Jews are not a race, but members of a faith.

[Snorri1234]

"Essays on a new concept of racial relations that promotes the continued existence, independence and legitimate rights and interests of all races, providing a preservationist alternative to the racially destructive consequences of multiracialism"

That doesn't sound white supremest to me. Also, they referred to all species as "sub".

Oh I'm sure they don't hate black people, they just want to make sure black people don't breed with whities because that would make humans less diverse....

[the_lion]

don't you think that if they were racially motivated to promote anti antisemitism that they might have Jews listed as a race?

Jews are not a race. They are a sub culture of a race, or many races.

[mr. incrediball]

with the infinite wisdom of this shopping bag, mr. i decrees the following.

1) judaism is a religion.

2) israeli-most of whom are jews-is a race.


'ball out.

[btownmeggy]

with the infinite wisdom of this shopping bag, mr. i decrees the following.

1) judaism is a religion.

2) israeli-most of whom are jews-is a race.


'ball out.

Israeli is a nationality. Israel is a country. Many different "ethnic groups" reside within it. They're all Israelis.

[mr. incrediball]

with the infinite wisdom of this shopping bag, mr. i decrees the following.

1) judaism is a religion.

2) israeli-most of whom are jews-is a race.


'ball out.

Israeli is a nationality. Israel is a country. Many different "ethnic groups" reside within it. They're all Israelis.

ah, but i mean... you know... well, what is a word for people who's family have been in israel for long long time?

[btownmeggy]

with the infinite wisdom of this shopping bag, mr. i decrees the following.

1) judaism is a religion.

2) israeli-most of whom are jews-is a race.


'ball out.

Israeli is a nationality. Israel is a country. Many different "ethnic groups" reside within it. They're all Israelis.

ah, but i mean... you know... well, what is a word for people who's family have been in israel for long long time?

Israeli Arabs?

[Neoteny]

Israeli Arabs?

I was going to say something like this but decided against it. Still ridiculously humorous though.

[mybike_yourface]

See below... Jews aren't listed.


Outline of Human Racial Classification:

SUB-SAHARAN AFRICA GROUP
I. Capoid or Khoisanid Subspecies of southern Africa

A. Khoid (Hottentot) race
B. Sanid (Bushmen) race

II. Congoid Subspecies of sub-Saharan Africa

A. Central Congoid race (Geographic center and origin in the Congo river basin)

1. Palaecongoid subrace (the Congo river basin: Ivory Coast, Ghana, Nigeria, Cameroon, Congo, Angola)
2. Sudanid subrace (western Africa: Niger, Mali, Senegal, Guinea)
3. Nilotid subrace (southern Sudan; the ancient Nubians were of this subrace)
4. Kafrid or Bantid subrace (east and south Africa: Kenya, Tanzania, Mozambique, Natal)

B. Bambutid race (African Pygmies)
C. Aethiopid race (Ethiopia, Somalia; hybridized with Caucasoids)


"OUT-OF-AFRICA" GROUP
I. Caucasoid or Europid Subspecies

A. Mediterranid race

1. West Mediterranean or Iberid subrace (Spain, Portugal, Corsica, Sardinia, and coastal areas of Morocco and Tunisia; the Atlanto-Mediterranean peoples who expanded over much of the Atlantic coastal regions of Europe during the Mesolithic period were a branch of this subrace)
2. East Mediterranean or Pontid subrace (Black Sea coast of Ukraine, Romania and Bulgaria; Aegean coasts of Greece and Turkey)
3. Dinaricized Mediterraneans (Residual mixed types resulting from the blending of Mediterranids with Dinarics, Alpines or Armenids; not a unified type, has much regional variation; predominant element [over 60%] in Sicily and southern Italy, principal element in Turkey [35%], important element in western Syria, Lebanon and central Italy, common in northern Italy. The ancient Cappadocian Mediterranean subrace of Anatolia was dinaricized during the Bronze Age [second millennium B.C.] and is a major contributor to this type in modern Turkey.)
4. South Mediterranean or Saharid subrace (predominant in Algeria and Libya, important in Morocco, Tunisia and Egypt)
5. Orientalid or Arabid subrace (predominant in Arabia, major element from Egypt to Syria, primary in northern Sudan, important in Iraq, predominant element among the Oriental Jews)

