[Abandoned] - Official Feudal War Revamp

[yeti_c]

BTW - don't like the cliff next to Feudal Empire...

The corner bit near river looks a bit gappy...

Consider colouring up the "empire" numbers a bit more too.

C.

[gimil]

BTW - don't like the cliff next to Feudal Empire...

The corner bit near river looks a bit gappy...

Consider colouring up the "empire" numbers a bit more too.

C.

Will do.

[bryguy]

now the cliffs look like a stone wall

[Ogrecrusher]

I always thought they WERE stone walls!

[bryguy]

I always thought they WERE stone walls!

wow where have you been? have u not seen people saying this:

BTW - don't like the cliff next to Feudal Empire...

New shinny cliffs.

So are these better cliffs for you gimil?

Ill try darkening the cliffs first

so as you can see, its obviously cliffs

[gimil]

I always thought they WERE stone walls!

wow where have you been? have u not seen people saying this:

BTW - don't like the cliff next to Feudal Empire...

New shinny cliffs.

So are these better cliffs for you gimil?

Ill try darkening the cliffs first

so as you can see, its obviously cliffs

And if you had been here bry you would of noticed that he was saying he THOUGHT they had always been walls/

[Kaplowitz]

If you had all been in the original Feudal War thread, i think they used to be walls....didnt want to search through the 40 pages.

[gimil]

If you had all been in the original Feudal War thread, i think they used to be walls....didnt want to search through the 40 pages.

They where going to be call then I went for cliffs.

[gimil]

Fixed the cliff for yeti but I couldnt get anything to work with the text.

[daydream]

Gimil,

I would like to suggest a change in Rebel Territories. Notice every other castle allows a player to attack 3 castles with locking themselves in. Granted, you could always leave one neutral left next to the castle; however, this still leads to an interesting deploy dilemma that other castles are not faced with.

Let me know your thoughts

hehe, this is the only issue appart from the Realm of Might one that is being fixed already i have ever had with this map. basically, on all other castles i can follow a strict path that will bring me to all 2's, but will always let me fort back to the castle to effectively use the autodeploy in the next turn and still leave me a path to all left over 2's, if you understand what i mean? its not an unsolvable problem, but for that reason i dont like being dropped on rebel, unless i have feudal as well.

edit: i just searched, and saw that i ahve played more than 350 feudal games. i think this speaks for how excelent i think your work is. thank you very much for this great map, and all the enjoyment (and points) it has brought me.

you seem to have missed this, just thought i would bring it to your attention, since earlier you had asked Torter to explain what he meant

[gimil]

Gimil,

I would like to suggest a change in Rebel Territories. Notice every other castle allows a player to attack 3 castles with locking themselves in. Granted, you could always leave one neutral left next to the castle; however, this still leads to an interesting deploy dilemma that other castles are not faced with.

Let me know your thoughts

hehe, this is the only issue appart from the Realm of Might one that is being fixed already i have ever had with this map. basically, on all other castles i can follow a strict path that will bring me to all 2's, but will always let me fort back to the castle to effectively use the autodeploy in the next turn and still leave me a path to all left over 2's, if you understand what i mean? its not an unsolvable problem, but for that reason i dont like being dropped on rebel, unless i have feudal as well.

edit: i just searched, and saw that i ahve played more than 350 feudal games. i think this speaks for how excelent i think your work is. thank you very much for this great map, and all the enjoyment (and points) it has brought me.

you seem to have missed this, just thought i would bring it to your attention, since earlier you had asked Torter to explain what he meant

My apologies for missing this out, but how would you suggest we fix it?

[MrBenn]

Gimil,

I would like to suggest a change in Rebel Territories. Notice every other castle allows a player to attack 3 castles with locking themselves in. Granted, you could always leave one neutral left next to the castle; however, this still leads to an interesting deploy dilemma that other castles are not faced with.

Let me know your thoughts

hehe, this is the only issue appart from the Realm of Might one that is being fixed already i have ever had with this map. basically, on all other castles i can follow a strict path that will bring me to all 2's, but will always let me fort back to the castle to effectively use the autodeploy in the next turn and still leave me a path to all left over 2's, if you understand what i mean? its not an unsolvable problem, but for that reason i dont like being dropped on rebel, unless i have feudal as well.

You could redraw the borders slightly, so that RT2 borders RT6, and so that RT3 no longer borders RT7... does that make sense?

[gimil]

Gimil,

I would like to suggest a change in Rebel Territories. Notice every other castle allows a player to attack 3 castles with locking themselves in. Granted, you could always leave one neutral left next to the castle; however, this still leads to an interesting deploy dilemma that other castles are not faced with.

Let me know your thoughts

hehe, this is the only issue appart from the Realm of Might one that is being fixed already i have ever had with this map. basically, on all other castles i can follow a strict path that will bring me to all 2's, but will always let me fort back to the castle to effectively use the autodeploy in the next turn and still leave me a path to all left over 2's, if you understand what i mean? its not an unsolvable problem, but for that reason i dont like being dropped on rebel, unless i have feudal as well.

You could redraw the borders slightly, so that RT2 borders RT6, and so that RT3 no longer borders RT7... does that make sense?

Ok ill do this.

[gimil]

Changed rebel Territory.

