das_masta and lothian [Cleared of Multi]

[Zandar]

These are suspected Multis/Secret Alliance (probably the latter, and are friends, but who knows)

Suspect users: das_masta and lothian

Game number: http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=69398

Comments: The game chat and attacks speak for themselves. Both players just joined today, and happened to find this game. They did not attack eachothers' continents, even when 1's were on the borders. More detailed info on Blue's massive 'comeback' in the game chat.

- Zandar

[AndyDufresne]

das_masta and lothian are CLEARED of being multiple accounts. Feel free to leave feedback regarding the alliance part.


--Andy

[Zandar]

What kind of things? Game happenings, chat, etc...?

[Zandar]

2006-09-13 19:23:41 - Lothian: is this gonna turn real time?
2006-09-13 19:24:32 - Zandar: I can be around for a while.
2006-09-13 19:25:53 - das_masta: ill stay for the game
2006-09-13 19:28:18 - Lothian: i got half an hour
2006-09-13 19:29:15 - Zandar: game will be over in 10 minutes
2006-09-13 19:29:53 - das_masta: im owning the east lol
2006-09-13 19:30:27 - Zandar: blue, if you wanna gang up on this guy for a while, I'm up for it.

(Red was nearing 70 armies with close to 30 territories, and the entire East and North in the 4th or 5th round. What would he get, 17+9 = 26 armies per turn?

I had 18 armies and B.C., and Blue had 20-some armies and Praries)

2006-09-13 19:30:39 - Lothian: red will probaly win hes got more territories then me and green combined
2006-09-13 19:30:58 - das_masta: lol =p
2006-09-13 19:33:56 - Lothian: suprise (when he cashes a blue set and gets 18 armies on his turn)
2006-09-13 19:35:23 - das_masta: that isnt good
2006-09-13 19:35:40 - Zandar: attacking me sure was a good call.
2006-09-13 19:35:48 - das_masta: i had like 27 forifies lol
2006-09-13 19:36:04 - Lothian: just realized he had all those armies sorry (AFTER he was talking about how well Red was doing)
2006-09-13 19:36:12 - das_masta: hahaha
2006-09-13 19:36:38 - Zandar: or you're friends and have an unannounced alliance.
2006-09-13 19:39:56 - Lothian: no we dont have an alliance i just didi expect you to fall so quickly in the east (When I started with 2 territories on that side of the board)

2006-09-13 19:40:18 - Lothian: green it might be a good idea if me and you got an alliance what do you think

^^^ (AFTER I already hinted at this 10 minutes ago and it went unanswered. By now he has put all of his new armies next to me on Edmonton, and has taken P. George. There was a 5 on Kenora, and #s less than 10 on the two purple countries that border the yellow area.)

Fast-Forward: 2006-09-13 19:57:53 - Lothian: i couldnt attack him he was to strong i attacked you and used you cards to get myself back in the game (I had 2 Green Cards and probably 15 armies left... after I had attacked Red with any available armies. By this time, Blue was still doubled up territories and Armies.)

So I get knocked out in the 5th or 6th round, and at this point I figure it's just 2 friends playing. I believe they're cheaters also because of how friendly they are in chat, how they both can't play risk at home, and how they happened to join on the same day and join the same game.

Also worth noting is Blue attacked Red only a couple of times, and he did not attack Red even when Red had a buch of 1s littering all of the blue/red borders throughout the game (with entire continents occupied).

If this isn't a secret alliance, I don't know what is, or how it can ever be proven without a confession.

AND

I don't care about ranking points, and I've lot a ton of games without a problem or accusing people of cheating.

[Zandar]

sorry about the bump, but it looks like this was buried.

[AndyDufresne]

You don't need to bump it, it's already been ruled on.


--Andy

[Corky]

i know lothian in real life hes a good guy and a great player.
number one attacking red thorugh you was a good idea he got armies and took away red continent adavantages
number twojust because two people are alike and happen to be in the same game doesnt make them cheaters
number three i saw this game played and it was a close game until you wasted you armies on a small continent while red snapped up territories in the east you fault not lothians

[strike wolf]

why the heck did this get bumped again?

[Zandar]

i know lothian in real life hes a good guy and a great player.
number one attacking red thorugh you was a good idea he got armies and took away red continent adavantages
number twojust because two people are alike and happen to be in the same game doesnt make them cheaters
number three i saw this game played and it was a close game until you wasted you armies on a small continent while red snapped up territories in the east you fault not lothians

For the record, I don't care if you know him. It doesn't mean anything.

Also, I don't care to debate with you because you have no idea what you're talking about. You didn't 'watch' the game; you're blindly defending your 'friend'.

So... thanks for chiming in!