When the USA finally understands that it needs help...

[reminisco]

you know, Obama is as much white as he is black.

[khazalid]

i couldnt help but get the impression he was taking the piss...

[Dancing Mustard]

If 'hilarious duos of trolls posting funny shit to stir up alarm and outrage' be the food of love, play on.

[CrackAttack]

No, what doesn't know better is a woman

XFD good luck getting a woman to stop crying after breaking a nail over flipping the switch to blow up an entire nation because they made fun of her PURSE!

First good laugh I've had in ages.

[muy_thaiguy]

I somehow get the odd feeling of a person having an argument with their self throughout most of the thread. But that's just me.

[SnakeySnakey]

somehow I got the feeling someones voting for McCain

XD, good job trying to live in the past, loser!

[Napoleon Ier]

John McSame...hehehe...

No but seriously, America is royally screwed. I almost want Hillary or Obama to become president though, just so that the economy fucks up so bad, the pastry-faced socialist PC fairies can't turn the first black/woman president into their latest false idol.

[GabonX]

It will run into the warm arms of a strong black man named Obama

Strong?! I could clearly kick Obama's ass!!!

If you want a strong warm black man to be President then write in this guy...

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=f ... itesearch=


That said, it's probably not the best decision to vote for a candidate based on your physical attraction to them Snakey.

[SnakeySnakey]

Yeah, Dont compare a man to a dog, sorry. Plus Obama's half white, so we know that he alteast has half a brain. No offense my african-american mon- er... mates.

[GabonX]

Racist!!!

[suggs]

Yes, the USA is really screwed. Its the richest, most powerful empire the world has ever seen (the Romans -PAH- move over and check out global economic imperialism , Ancient MOFOs).

Sons of Franklin, where did it all go wrong?...

[GabonX]

Vietnam

[InkL0sed]

John McSame...hehehe...

No but seriously, America is royally screwed. I almost want Hillary or Obama to become president though, just so that the economy fucks up so bad, the pastry-faced socialist PC fairies can't turn the first black/woman president into their latest false idol.

You know that huge military budget we have? Yeah, that one that is bigger than the next 15 largest military budgets in the world? 3.7% of our total GDP.

[suggs]

Gabon, Vietnam is a good example of just how NOT screwed the Americans are. Everyone agrees that it was a disaster for the US. And yet, what was the actual results (in terms of global power).
OH yes, 15 years later, the US won the cold war...
Or did i miss the bit where, having lost the vietnam war, the 2nd civil war broke out, china/russai led the world blah blah

wot bollocks

the USA will be the ruler of the globe for AT LEAST the rest of this century, barring nuclear war etc

[Napoleon Ier]

Gabon, Vietnam is a good example of just how NOT screwed the Americans are. Everyone agrees that it was a disaster for the US. And yet, what was the actual results (in terms of global power).
OH yes, 15 years later, the US won the cold war...
Or did i miss the bit where, having lost the vietnam war, the 2nd civil war broke out, china/russai led the world blah blah

wot bollocks

the USA will be the ruler of the globe for AT LEAST the rest of this century, barring nuclear war etc

Well, the best part of 'Nam is that the US actually won and smashed Charlie to a pulp. Then buggered off and let him recover and do whatever the f*ck he liked.

[Napoleon Ier]

John McSame...hehehe...

No but seriously, America is royally screwed. I almost want Hillary or Obama to become president though, just so that the economy fucks up so bad, the pastry-faced socialist PC fairies can't turn the first black/woman president into their latest false idol.

You know that huge military budget we have? Yeah, that one that is bigger than the next 15 largest military budgets in the world? 3.7% of our total GDP.

You know that huge trade deficit you have? Your public debt which is 64% of your GDP? That your main export is currently little bits of paper? That your economy is meltingdown because you've (again) managed to combine inflation with a recession? That you're going to elect (again) a Jimmy Carter to deal with it (I suppose the actual Jim did so well last time...)?

Not that the rest of the world isn't equally fucked up. And not that I don't still think of the US as the world's greatest nation.

[GabonX]

Gabon, Vietnam is a good example of just how NOT screwed the Americans are. Everyone agrees that it was a disaster for the US. And yet, what was the actual results (in terms of global power).
OH yes, 15 years later, the US won the cold war...
Or did i miss the bit where, having lost the vietnam war, the 2nd civil war broke out, china/russai led the world blah blah

wot bollocks

the USA will be the ruler of the globe for AT LEAST the rest of this century, barring nuclear war etc

Yes, we did win the Cold War but this was despite Vietnam, not because of it. Aside from the protests at home, a big part of the reason we pulled out was because other cold war fronts, notably in Europe, were becoming dangerously thin on the US side. It is well known that the USSR had a huge advantage in terms of their conventional military but that the US had an advantage in terms of automic weaponry which ultimately won out.

What I was referring to when I said that Vietnam was where America went wrong was that this is what caused Americans to lose their patriatism. The distrust that the average American has with his government can be traced back to this period.