[oaktown]

this suggestion would be a purely aesthetic change... I don't really like the location of the signatures - kind of makes the legend a bit messy and they throw your eye off since they don't lie up with the other text... what if the three sigs were at the bottom of terits barb 1, 1,and 7?

And here's a general question about the play of the map which just occurred to me, since I am currently playing this map for the first time (and if this has been put to rest already you can just ignore me completely): it strikes me as a bit odd that you can collect a bonus for holding territories within a kingdom even if you don't control the castle. Seems like in a true feudal kingdom it is the guy at the top who is collecting taxes/tribute. But now you can control six territories of farmland in, say the Great Kingdom and collect a +3 bonus even if you aren't the Monarch of that kingdom.

It's an exceptionally fun map to play, by the way... it helps that I'm winning my game of course.

[gimil]

this suggestion would be a purely aesthetic change... I don't really like the location of the signatures - kind of makes the legend a bit messy and they throw your eye off since they don't lie up with the other text... what if the three sigs were at the bottom of terits barb 1, 1,and 7?

And here's a general question about the play of the map which just occurred to me, since I am currently playing this map for the first time (and if this has been put to rest already you can just ignore me completely): it strikes me as a bit odd that you can collect a bonus for holding territories within a kingdom even if you don't control the castle. Seems like in a true feudal kingdom it is the guy at the top who is collecting taxes/tribute. But now you can control six territories of farmland in, say the Great Kingdom and collect a +3 bonus even if you aren't the Monarch of that kingdom.

It's an exceptionally fun map to play, by the way... it helps that I'm winning my game of course.

I would rather move the sigs so that there are in the riber following round one of the bends.

Changing the game paly is something I woulnt like, the beauty of feudal is its possible to make a come back when someone owns more castles than you. A big part of this is holding bonuses in kingdoms even when you don own the castle. I think such a drastic game would be to much for gameplay and will casue more conflict than improvment.

[gimil]

Moved the sigs

[Telvannia]

I was strolling though the foundry when i noticed to my horror that is had not comment on this yet. So i decided to fit that problem:

• I stand by my constant complaint of the green-ness
  
  • Maybe add some fields by the villages
  • Make the paths you have seem slightly more muddy
  • Add a grey patch under the villages/castles instead of green to give the impression of streets ect.
• While im on villages, maybe add some more variety to them, because they are all rather one coloured.
• The forests dont look quite right:
  
  • Make them slightly darker overall so they stand out from the grass
  • Add a dropshadow to them so that they dont blend into the grass at the edges
• Maybe add some more scenery round the map in general:
  
  • A few houses around the place a bit like you have on the island in lake minstello
  • Fields as before, and maybe some signs of life, farms ect.
  • A few trees spread around the place.
• Maybe it is me, but the castles seem slightly green, feudal empire particularly so, maybe giving the different castles different colours would help.
• The shadows dont seem constant, the one on the bridge between lake minstello 8 and 9 has a shadow on the left hand side, whereas all the castles and cliffs have the below them.
• While im on the cliffs, making them more rock coloured, and giving them a bigger shadow might help them to look cliffy.
• While looking at cliffs i notivce the northern border of imperial dynasty looks wrong, surely it should fade into the cliffs
• Last thing but one, your mini-map still shows grey cliffs, not the newer ones.
• The legend really does not seem to fit this map, maybe if you make it look like it was carved out from some stones, or something similar.

Though despite all these problems, gimil, remember i love this map, perhaps my favourite graphically, i just love nit-picking slightly more I would go on a list all the things i like about this map but we would be here all night...

[edbeard]

I like the old green better. This feels too shiny to me.

[cicero]

I was strolling though the foundry when I noticed to my horror that I had not comment on this yet. So I decided to fit ...

lol

You certainly did that ...
[No offence Telvannia. Perhaps I'm being a bit presumptuous given that we've not 'met' before, but your typo together with the long list that followed tickled me ...]

The legend really does not seem to fit this map, maybe if you make it look like it was carved out from some stones, or something similar.

And, back on topic, Gimil I think Telvannia is spot on here.

[mibi]

If this is a revamp then how come you still have that same crappy title and legend. Christ that thing is ugly. There are actually too many graphical issues to name.

[daydream]

If this is a revamp then how come you still have that same crappy title and legend. Christ that thing is ugly. There are actually too many graphical issues to name.

wow, thats helpfull ^^

i saw what you did to rebel, and i like it! excelent work!

[gimil]

If this is a revamp then how come you still have that same crappy title and legend. Christ that thing is ugly. There are actually too many graphical issues to name.

I like how you are always helpful and suggestive, bravo to you

[mibi]

If this is a revamp then how come you still have that same crappy title and legend. Christ that thing is ugly. There are actually too many graphical issues to name.

I like how you are always helpful and suggestive, bravo to you

It was too late to type out a paragraph or two about whats wrong with these graphics, plus I already addressed them in the original feudal thread to no avail.

[cairnswk]

Gimil, first time i've taken a look at this revamp for a while.
I have to agree with mibi to a some extent....the map appears now less clear than it is did when it was quenched. Everything is very blury and i am finding it hard to read a lot of text.
The terit numbers are particularly hard to read.
I think some of it is because of the glow appearing on small font
The top line above the title i can't read at all....perhaps a different font?
The continents font is also difficult.
And yes I am wearing glasses.
The good news is that rivers and textures on the grasslands look great.