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Postby nesterdude on Fri Feb 15, 2008 7:06 am

firstholliday wrote:PATIENCE!!!! :evil:

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Postby firstholliday on Sat Feb 16, 2008 6:44 am

Hmm we were on page 3.

This is to get us up again.



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Postby AndrewB on Sat Feb 16, 2008 1:33 pm

They made pages smaller, that is why we keep on bumping down...
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Postby AndrewB on Mon Feb 18, 2008 3:35 pm

I will be starting next round this Wednesday or Thursday.
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Postby firstholliday on Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:18 pm

page 2 again...

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Postby firstholliday on Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:11 am

It's lonely in here...

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Postby Katya on Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:11 pm

still did not start... :(
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Postby AndrewB on Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:42 pm

Starting new round today. Just bare with me.
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Postby fishydance on Wed Feb 20, 2008 5:18 pm

AndrewB wrote:Starting new round today. Just bare with me.


How did you calculate the 'prev' values in Round 2? Our team is showing zero, and I'm just wondering why. Thanks!
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Re: Captain+ 2008 Winter Doubles League - ROUND 2 Started

Postby AndrewB on Wed Feb 20, 2008 5:28 pm

Read first page carefully:

AndrewB wrote:Points Transfer
1. The 50% of points difference will be transfered to the next round.
Example: Let say you got 8 MP in your group. And the lowest qualifying team amongst all groups got 5 MP. So you get 1.5=(8-5)*50% MP transfered to the next round.
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Re: Captain+ 2008 Winter Doubles League - ROUND 2 Started

Postby fishydance on Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:36 pm

AndrewB wrote:Read first page carefully:

AndrewB wrote:Points Transfer
1. The 50% of points difference will be transfered to the next round.
Example: Let say you got 8 MP in your group. And the lowest qualifying team amongst all groups got 5 MP. So you get 1.5=(8-5)*50% MP transfered to the next round.


Thanks Andy, I should have read the rules more carefully before posting! I'm not a mathmetician, but I don't see how we ended up with 0 carried forward, when we had 4.2 MP in round 1. On the other hand, at least we can't go down can we? :lol:
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Postby AndrewB on Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:09 pm

Np, Fishydance ;)

You got 0 points, because your result (4.2) was the lowest cut-off. Noone else who proceeded to the next round had less points then you did.

Therefore you got 0 points to transfer.
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Postby firstholliday on Thu Feb 21, 2008 3:36 pm

Question.

Why are we in the same poule as you again?
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Postby AndrewB on Thu Feb 21, 2008 8:52 pm

LOL, Does it mean that someone is afraid, huh? ;)

Well, it is kind of complicated, but is defined in the regulations:

AndrewB wrote:7. Groups will be assigned by previous round results and team rating. (First team will play with last).


So, in order to define new groups I did the following:

Sorted the teams by the MPs first, then by rating.

After that assigned numbers 1 2 3 4 4 3 2 1 against each team from top to bottom. That gave me the new groups. (1/2/3/4)

Hope it all makes sense...
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Postby firstholliday on Fri Feb 22, 2008 6:10 am

AndrewB wrote:LOL, Does it mean that someone is afraid, huh? ;)

Well, it is kind of complicated, but is defined in the regulations:

AndrewB wrote:7. Groups will be assigned by previous round results and team rating. (First team will play with last).


So, in order to define new groups I did the following:

Sorted the teams by the MPs first, then by rating.

After that assigned numbers 1 2 3 4 4 3 2 1 against each team from top to bottom. That gave me the new groups. (1/2/3/4)

Hope it all makes sense...



very affraid...
+ the difference you took with you from the previous round doesn't makes it easier.

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Postby AndrewB on Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:06 pm

Sorry mate, but it will become progressively more difficult with any new round anyhow. You just have to play your best, mate ;)

And don't tell me, that you have not been warned about the points transfer. It was were ever since I posted the tournament.
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Postby AndrewB on Fri Feb 22, 2008 3:11 pm

We have an another drop-off: Mike Doherty :(

Looking for a partner for Frop now...
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Postby michiganfan22 on Fri Feb 22, 2008 9:02 pm

thats why that game hasnt started, lol.
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Postby firstholliday on Sat Feb 23, 2008 3:31 pm

[quote="AndrewB"]Sorry mate, but it will become progressively more difficult with any new round anyhow. You just have to play your best, mate ;)

And don't tell me, that you have not been warned about the points transfer.




i know....
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Postby firstholliday on Sat Feb 23, 2008 3:32 pm

AndrewB wrote:We have an another drop-off: Mike Doherty :(

Looking for a partner for Frop now...




hmmm i'll play. :D :D
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Postby Blitzaholic on Sat Feb 23, 2008 3:48 pm

AndrewB wrote:We have an another drop-off: Mike Doherty :(

Looking for a partner for Frop now...


good grief :roll: how many players quitting on you in this neo? does that make 10 total now?


