soloman [blocked] & risk master2000 [cleared]

[Jock Bomb]

THE FORM:

These are suspected Multis/Secret Alliance (EITHER ONE MAY APPLY)

Suspect users: <soloman & risk master2000>

Game number: numerous games (2 pages, please do a search)

Comments:

Can I ask either of the above 2 players why they play so many games together when they are brothers in (I presume) the same house and internet connection?

This only came to my attention after soloman admitted he was his brother? They may very well be in different houses if so I apologise for wasting your time.

Nobody else if living together is permitted to play on the same connection, what makes you to different?

A simply search under games player shows a 2 page list of your games together?

[Soloman]

1st off JockBomb really how old are you this is crap. You have some type of vendetta against a now 12 yearold get over yourself.

To answer your question sometimes we are at the same house other times not you know we are a fairly close family.

We do play with each other and fight hard against each other giving no quarter I taught Anton(risk master2000) at the same time as my 12 year old son when they were both 7 how to play.

On top of that we have been cleared before here is the link http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... 00+soloman

[lord voldemort]

is risky only 12 wow

[Jock Bomb]

Yeah amazing a 12 year old can be so abusive!

Also as stated in another topic a boyfriend and girlfriend who play here were advised TO NOT PLAY IN THE SAME GAMES!

Incidently STOP pm'ing me! Your brother did that as well and resulted in a report being submitted! If you guys cant win without cheating DON'T PLAY!

[Soloman]

Yeah amazing a 12 year old can be so abusive!

Also as stated in another topic a boyfriend and girlfriend who play here were advised TO NOT PLAY IN THE SAME GAMES!

Incidently STOP pm'ing me! Your brother did that as well and resulted in a report being submitted! If you guys cant win without cheating DON'T PLAY!

Hey Jock you have issues grow up that is all I can say period. I attempted to civilly discuss matters with you but your actions reveal your maturity.

As far as a PM which was only 1, I asked you to do the same thing I am right now get over it. see adults try and resolve matters in private which is why it was sent.

I am sorry my baby brother hurt your feelings, but carrying a vendetta with a 12 year old and now his family is a truly pathetic thing get over it and if you are an adult act like one in this matter...

[risk master2000]

Are you a damn idiot go get a life i can play with soloman whenever i want and if we were cheating i i would only play 1 on 1 games and one account would be ranked like 430 and the other like 1600 you really need to get a life

[TheBro]

Not shocked that a 12 year old is cursing. Personally, I try not to curse, but over the internet I drop the f-bomb waaay more. Not saying I'm 12, I haven't got there yet, but there is no evidence at all that they are multis or cheating. You should find some suspicious games if you really wanted to prove them cheaters, but accusing them and just saying they play a lot of games..... Come on.

[Soloman]

Not shocked that a 12 year old is cursing. Personally, I try not to curse, but over the internet I drop the f-bomb waaay more. Not saying I'm 12, I haven't got there yet, but there is no evidence at all that they are multis or cheating. You should find some suspicious games if you really wanted to prove them cheaters, but accusing them and just saying they play a lot of games..... Come on.

he has issue with my baby brother and has decided that to get back at him he will attack at Him and I playing together.

[TheBro]

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16201

I do not particularly blame him for posting, Jock Bomb has a right to. But you 2 do not look like a multi or look to have a secret alliance, and you have already been cleared.

[Soloman]

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16201

I do not particularly blame him for posting, Jock Bomb has a right to. But you 2 do not look like a multi or look to have a secret alliance, and you have already been cleared.

but for what reason does he have to make this post my brother and I have never played agame together with him.

His only purpose behind this is to try and create problems which I think is wrong and has no right to do.

[GabonX]

He has the 'right' to do it but whether or not anything will come of it is another story. If you guys play in the sam games and attack each other and break up each other's bonuses OR anounce an alliance in the game log you have nothing to worry about. I would personally recomend playing team games to avoid the accusations but if you guys play legit than you're fine.

Everyone gets accused of cheating from time to time. Do no wrong and you have nothing to fear.

