Evolution vs Creation-Comparing each View

unriggable · Post by **unriggable** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 1:51 pm

Chris7He wrote:
Neoteny wrote:
AlgyTaylor wrote:
Carebian Knight wrote:How many evolutionists here have read the Bible?
I have.

So anyway, have any of the creationists have read The Origin Of Species?
I'm going to be honest: reading Darwin was almost as painful as reading the Bible. I couldn't finish Origin or the Bible, but they were painful for completely different reasons. One was due to the Victorian writing style, the other was due to... well... a lot of things.
Elaborate on that.

Anything mildly considered to be an innuendo is not permitted under that writing style. Sex was probably more taboo under Victorian rule than any other society I can think of.

unriggable · Post by **unriggable** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 1:51 pm

AlgyTaylor wrote:
Backglass wrote:
Carebian Knight wrote:How many evolutionists here have read the Bible?
I have read Mother Goose and Grimm's Fairy Tales. I should at least get 1/2 credit.

I certainly hope you're not suggesting that the bible is little more than a fairy story used to teach morality to the less mentally capable members of society

I'd put it on par with Aesop's fables. (not sarcasm)

Chris7He · Post by **Chris7He** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:01 pm

unriggable wrote:
Chris7He wrote:
Neoteny wrote:
AlgyTaylor wrote:
Carebian Knight wrote:How many evolutionists here have read the Bible?
I have.

So anyway, have any of the creationists have read The Origin Of Species?
I'm going to be honest: reading Darwin was almost as painful as reading the Bible. I couldn't finish Origin or the Bible, but they were painful for completely different reasons. One was due to the Victorian writing style, the other was due to... well... a lot of things.
Elaborate on that.
Anything mildly considered to be an innuendo is not permitted under that writing style. Sex was probably more taboo under Victorian rule than any other society I can think of.

I believe in legal prostitution, but with constant STD testing. Statistics show that perverts that can express themselves with pornography and prostitutes are less likely to commit sex crimes.

Frigidus · Post by **Frigidus** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:03 pm

Chris7He wrote:
unriggable wrote:
Chris7He wrote:
Neoteny wrote:
AlgyTaylor wrote:
Carebian Knight wrote:How many evolutionists here have read the Bible?
I have.

So anyway, have any of the creationists have read The Origin Of Species?
I'm going to be honest: reading Darwin was almost as painful as reading the Bible. I couldn't finish Origin or the Bible, but they were painful for completely different reasons. One was due to the Victorian writing style, the other was due to... well... a lot of things.
Elaborate on that.
Anything mildly considered to be an innuendo is not permitted under that writing style. Sex was probably more taboo under Victorian rule than any other society I can think of.
I believe in legal prostitution, but with constant STD testing. Statistics show that perverts that can express themselves with pornography and prostitutes are less likely to commit sex crimes.

You never fail to make me laugh.

unriggable · Post by **unriggable** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:48 pm

Chris7He wrote:
unriggable wrote:
Chris7He wrote:
Neoteny wrote:
AlgyTaylor wrote:
Carebian Knight wrote:How many evolutionists here have read the Bible?
I have.

So anyway, have any of the creationists have read The Origin Of Species?
I'm going to be honest: reading Darwin was almost as painful as reading the Bible. I couldn't finish Origin or the Bible, but they were painful for completely different reasons. One was due to the Victorian writing style, the other was due to... well... a lot of things.
Elaborate on that.
Anything mildly considered to be an innuendo is not permitted under that writing style. Sex was probably more taboo under Victorian rule than any other society I can think of.
I believe in legal prostitution, but with constant STD testing. Statistics show that perverts that can express themselves with pornography and prostitutes are less likely to commit sex crimes.

Question: So the f*ck what?

Bavarian Raven · Post by **Bavarian Raven** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 8:36 pm

back on track, i have Read the Bible...something about "know your land, know your enemy". As i have read "Origin of species". I go with evolution. Because it has scientific backing that can be seen in the everyday world. Creationists. show your evidence!

"Try us with your questions wanderers. Let the game begin!"
(guess who wrote that!)

another thing...i know off topic but what will happen if we oneday meet an alien race (which everyone creationist will obviously disagree with what i am about to write) who are more advanced then us and tell us something to the such "Earth? That was one of our genetic testing grounds. I can't believed you guys lived! Would you look at that..." Or something of the such that basically states religion was never anything more then a fad. what then?

Carebian Knight · Post by **Carebian Knight** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 6:34 am

Bavarian Raven wrote:back on track, i have Read the Bible...something about "know your land, know your enemy". As i have read "Origin of species". I go with evolution. Because it has scientific backing that can be seen in the everyday world. Creationists. show your evidence!