B. Dinaric race (predominant in western Balkans [Dinaric Mountains] and northern Italy, important in the Czech Republic, eastern and southern Switzerland, western Austria and eastern Ukraine. Its distribution in Europe, and that of its derived Dinaricized Mediterranean type, may be associated with the expansion of the Neolithic Anatolian farmers beginning circa 6,500 B.C.)
C. Alpine race (predominant element in Luxembourg, primary in Bavaria and Bohemia, important in France, Hungary, eastern and southern Switzerland)
D. Ladogan race (named after Lake Ladoga; indigenous to Russia; includes Lappish subrace of arctic Europe)
E. Nordish or Northern European race (various subraces in the British Isles, Scandinavia, the Netherlands and Belgium; predominant element in Germany, Switzerland, Poland, Finland and the Baltic States; majority in Austria and Russia; minority in France, the Czech Republic, Slovakia and Hungary; outlined in detail in The Nordish Race)
F. Armenid race (predominant element in Armenia, common in Syria, Lebanon and northern Iraq, primary element among the Ashkenazic Jews)
G. Turanid race (partially hybridized with Mongoloids; predominant element in Kazakhstan.; common in Hungary and Turkey)
H. Irano-Afghan race (predominant in Iran and Afghanistan, primary element in Iraq, common [25%] in Turkey)
I. Indic or Nordindid race (Pakistan and northern India)
J. Dravidic race (India, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka [Ceylon]; ancient stabilized Indic-Veddoid [Australoid] blend)

II. Australoid Subspecies

A. Veddoid race (remnant Australoid population in central and southern India)
B. Negritos (remnants in Malaysia and the Philippines)
C. Melanesian race (New Guinea, Papua, Solomon Islands)
D. Australian-Tasmanian race (Australian Aborigines)

III. Mongoloid Subspecies

A. Northeast Asian or Northern Mogoloid race (various subraces in China, Manchuria, Korea and Japan)
B. Southeast Asian or Southern Mongoloid race (various subraces in southwest China, Indochina, Thailand, Myanmar [Burma], Malaysia, Indonesia and the Philippines, the last four partly hybridized with Australoids)
C. Micronesian-Polynesian race (predominantly Southern Mongoloid partly hybridized with Australoids)
D. Ainuid race (remnants of aboriginal population in northern Japan)
E. Tungid race (Mongolia and Siberia, Eskimos)
F. Amerindian race (American Indians; various subraces)

classification of any kind always has 2 camps, lumpers and splitters.
let's not forget we're all the same species, and we've been interbreeding since the begining.

[muy_thaiguy]

with the infinite wisdom of this shopping bag, mr. i decrees the following.

1) judaism is a religion.

2) israeli-most of whom are jews-is a race.


'ball out.

Israeli is a nationality. Israel is a country. Many different "ethnic groups" reside within it. They're all Israelis.

ah, but i mean... you know... well, what is a word for people who's family have been in israel for long long time?

Ancestral Homeland? Either way you look at it, Israelis is a Nationality, not a race. Though, that's about as close to being a race with Jews as you can get. Besides, other then a 3000 year old religion, there aren't many attributes that set them apart from anyone else. Races are separated by physical characteristics (which helps people determine where they come from, or at least their ancestors), and let's face it, other then having dark hair (with the exception of some having red hair, which is a commonality with many people of European decent) there isn't a difference. Besides, many people of European decent also have dark hair. Culture? Their culture depends on where they live, in the US, it'll be our culture, in England, English culture etc. Also Judaism=Jews/Jewish Faith as Catholicism=Roman Catholics/Catholic Faith. Understand now?

[mybike_yourface]

"Essays on a new concept of racial relations that promotes the continued existence, independence and legitimate rights and interests of all races, providing a preservationist alternative to the racially destructive consequences of multiracialism"

That doesn't sound white supremest to me. Also, they referred to all species as "sub".

