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Abortion Right or wrong?

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Postby Sammy gags on Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:40 pm

who created us? life started out as something like a germ in a growing environment, then with water, the building block of life & the miracle of symettry a functioning lifeform was created & adapted to its environment. I know u grew up learning that some supernatural being created us & i dont expect u 2 believe wut i just said because ppl r stubborn & dont want 2 change their ways, just remember that i used 2 believe in god too, but if the human mind is able 2 question our existence, then y cant it question gods? wen really our existence can just have been a law like gravity. I just wonder how u can accept god's existence from him just being there but not ours
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Postby foutballfreek15 on Tue Sep 12, 2006 4:12 pm

See now your being stubborn for saying God doesnt exist. Life cant start from non life so how did life start? Lets see God!
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Postby Backglass on Tue Sep 12, 2006 5:31 pm

foutballfreek15 wrote:Life cant start from non life


Why not? Just because we dont understand it doesnt mean it can't happen. We once didnt understand fire, the weather or why the stars moved...it was "god" doing it.

Now we know better.
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Postby Sammy gags on Tue Sep 12, 2006 6:08 pm

foutballfreek15 wrote:See now your being stubborn for saying God doesnt exist. Life cant start from non life so how did life start? Lets see God!

didnt u read my comment? if u can ask how did we come 2 exist, y dont u answer the question how did god come 2 exist, & dont say that he was just there cuz that would just be contradicting urself on how we were created
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Postby foutballfreek15 on Tue Sep 12, 2006 8:32 pm

God is the almighty he has been there forever. He takes no shape or form and 1,000,000 years is just a second to him!
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Postby Sammy gags on Tue Sep 12, 2006 8:48 pm

& how do u know? u sound like u r just inventing a pokemon or something :roll:
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Postby slash1890 on Tue Sep 12, 2006 9:01 pm

Who created God then?

If life cannot come from non-life, then how does anything exist at all?

"Oh, God created it all!"- No. That contridicts itself, because if you say God has been always there, when using the same logic we can say the universe has always been there.
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Postby Sammy gags on Tue Sep 12, 2006 9:04 pm

good job explaining it slash, apparently they dont understand it wen i explain it
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Postby foutballfreek15 on Tue Sep 12, 2006 9:27 pm

No because God created the universe he has always been and shall always be.
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Postby slash1890 on Tue Sep 12, 2006 9:54 pm

foutballfreek15 wrote:No because God created the universe he has always been and shall always be.


You're just restating what you said before my post. Please go read it, lest you look like an ignorant moron.
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Postby vtmarik on Wed Sep 13, 2006 1:19 am

God was created by Man and then his origin was retconned by The Bible, it's like what the Crisis on Infinite Earths did to the DC Universe.
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Postby jay_a2j on Wed Sep 13, 2006 2:02 am

slash1890 wrote:Who created God then?

If life cannot come from non-life, then how does anything exist at all?

"Oh, God created it all!"- No. That contridicts itself, because if you say God has been always there, when using the same logic we can say the universe has always been there.



The problem with that is.... how does the "Universe" have the power to create?
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Postby heavycola on Wed Sep 13, 2006 2:51 am

As i wrote elsewhere...

It has been postulated by some Very Clever People that the universe contains within itself the necessary means for its own existence and "creation" - not sure if that word is appropriate. Just because you don't understand it Jay doesn't mean it didn't happen.
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Postby jay_a2j on Wed Sep 13, 2006 10:09 am

heavycola wrote:As i wrote elsewhere...

It has been postulated by some Very Clever People that the universe contains within itself the necessary means for its own existence




Yeah, no kidding! GOD.
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Postby heavycola on Wed Sep 13, 2006 10:20 am

jay_a2j wrote:
heavycola wrote:As i wrote elsewhere...

It has been postulated by some Very Clever People that the universe contains within itself the necessary means for its own existence




Yeah, no kidding! GOD.


er...no. If god is eternal he must exist outside the universe. As that liberal heathen Einstein discovered, space and time are inextricably linked. Time can have nothing to do with the eternal.

Setting the laws of physics aside, if he created it he must have started outside it. Stephen Hawking- a cleverer man than you or I - has, as i said, theorised that the universe contains WITHIN ITSELF the explanation and cause for its own existence.
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Postby foutballfreek15 on Wed Sep 13, 2006 4:26 pm

Stepehen Hawking is know Einstein. If the universe created it self, i "read this in national geographic" then it eventually deterates so it shrinks back to a pebble. IT then does the BIg Bang all over again. That means if u believe in science that people identical to us did the same things were doing now except 25 trilllion years ago.
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Postby Sammy gags on Wed Sep 13, 2006 5:23 pm

the universe is nothing, it is just empty space, wut would be there if there wasnt nothing?
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Postby vtmarik on Wed Sep 13, 2006 6:09 pm

Sammy gags wrote:the universe is nothing, it is just empty space, wut would be there if there wasnt nothing?


What?
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Postby reverend_kyle on Wed Sep 13, 2006 6:11 pm

I want to make a buffet with purely egg products and call it an "all the abortion you can eat buffet"
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Postby vtmarik on Wed Sep 13, 2006 6:14 pm

reverend_kyle wrote:I want to make a buffet with purely egg products and call it an "all the abortion you can eat buffet"


HAHAHA!!!

Now that's funny!
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Postby Sammy gags on Wed Sep 13, 2006 6:16 pm

vtmarik wrote:
Sammy gags wrote:the universe is nothing, it is just empty space, wut would be there if there wasnt nothing?


What?

that universe wasnt wasnt created because it is nothing, no atmosphere, no air, just nothing. So how can u say that god exists because something had 2 make the universe
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Postby vtmarik on Wed Sep 13, 2006 10:24 pm

Sammy gags wrote:
vtmarik wrote:
Sammy gags wrote:the universe is nothing, it is just empty space, wut would be there if there wasnt nothing?


What?

that universe wasnt wasnt created because it is nothing, no atmosphere, no air, just nothing. So how can u say that god exists because something had 2 make the universe


I'm still having trouble comprehending your linguistics (or lack thereof). Are you saying that God didn't create the universe, or that He did?
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Postby Sammy gags on Thu Sep 14, 2006 4:34 pm

im saying that the universe is impossible 2 create, because all it is is a bunch of random atoms that float around in a void, & then the laws of physics made what there is today...& dont say that god created the laws of phyics :roll:
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Postby P Gizzle on Thu Sep 14, 2006 5:15 pm

Sammy gags wrote:im saying that the universe is impossible 2 create, because all it is is a bunch of random atoms that float around in a void, & then the laws of physics made what there is today...& dont say that god created the laws of phyics :roll:

what i dont get is if there isn't a god, then how did the universe start. there has to be something out there with the ability to create the universe. Science didnt just create it
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Postby foutballfreek15 on Thu Sep 14, 2006 5:51 pm

Thats what i've been trying to say how did the stuff get there to create the big bang? DOn't say that it was just there cause that would be your argument against me, now wouldn't it?
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