"Try us with your questions wanderers. Let the game begin!"
(guess who wrote that!)

another thing...i know off topic but what will happen if we oneday meet an alien race (which everyone creationist will obviously disagree with what i am about to write) who are more advanced then us and tell us something to the such "Earth? That was one of our genetic testing grounds. I can't believed you guys lived! Would you look at that..." Or something of the such that basically states religion was never anything more then a fad. what then?

Ok, turn it around a bit, what if a more advanced alien species makes contact with us and tells us that they have actual proof that God exists and made everything in the universe just the way it is and that inter-species evolution is nothing more than a fad. What then?

unriggable · Post by **unriggable** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 6:44 am

Carebian Knight wrote:
Bavarian Raven wrote:back on track, i have Read the Bible...something about "know your land, know your enemy". As i have read "Origin of species". I go with evolution. Because it has scientific backing that can be seen in the everyday world. Creationists. show your evidence!

"Try us with your questions wanderers. Let the game begin!"
(guess who wrote that!)

another thing...i know off topic but what will happen if we oneday meet an alien race (which everyone creationist will obviously disagree with what i am about to write) who are more advanced then us and tell us something to the such "Earth? That was one of our genetic testing grounds. I can't believed you guys lived! Would you look at that..." Or something of the such that basically states religion was never anything more then a fad. what then?
Ok, turn it around a bit, what if a more advanced alien species makes contact with us and tells us that they have actual proof that God exists and made everything in the universe just the way it is and that inter-species evolution is nothing more than a fad. What then?

Keep dreaming. I know what you're saying is a metaphor for jesus, no he's not coming back (and if he is there's a good family guy clip about it).

AlgyTaylor · Post by **AlgyTaylor** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 7:11 am

Carebian Knight wrote:Ok, turn it around a bit, what if a more advanced alien species makes contact with us and tells us that they have actual proof that God exists and made everything in the universe just the way it is and that inter-species evolution is nothing more than a fad. What then?

If there was actual proof then science would adapt to fit the new found facts regardless of the situation.

That's the difference between science and religion, really. Science takes the facts and creates the theory to fit them. Religion makes theories then creates the facts to fit them.

Neutrino · Post by **Neutrino** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 7:43 am

Carebian Knight wrote:
Ok, turn it around a bit, what if a more advanced alien species makes contact with us and tells us that they have actual proof that God exists and made everything in the universe just the way it is and that inter-species evolution is nothing more than a fad. What then?

Then a good bit of Christianity dies with it.
Christianity is based off the idea that humanity is the one and only sentient species; God likes us the best. Actual evidence of aliens would render this quite major foundation of the religion obsolete.

Carebian Knight · Post by **Carebian Knight** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:06 pm

Neutrino wrote:
Carebian Knight wrote:
Ok, turn it around a bit, what if a more advanced alien species makes contact with us and tells us that they have actual proof that God exists and made everything in the universe just the way it is and that inter-species evolution is nothing more than a fad. What then?
Then a good bit of Christianity dies with it.
Christianity is based off the idea that humanity is the one and only sentient species; God likes us the best. Actual evidence of aliens would render this quite major foundation of the religion obsolete.

I don't remember anywhere hearing that Christians thought we were the only sentient beings in the universe, on Earth yes, but I've never heard that we are the only sentient beings in the universe.

Carebian Knight · Post by **Carebian Knight** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:07 pm

unriggable wrote:
Carebian Knight wrote:
Bavarian Raven wrote:back on track, i have Read the Bible...something about "know your land, know your enemy". As i have read "Origin of species". I go with evolution. Because it has scientific backing that can be seen in the everyday world. Creationists. show your evidence!

"Try us with your questions wanderers. Let the game begin!"
(guess who wrote that!)

another thing...i know off topic but what will happen if we oneday meet an alien race (which everyone creationist will obviously disagree with what i am about to write) who are more advanced then us and tell us something to the such "Earth? That was one of our genetic testing grounds. I can't believed you guys lived! Would you look at that..." Or something of the such that basically states religion was never anything more then a fad. what then?
Ok, turn it around a bit, what if a more advanced alien species makes contact with us and tells us that they have actual proof that God exists and made everything in the universe just the way it is and that inter-species evolution is nothing more than a fad. What then?
Keep dreaming. I know what you're saying is a metaphor for jesus, no he's not coming back (and if he is there's a good family guy clip about it).

Actually I wasn't making a metaphor to Jesus, but if that's what works for you then whatever.