Oh I'm sure they don't hate black people, they just want to make sure black people don't breed with whities because that would make humans less diverse....

white seperatist, white supremicist, what's the real difference. it's still racism.

[the_lion]

"Essays on a new concept of racial relations that promotes the continued existence, independence and legitimate rights and interests of all races, providing a preservationist alternative to the racially destructive consequences of multiracialism"

That doesn't sound white supremest to me. Also, they referred to all species as "sub".

Oh I'm sure they don't hate black people, they just want to make sure black people don't breed with whities because that would make humans less diverse....

white seperatist, white supremicist, what's the real difference. it's still racism.

I guess someone doesn't have their "sarcasm" radar on.

[mybike_yourface]

who? you?

[El Capitan X]

My opinion on this subject:

Kill all the Jews and this wouldn't be a problem.


Was that a joke?
ECX

[GabonX]

My opinion on this subject:

Kill all the Jews and this wouldn't be a problem.


Was that a joke?
ECX

Good luck with that.

The Eqyptians, Romans, Nazis, etc. (the list goes on) all tried and failed.

The message is clear...

If you mess with God's chosen people you're society stops existing.

[wicked]

ECX, don't even joke about something like that.

[timmytuttut88]

how can something be a race AND a religion.

I mean under race there is:

african american
caucasion
hispanic
asian

AND jew it just doesnt seem to fit under the category

[reminisco]

jesus christ.

have any of you posting such ignorant comments here ever even LEFT your small towns in the bible belt?

come to the east coast. or, f*ck that. go to Malibu CA. try to be observant.

especially of pre- vs. post-rhinoplasty.

[TheProwler]

A quick definition:
http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/society/A0826266.html

Race:
traditionally, descendants of Judah, the fourth son of Jacob, whose tribe, with that of his half brother Benjamin, made up the kingdom of Judah.

Religion:
historically, members of the worldwide community of adherents to Judaism.

This one is some good reading:
http://wsi.matriots.com/What%20is%20a%20Jew.html

Here's a Rabbi that says "both":
http://judaism.about.com/od/orthodoxfaq ... ligion.htm

Here's a Rabbi that says "only religion":
http://en.allexperts.com/q/Conservative ... ligion.htm

I'm not going to get into an argument over this, but I can tell you that I know Jews who are not Jewish.

[TheProwler]

how can something be a race AND a religion.

Arrggg..just after I said I won't get in an argument...but I will only pitch in a thought here...

Sometimes the word can be used to mean a race (or group of people with common ancestral heritage).

Other times the word can be used to mean a religion.

It would be like saying "That TheProwler guy is cool." Sometimes that might mean that I am like The Fonz. Other times that might mean I should put on a coat to warm up. How can something be a personal character trait AND be a temperature?

Some words have two meanings. Jew know?

[btownmeggy]

Race:
traditionally, descendants of Judah, the fourth son of Jacob, whose tribe, with that of his half brother Benjamin, made up the kingdom of Judah.

So the Jewish RACE is descended from imaginary people?

[muy_thaiguy]

Race:
traditionally, descendants of Judah, the fourth son of Jacob, whose tribe, with that of his half brother Benjamin, made up the kingdom of Judah.

So the Jewish RACE is descended from imaginary people?

Don't push it.

[btownmeggy]

Race:
traditionally, descendants of Judah, the fourth son of Jacob, whose tribe, with that of his half brother Benjamin, made up the kingdom of Judah.

So the Jewish RACE is descended from imaginary people?

Don't push it.

Push what, you silly goose? The idea that race is MADE UP? Or the idea that "Judah, Jacob, and Benjamin" are made up?

[El Capitan X]

ECX, don't even joke about something like that.

*GASP* Whatever did I do wrong? I won't be *GASP* banned, will I?


Actually, my previous comment was a little over the edge
ECX

[DangerBoy]

Cyrus the Great, Nebuchadnezzar, Pontius Pilate, Caesar Augustus, and Quirinius. They were all made up too

[greenoaks]

love and kisses to you too norse