[Soloman]

He has the 'right' to do it but whether or not anything will come of it is another story. If you guys play in the sam games and attack each other and break up each other's bonuses OR anounce an alliance in the game log you have nothing to worry about. I would personally recomend playing team games to avoid the accusations but if you guys play legit than you're fine.

Everyone gets accused of cheating from time to time. Do no wrong and you have nothing to fear.

you want an example of how my brother plays with me check this game http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1743531

The little jerk hung us both. My point is what right does he have attacking me in this matter. I have never ever played with JockBomb nor would I after his immature banter and exchanges with Anton aka risk master2000.

I am just completely annoyed by his baseless and unwarranted accusations. I feel they are a retalitory reaction to his own inability to cope with the fact my baby brother through all of his harsh language was right about the guy.

[TheBro]

You may see it as wrong, but CC cannot say he doesn't have the right because it doesn't satisfy you. I doubt anything will come of it though.

[Soloman]

You may see it as wrong, but CC cannot say he doesn't have the right because it doesn't satisfy you. I doubt anything will come of it though.

I think you are missing my point what bothers me is I have never played agame in my life against this guy and his sole motivation is to harrass my baby brother with this.

This has nothing to do with my satisfaction, it has to do with justification for his actions. There is none other then as stated to harrass and an abuse of the process. The whole thing is annoying and unfounded based on the facts.

[Jock Bomb]

Soloman stop moaning like a little baby! There is EVERY justification for this! By your own admission there is. If you have nothing to hide why protest so much?

As expected, like the last complaint, no MOD even looked into the claim so you got off with it again!

Giving an example of ONE game is not justification to be cleared! Unless you enter every game and tell the players you are playing from the same computer/room/house its a secret alliance in my eyes!

As people state, whether anything is even done ..... i doubt it. But if I was you i would read the rules!

[Soloman]

Soloman stop moaning like a little baby! There is EVERY justification for this! By your own admission there is. If you have nothing to hide why protest so much?

As expected, like the last complaint, no MOD even looked into the claim so you got off with it again!

Giving an example of ONE game is not justification to be cleared! Unless you enter every game and tell the players you are playing from the same computer/room/house its a secret alliance in my eyes!

As people state, whether anything is even done ..... i doubt it. But if I was you i would read the rules!

The Only one moaning is you sir. I could fully understand your issue if there was a game that My brother and I had played against you and then after you lost you found that we were brothers. Even then if you really checked our games you see we give no quarter to the other.

But I have never ever Played you JockBomb you have an issue get over yourself. As far as read the rules I have and read other posts here in this forum we are not doing anything wrong, that has been supported over and over.

Also not that it is any of your Business he has a computer at his house he only plays on mine when he visits. So just one last time the fact you have no base for making a accusation is what bothers me.

[Jock Bomb]

I am going to say 1 thing soloman STOP PM'ing ME!

Your brother did it and was warned and I will instigate another ticket to do likewise for you!

I am a fee paying member of this site and do not expect to be harressed through the internal mail system!

Whether or not i was involved I have every right to report it if there may or may not be cheating going on!

As every other brother/sister/partner etc are advised, DO NOT PLAY GAMES TOGETHER!

You DO NOT only play team games, there are single games involved in this also and if I feel I do not want people cheating or potentially cheating that is my call!

PLEASE STOP SENDING ME PM's!

[Soloman]

I am going to say 1 thing soloman STOP PM'ing ME!

Your brother did it and was warned and I will instigate another ticket to do likewise for you!

I am a fee paying member of this site and do not expect to be harressed through the internal mail system!

Whether or not i was involved I have every right to report it if there may or may not be cheating going on!

As every other brother/sister/partner etc are advised, DO NOT PLAY GAMES TOGETHER!

You DO NOT only play team games, there are single games involved in this also and if I feel I do not want people cheating or potentially cheating that is my call!

PLEASE STOP SENDING ME PM's!