MeDeFe · Post by **MeDeFe** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:03 am

Carebian Knight wrote:
Neutrino wrote:
Carebian Knight wrote:Ok, turn it around a bit, what if a more advanced alien species makes contact with us and tells us that they have actual proof that God exists and made everything in the universe just the way it is and that inter-species evolution is nothing more than a fad. What then?
Then a good bit of Christianity dies with it.
Christianity is based off the idea that humanity is the one and only sentient species; God likes us the best. Actual evidence of aliens would render this quite major foundation of the religion obsolete.
I don't remember anywhere hearing that Christians thought we were the only sentient beings in the universe, on Earth yes, but I've never heard that we are the only sentient beings in the universe.

Isn't there a part about (hu)man being made in gods image (probably spiritually as well) and taking care of the day-to-day bureaucracy like giving names to all the other stuff that was created and such?
Any other sentient species would thoroughly upset the idea of humanity being the crown of creation, especially if this species were to be more advanced than we.

Carebian Knight · Post by **Carebian Knight** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:03 pm

Maybe they evolved

ParadiceCity9 · Post by **ParadiceCity9** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:04 pm

Carebian Knight wrote:Maybe they evolved

unriggable · Post by **unriggable** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:25 pm

Carebian Knight wrote:Maybe they evolved

Who? The aliens?

Bavarian Raven · Post by **Bavarian Raven** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:15 am

Posted: 05 Jan 2008 04:25 Post subject:
Carebian Knight wrote:
Maybe they evolved

Who? The aliens?

everyone has to evolve somewhere...

Neutrino · Post by **Neutrino** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:31 am

Carebian Knight wrote:Maybe they evolved

So... despite the many claims that Evolution is total bunk; didn't happen and never will happen, these hypothetical aliens managed the entire process in under 6000 years flat.
Crazy inconsistent arguments much?

AlgyTaylor · Post by **AlgyTaylor** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 7:08 am

Neutrino wrote:
Carebian Knight wrote:Maybe they evolved
So... despite the many claims that Evolution is total bunk; didn't happen and never will happen, these hypothetical aliens managed the entire process in under 6000 years flat.
Crazy inconsistent arguments much?

No, no, no!

Evolution exists when it supports a religious viewpoint. When it (more often than not) doesn't support it, evolution's rubbish and doesn't really happen.

See if evolution actually supported God's existance then these religious extremists would do nothing but bang on about it. It's only because it doesn't support their beliefs that it's "bad" science. M'kay?

brooksieb · Post by **brooksieb** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 10:29 am

GOD CREATED THE ANIMALS THEN GOD MADE EM EVOLVE

and yes i am christian, i am high church of england (which is closer to catholicism then anything else)

and the world was made probably about 6 billion yrs ago tho the bible say 6000yrs ago (maybe the guy writing it made a mistake = ) ) why not everyone can!

Backglass · Post by **Backglass** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:17 pm

brooksieb wrote:(maybe the guy writing it made a mistake = ) ) why not everyone can!

And maybe the whole thing is fiction. "why not everyone can!" indeed.

unriggable · Post by **unriggable** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:51 pm

brooksieb wrote:GOD CREATED THE ANIMALS THEN GOD MADE EM EVOLVE

and yes i am christian, i am high church of england (which is closer to catholicism then anything else)

and the world was made probably about 6 billion yrs ago tho the bible say 6000yrs ago (maybe the guy writing it made a mistake = ) ) why not everyone can!

Actually the earth is 4.5 byo. I don't really see how you can funk that up. Not to mention that Genesis was written supposedly soon after the actual occurrence, not that anybody would remember what it was like since they weren't there.

Neoteny · Post by **Neoteny** » Mon Jan 07, 2008 1:50 am

I realize it's small so I'll rewrite it:

Dinosaurs aren't extinct, they're just hiding.

comic boy · Post by **comic boy** » Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:26 am

brooksieb wrote:GOD CREATED THE ANIMALS THEN GOD MADE EM EVOLVE

and yes i am christian, i am high church of england (which is closer to catholicism then anything else)

and the world was made probably about 6 billion yrs ago tho the bible say 6000yrs ago (maybe the guy writing it made a mistake = ) ) why not everyone can!

If I were you I should forget bible class for a while and concentrate on improving your spelling and grammar

Neoteny · Post by **Neoteny** » Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:26 am

comic boy wrote:
brooksieb wrote:GOD CREATED THE ANIMALS THEN GOD MADE EM EVOLVE

and yes i am christian, i am high church of england (which is closer to catholicism then anything else)

and the world was made probably about 6 billion yrs ago tho the bible say 6000yrs ago (maybe the guy writing it made a mistake = ) ) why not everyone can!
If I were you I should forget bible class for a while and concentrate on improving your spelling and grammar

I'm going to start calling myself "high church of england."

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