. That would have been the first thing I joined.
2. Just because some newbies deadbeat doesn't mean that all of them will deadbeat. (obvious but felt like saying it.)
3. If they don't understand the doubles concept when they first join, having them banned from doubles games won't help that.
4. Even if they do deadbeat that's good for me because I always have a set partner and it makes it easier for me and my partner to win.
5. If you get screwed over by a deadbeat partner, that's your fault for not bringing your own partner in.
6. Like some people have said it can be a good way for new people to get a better understanding of the game.

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 11:08 pm

80% of newbies deadbeating...is a problem. To me it is unfair for the community to deal with such a thing. Having doubles game unlocked after they hit private...or at least one game completed...seems like it is the fairest thing that can be done...for the community.

--Andy

DublinDoogey · Post by **DublinDoogey** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 11:27 pm

I like the first promotion thing, as long as it's from the '?' state to private. Myself, and I'm sure many others, have never gone above the private stage, but it's still fun to play team games every now and then.

P Gizzle · Post by **P Gizzle** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 11:33 pm

here's my point of view: im a new player. i find out i can't play team games until i've completed X amount of games. but, i find this other site :Landgrab: where i can play team games with my friends whenever i want.....hmmm....now come to think of it, that's all i want to do; play with my friends! now, im going to Landgrab.....

That's how it would've been if i were under this rule

minihaymanz · Post by **minihaymanz** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 11:40 pm

matbe have the team games filtered
not 'hidden' but they have to click another button to open up all of the team games...

like if your below a private, you can see the team games, but only if you click a button...that way those who DO want to play with friends CAN beacuse their FRIENDS will be able to FIND that button...those who just join any random game don't really look that hard for one...

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 12:00 am

P gizzle...good let them deal with the deadbeating problem. This might be our solution to it.

People have been crying out fora solution since it first came up, and this is by far one of the better ideas I've heard.

--Andy

sfhbballnut · Post by **sfhbballnut** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 12:07 am

was that a complement out of Andy?

P Gizzle · Post by **P Gizzle** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 12:34 am

AndyDufresne wrote:P gizzle...good let them deal with the deadbeating problem. This might be our solution to it. People have been crying out fora solution since it first came up, and this is by far one of the better ideas I've heard.

--Andy

well in my opinion (not that u care) i, as being once a noob, would not feel welcome here, and that's not how CC should be, otherwise the little game title suggestion would've been implemented, and so would've game rank filtering. so, do as u wish, but our new membership will go down.

gavin_sidhu · Post by **gavin_sidhu** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 12:57 am

why deal with a problem the majority think is fine the way it is?

AK_iceman · Post by **AK_iceman** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 1:55 am

I voted back at the beginning of this thread, and I voted no because I think we shouldnt prevent new players from joining team games just because they are new.

However, I would like to change my vote to yes, they should not be allowed to play team games until they have completed 1 game, or until they are promoted to private. This would greatly cut back on deadbeats in team games, and since team games are where deadbeats hurt the game the most, it makes a lot of sense. In standard games, if someone deadbeats its the same problem for everyone, its not unfair. However in team games it changes the whole strategy.

I used to play a lot of team games, and was always disappointed when a deadbeat happened. It is annoying for both teams, but especially for the team who lose a partner.

I feel this is a reasonable compromise and should be implemented in the next update. There might be a few members who don't stick around because of it, but the overall quality of team games will increase a LOT!

Team games hidden from New Recruits To-Do

Newbs should be banned from doubles and triples games

Ban on newbies in team games