From: Soloman
To: Jock Bomb
Posted: 19 Mar 2008 08:28
Subject: I do not care about your reponse!!!
JockBomb,

I am not sure which is worse the fact a grown man has had a feud with my now 12 year old baby brother or the fact that in your patheticness you are dragging me into it. You have no legitimate gripe with me sir and the fact you continue to push is a prime example I am sure of why my brother responded in the manner he did towards you. Keep up with what you are doing because as we have already been cleared before it will go no where. My rage is at your motivations and thus the reason I respond as I have on this matter. I am giving you this message to let you know that what you are doing is tantamount to harrassment and abuse in itself of the system. Further such harrassment will result in me petitioning a complaint against you.

Soloman

[Soloman]

just to further show you do not know what you are talking about here is a link to post refering to Boyfriend girlfriend playing from same computer

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=45658

2 seperate site mods said there is nothing wrong with it in this post and again My brother only occasionally plays from my connection.

You are not a Multi hunter sir, and as far as being a paying site memeber so is my brother I payed for him since he gets far more enjoyement from the site then I do.

You are harrassing and I have attempted to civilly address you. Your sole motivation is to be a nuisance and perhaps garner some attention. Please crawl back into your hole and leave my family be.

[SirSebstar]

Soloman, dispite the fact that Jock Bomb had little reason to start this thread other then spite, Jock Bomb has the right to make a post even though he was not in the game in question.
Compare it witha cheater who uses multiple accounta and plays against only one (other)person at a time, it would be wierd if it was noticed by someone else but he could not make a report about it.

having said the above,dear Jock Bomb, what you are writing about not being allowed to play from the same connection with your brother,( dad, girlfriend, other sentient being,ect) is allowed

Rules
Rule #1: No multiple accounts
Rule #2: No secret alliances
Unwritten Rules
Obviously any gross abuse of the game is forbidden. This includes but is not limited to: throwing games, intentional deadbeating, serial teammate killing, hijacking accounts.

Rules do not specificly meantion that you cannot play with someone from the same household, unless you break either of the aforementioned rules.
It is prob. not a multiple account (he has been cleared for that)
There is likely no secret alliance, nor did you state such.
And to me it does not look like gross abuse either.

Now a report has been made, and I am content so sit and wait around for its conclusion.
Have a nice day y'all

[Soloman]

Soloman, dispite the fact that Jock Bomb had little reason to start this thread other then spite, Jock Bomb has the right to make a post even though he was not in the game in question.
Compare it witha cheater who uses multiple accounta and plays against only one (other)person at a time, it would be wierd if it was noticed by someone else but he could not make a report about it.

having said the above,dear Jock Bomb, what you are writing about not being allowed to play from the same connection with your brother,( dad, girlfriend, other sentient being,ect) is allowed

Rules
Rule #1: No multiple accounts
Rule #2: No secret alliances
Unwritten Rules
Obviously any gross abuse of the game is forbidden. This includes but is not limited to: throwing games, intentional deadbeating, serial teammate killing, hijacking accounts.

Rules do not specificly meantion that you cannot play with someone from the same household, unless you break either of the aforementioned rules.
It is prob. not a multiple account (he has been cleared for that)
There is likely no secret alliance, nor did you state such.
And to me it does not look like gross abuse either.

Now a report has been made, and I am content so sit and wait around for its conclusion.
Have a nice day y'all

I understand what are stating it is just frustrating to have my integrity attacked in this manner. We have been cleared before as is clear n the forum and he is attacking the fact we(my brother and I) have played multiple games of multiple types together.

The fact that he makes this accusation but conveintly fails to point out that neither of us wins a majority over the other in the Risk Master2000 and I play together to me in itseldf is admission of his malintent.