I am finishing the tourney out, but if things like this continue, i doubt i will join the next one, so frustrating

so, if no one replaces him, does his team just cancel all games?

or from now on if any members quit, there team gets penalized, not sure why so many start something then quit, any way you can make a stiff rule to prevent this neo? or if you make tounreys in the future, can the main team, state or post a sub in advance so we dont have to keep dragging this out and waiting?
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Postby firstholliday on Sat Feb 23, 2008 4:24 pm

Blitzaholic wrote:
AndrewB wrote:We have an another drop-off: Mike Doherty :(

Looking for a partner for Frop now...


good grief :roll: how many players quitting on you in this neo? does that make 10 total now?


I am finishing the tourney out, but if things like this continue, i doubt i will join the next one, so frustrating

so, if no one replaces him, does his team just cancel all games?

or from now on if any members quit, there team gets penalized, not sure why so many start something then quit, any way you can make a stiff rule to prevent this neo? or if you make tounreys in the future, can the main team, state or post a sub in advance so we dont have to keep dragging this out and waiting?




We can continue... Frop just found another partner. Surfingmace will join.
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Postby AndrewB on Sat Feb 23, 2008 8:15 pm

Blitzaholic wrote:
AndrewB wrote:We have an another drop-off: Mike Doherty :(

Looking for a partner for Frop now...


good grief :roll: how many players quitting on you in this neo? does that make 10 total now?


I am finishing the tourney out, but if things like this continue, i doubt i will join the next one, so frustrating

so, if no one replaces him, does his team just cancel all games?

or from now on if any members quit, there team gets penalized, not sure why so many start something then quit, any way you can make a stiff rule to prevent this neo? or if you make tounreys in the future, can the main team, state or post a sub in advance so we dont have to keep dragging this out and waiting?


I hope that you don't mean that I am doing my job bad.

Unfortunately in any tournaments there are drop offs. Especially in the size of 100 people when we started. So having 10 people drop-off makes it 10% of the original players.

Anyhow, the replacement was found, furthermore, it was found within the given timeframe. So you didn't wait any longer, then expected. Most of the replacements were done in the timely manner. So I am not sure where this frustration is coming from...
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Postby Blitzaholic on Sat Feb 23, 2008 8:21 pm

firstholliday wrote:
Blitzaholic wrote:
AndrewB wrote:We have an another drop-off: Mike Doherty :(

Looking for a partner for Frop now...


good grief :roll: how many players quitting on you in this neo? does that make 10 total now?


I am finishing the tourney out, but if things like this continue, i doubt i will join the next one, so frustrating

so, if no one replaces him, does his team just cancel all games?

or from now on if any members quit, there team gets penalized, not sure why so many start something then quit, any way you can make a stiff rule to prevent this neo? or if you make tounreys in the future, can the main team, state or post a sub in advance so we dont have to keep dragging this out and waiting?




We can continue... Frop just found another partner. Surfingmace will join.


ok, ty 1st holiday, frop and surfing


this is a super tournament and neo does hard work and bothers me that many sign up for this and 10 or so quit was all, glad to see he joined
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Postby Genghis Khan CA on Sat Feb 23, 2008 8:28 pm

AndrewB wrote:I hope that you don't mean that I am doing my job bad.

Unfortunately in any tournaments there are drop offs. Especially in the size of 100 people when we started. So having 10 people drop-off makes it 10% of the original players.

Anyhow, the replacement was found, furthermore, it was found within the given timeframe. So you didn't wait any longer, then expected. Most of the replacements were done in the timely manner. So I am not sure where this frustration is coming from...


I'm sure he doesn't andrew... nothing you can do about people dropping out.

Blitz - I know it's frustrating, but I think it's always going to be a fact of life in a long-running tournament that players drop out, not much anyone can do about it - penalising is an option although that punishes the remaining partner more than the drop-out, and might encourage both partners to drop out rather than just one.

So long as replacements are organised in a timely fashion, the impact should hopefully be fairly minimal on the remaining players. Andrew seems to be doing a good job of making sure this is taken care of :)
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