Changing the rules of Assassin games

[Jamie]

I am tired of losing assassin games due to somebody eliminating the wrong target, so here's a way more fair idea.

A - If someone eliminates the wrong target, that person will be eliminated from the game, and his armies become neutral. The assassin of the wrongly eliminated person will inherit the target of the person who was eliminated for eliminating the wrong person.

or

B - If someone eliminates the wrong target, he is eliminated from the game, and his armies are inherited by the person he wrongly eliminated. The person who inherits the idiot attackers armies will have the same assassin, and whoever was targeting the idiot attacker will now have to eliminate the idiot attackers original target.

In short, either option, if you eliminate the wrong target, you will instantly be eliminated yourself, preserving the game for everyone else.

[killmanic]

I like the idea but 1 problem, the person who eliminated the other person hasnt been hitting their target so its like the person is good who gets their guys is done anyhow it would be to late to catch up

[Timminz]

I don't play assassin games, but I voted B. At first, I thought it sounded like a really cool idea. After a minute of thought, I realize that that would really suck for the player who was trying to kill the wrongly-killed player. They do all the work to kill someone, and then the last terit gets taken by someone who's not paying attention. Bam! Full strength target again, and the assassin has just depleted them self "killing" their target.

[Jamie]

Both points above are good points, but there is no way to make it PERFECTLY fair, just more fair. Certainly more fair than it is now. And who knows what you will get after someone is wrongly eliminated. Even a weak person can defeat another weak person, leaving a weak target behind. Being left with a powerful target, when you once had a weak target, is better than the game being over, due to stupidity, or not paying attention. It would also prevent quite a few negatives.

[cicero]

I am tired of losing assassin games due to somebody eliminating the wrong target, so here's a way more fair idea.

I feel your pain Jamie, but ...

A - If someone eliminates the wrong target, that person will be eliminated from the game, and his armies become neutral. The assassin of the wrongly eliminated person will inherit the target of the person who was eliminated for eliminating the wrong person.

The true assassin of the wrongly eliminated person is likely to have done most of the work to put that person into a position to be eliminated. Just because an idiot attacker applies the killer blow doesn't make it fair to give the true assassin a brand new target; one which is highly likely to be stronger. And the wrongly eliminated person gains nothing; he is still eliminated.

B - If someone eliminates the wrong target, he is eliminated from the game, and his armies are inherited by the person he wrongly eliminated. The person who inherits the idiot attackers armies will have the same assassin, and whoever was targeting the idiot attacker will now have to eliminate the idiot attackers original target.

At first look this appears fairer than A in that the wrongly eliminated person can continue playing. However the true assassin of the wrongly eliminated person is likely to have done most of the work to put that person into a position to be eliminated. Just because someone else mistakenly applies the killer blow doesn't make it fair to give the true assassin a brand new target; one which is highly likely to be stronger whilst at the same time restoring their original target to a position of relative strength.

Frustrating as it is when a player eliminates the wrong target I believe the current system is the fairest.
Players who are very new sometimes make mistakes in assassin; typically because they just don't notice that they are joining an assassin game. The same thing is true in team games; newbies inappropriately attacking their team mates thinking they are playing a standard game.

Personally I find announcing the following in game chat helps ...
This is an ASSASSIN game. Anyone who is not sure of the rules of an assassin game please speak up now !

In short, either option, if you eliminate the wrong target, you will instantly be eliminated yourself, preserving the game for everyone else.

I guess what I am saying is that neither option actually 'preserves' the game, but instead changes it quite radically and always to the detriment of the true assassin of the 'wrongly' eliminated player. It could be argued that a better solution than either A or B would be to simply stop a player from eliminating the wrong player by removing any territories that would lead to a 'wrong' elimination from the attack dropdown ... but still I think it is better as it is; the possibility of 'wrong' eliminations is part of the strategy and fun of assassin games

[lancehoch]

Personally I find announcing the following in game chat helps ...
This is an ASSASSIN game. Anyone who is not sure of the rules of an assassin game please speak up now !

I think this is a good suggestion, but there are people who do not read the game chat at all, or new people might not notice it, since it is all the way at the bottom of the page (I know I did not see it for my first few games).