I guess the only thing that keeps me responding is my sense of pride and dignity. I feel as if I say nothing that is conceding do you know what I mean? Thank you for your clarification SirSebstar

[SirSebstar]

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I guess the only thing that keeps me responding is my sense of pride and dignity. I feel as if I say nothing that is conceding do you know what I mean? Thank you for your clarification SirSebstar

No problem. It is a very personal matter how you respond on an accusation like this. My advice is, try to see this without letting it get to you personally. I do not know Jock and I am not sure if you know him. He makes his rant and best is to let it end there. In the end it is very likely you will be vindicated. if so, you can be the moral winner as long as you do not stoop to the level you yourself do not feel confortable with.
I speak from experience that its not always easy to keep your emotional distance. But I try anyways.
Good luck in future games

[Jock Bomb]

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I guess the only thing that keeps me responding is my sense of pride and dignity. I feel as if I say nothing that is conceding do you know what I mean? Thank you for your clarification SirSebstar

No problem. It is a very personal matter how you respond on an accusation like this. My advice is, try to see this without letting it get to you personally. I do not know Jock and I am not sure if you know him. He makes his rant and best is to let it end there. In the end it is very likely you will be vindicated. if so, you can be the moral winner as long as you do not stoop to the level you yourself do not feel confortable with.
I speak from experience that its not always easy to keep your emotional distance. But I try anyways.
Good luck in future games

My rant? I fear there has been no 'rant' on my behalf!

I feel I am old enough and wise enough not to get involved in rants and such childish behaviour

There is NO law against having multiple accounts from the same connection, providing they are separate people and as is normal in the CC rules you do not play in the same solo games, I see no problem there.

But these 2 are playing in solo games together thus having an immediate unfair advantage over other players.

Stop playing solo games, no problems, team games, you can speak secretly to your team in any case!

Thats all I was pointing out, did not warrant PM's etc ....... funny how both brothers resort to threats via PM? Thats if indeed there are 2 brothers? Who knows, who cares, just providing you cease playing solo games from the same connection

Incidentally, the complaint against your brother had nothing to do with soloman but you still saw fit to get involved. Your brother was in the wrong by soloman's on admission. I just have a sense of fair play. This is NOT the first time this subject has been brought up and so long as you play solo games from the same connection it will not be the last time!

As I have said, if you have done nothing that breaches CC rules you have nothing to worry about and I will apologise. But I see 2 players on the same connection in a solo game as a breach of these rules or at least an unfair advantage.

[Soloman]

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I guess the only thing that keeps me responding is my sense of pride and dignity. I feel as if I say nothing that is conceding do you know what I mean? Thank you for your clarification SirSebstar

No problem. It is a very personal matter how you respond on an accusation like this. My advice is, try to see this without letting it get to you personally. I do not know Jock and I am not sure if you know him. He makes his rant and best is to let it end there. In the end it is very likely you will be vindicated. if so, you can be the moral winner as long as you do not stoop to the level you yourself do not feel confortable with.
I speak from experience that its not always easy to keep your emotional distance. But I try anyways.
Good luck in future games

My rant? I fear there has been no 'rant' on my behalf!

I feel I am old enough and wise enough not to get involved in rants and such childish behaviour

There is NO law against having multiple accounts from the same connection, providing they are separate people and as is normal in the CC rules you do not play in the same solo games, I see no problem there.

But these 2 are playing in solo games together thus having an immediate unfair advantage over other players.

Stop playing solo games, no problems, team games, you can speak secretly to your team in any case!

Thats all I was pointing out, did not warrant PM's etc ....... funny how both brothers resort to threats via PM? Thats if indeed there are 2 brothers? Who knows, who cares, just providing you cease playing solo games from the same connection

Incidentally, the complaint against your brother had nothing to do with soloman but you still saw fit to get involved. Your brother was in the wrong by soloman's on admission. I just have a sense of fair play. This is NOT the first time this subject has been brought up and so long as you play solo games from the same connection it will not be the last time!

Unless you have gained the power of a Mod we will not stop playing together. It is funny you continue to ignore precedence and the facts. I highly doubt you are old enough to know the difference between right and wrong much less a rant.

You are most likely within the same age range as he otherwise none of this childishness makes sense. If you are truly an adult go seek counselling and therapy Guy You got issues.

[Jock Bomb]

Soloman at 41 I am sure I am old enough!

Less of the abuse and cheap digs, let the MOD's sort it, if you have nothing constructive to say .... DON'T!