[GabonX]

Gabon, Vietnam is a good example of just how NOT screwed the Americans are. Everyone agrees that it was a disaster for the US. And yet, what was the actual results (in terms of global power).
OH yes, 15 years later, the US won the cold war...
Or did i miss the bit where, having lost the vietnam war, the 2nd civil war broke out, china/russai led the world blah blah

wot bollocks

the USA will be the ruler of the globe for AT LEAST the rest of this century, barring nuclear war etc

Well, the best part of 'Nam is that the US actually won and smashed Charlie to a pulp. Then buggered off and let him recover and do whatever the f*ck he liked.

Yeah, wtf is with that?!?

The average person thinks that it was the correct decision but has no idea of what the reprecussions of pulling out were, not only to the South Vietnamese, but also to neighboring countries. All political parties, and essentialy free speach, was banned in South Vietnam and the people who we had pledged to protect became victims of Northern torture, rape , oppression and murder. Not only that, but seeing as how the North Vietnamese didn't have the US to fight anymore they took it upon themselves to invade neighboring Cambodia in 1978 and to subject them to all of these same horrors.

[Napoleon Ier]

Gabon, Vietnam is a good example of just how NOT screwed the Americans are. Everyone agrees that it was a disaster for the US. And yet, what was the actual results (in terms of global power).
OH yes, 15 years later, the US won the cold war...
Or did i miss the bit where, having lost the vietnam war, the 2nd civil war broke out, china/russai led the world blah blah

wot bollocks

the USA will be the ruler of the globe for AT LEAST the rest of this century, barring nuclear war etc

Well, the best part of 'Nam is that the US actually won and smashed Charlie to a pulp. Then buggered off and let him recover and do whatever the f*ck he liked.

Yeah, wtf is with that?!?

The average person thinks that it was the correct decision but has no idea of what the reprecussions of pulling out were, not only to the South Vietnamese, but also to neighboring countries. All political parties, and essentialy free speach, was banned in South Vietnam and the people who we had pledged to protect became victims of Northern torture, rape , oppression and murder. Not only that, but seeing as how the North Vietnamese didn't have the US to fight anymore they took it upon themselves to invade neighboring Cambodia in 1978 and to subject them to all of these same horrors.

1.7 million Cambodians slaughtered and millions more Vietnamese refugees forced from their country and hunted like dogs across the high seas as criminals by Communists...everyone has heard of the isolated incident at My Lai, but who knows about the Hué Massacres and the AVN's other brutal purgings?

Everyone snidely remarks on the embarassing scenes from Saigon Embassy in 1975, but does anyone know about the '73 Peace Accords?

Yet another piece of history twisted to an irrecognisable, fabricated mesh of lies by leftist academia...

[GabonX]

I certainly did not know about those specific incidents. The only reason I even know abouth the Cambodian invasion is because I accidentaly stumbled accross an article on it in my school's archives while doing research for a geography class. It is something of extreme relevance with the debate over pulling out of Iraq and it is NOT being taught in schools.

Ironically the latest Rambo movie may give people a more acurate assessment of the morality of pulling out of Vietnam than most college professors.

[Carebian Knight]

no, thats a lie. The civil rights were black people wanting equal rights that whites recieved. The white people were to snobby to actually even sit near a good willed black man. And then the white women decided to hop on the black freedom express cause they werent strong enough to prevail on their own. In the end, Hillary will be asking her man for advice, cause she wont be strong willed enough to run a country be herself.

Shell hop along the Bill Clinton express which is coming up from adultryvill and saxaphoneland.

Haha now THAT is a lie. Good willed black man? 404 Error, good willed black man not fucking found man. There is no such thing. At least white women had the courage to get a fucking job in ww2 when all the real men were at war, and all the black men were leeching off our economy, kind of like obama. hillary wont need her man for advice, but obama will be talking to his "reverend" about how to persecute america.

Are you serious? There were hundreds of thousands of blacks fighting in WWII, one of the black companies received more medals than any other company in the armed forces.

[SupremeAdmiral]

f*ck Obama! f*ck the whole damn Democratic party! Their all just a bunk of moron pussies who want to make people healthy, but not safe from terrosites!

[Carebian Knight]

I don't actually like Obama, I was just replying to that part of his post.

[Balsiefen]

f*ck Obama! f*ck the whole damn Democratic party! Their all just a bunk of moron pussies who want to make people healthy, but not safe from terrosites!

Wow, you convinced me.

[suggs]

f*ck Obama! f*ck the whole damn Democratic party! Their all just a bunk of moron pussies who want to make people healthy, but not safe from terrosites!

Wow, you convinced me.

Supreme Admiral, Come On Down! You made me smile - as i'm getting older, i've noticed i'm less keen on change (eg this shite new lay out of the forums and WHERE ARE MY SLIPPERS).
But good to see the "YOU@RE TOTAL FUCKING MORON" gene still exists.
WHY WHY WHY would the Democrats want the USA to be "unsafe". Every single fucking politician in the USA is a patriot - along with personal ambition for high office, its one of the things that gets people into politics in the first place.

Sure, i have no doubt that the democrats have a different plan from the Republicans on the defence policy. But no political party wants to see their own country get blown up.

I recomend books, c span and no sharp objects in your immediate environs.