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Giving away information to opponent

Postby Cpt.Oliman on Mon Jan 25, 2016 7:06 am

Hi,

I just joined a fog-trench polygame. When I joined it was my move so I made my move.

I later got a chat from my opponent where the opponent asked me if I would mind to give information about which area I took and what that area could see prior to it's elimination. I said: "I do mind" . .

feels like a douche thing to do. . .but hey, it's war! and these are military secrets, right?

what would you have done?
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Re: Giving away information to opponent

Postby iAmCaffeine on Mon Jan 25, 2016 7:11 am

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As Don has explained, the "12hr fog rule" is a common thing among experienced players but is not anything official. It originates from clan wars whereby clans would often agree a 12hr time slot before taking the first turn in fog games so that the team playing second can view the board as it would have been before being attacked.

It's more a courtesy than anything else, though many players respect it in all games.
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Re: Giving away information to opponent

Postby WingCmdr Ginkapo on Mon Jan 25, 2016 8:40 am

Make something else up. Confuse them
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Re: Giving away information to opponent

Postby owenshooter on Mon Jan 25, 2016 8:44 am

not against the rules. not in the rules. suck it up, cupcake.-Jésus noir

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Re: Giving away information to opponent

Postby Donelladan on Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:03 am

owenshooter wrote:not against the rules. not in the rules. suck it up, cupcake.-Jésus noir



To who is addressed this "suck it up, cupcake", the OP ? Because I really don't see why you're saying that to him here. He isn't complaining about anything, so I don't see how he could "suck it up". He is merely asking information about smthg he apparently never encountered before.
To which you answer "not against the rules. not in the rules." is perfectly correct btw.
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Re: Giving away information to opponent

Postby owenshooter on Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:18 am

Donelladan wrote:
owenshooter wrote:not against the rules. not in the rules. suck it up, cupcake.-Jésus noir



To who is addressed this "suck it up, cupcake", the OP ? Because I really don't see why you're saying that to him here. He isn't complaining about anything, so I don't see how he could "suck it up". He is merely asking information about smthg he apparently never encountered before.
To which you answer "not against the rules. not in the rules." is perfectly correct btw.




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Re: Giving away information to opponent

Postby Donelladan on Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:54 am

Didn't get it sorry.
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Re: Giving away information to opponent

Postby WingCmdr Ginkapo on Mon Jan 25, 2016 1:56 pm

Donelladan wrote:Didn't get it sorry.


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Re: Giving away information to opponent

Postby waauw on Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:10 pm

I never mention it, unless it's a clanwar or the person himself asks me to adhere to the 12h fog rule. Seems like the best way to avoid any animosity(bad ratings) at the start of the game. It really isn't worth bickering about. Any decent player can win games despite this courtesy-rule, so it's hardly a tragedy.
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Re: Giving away information to opponent

Postby owenshooter on Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:34 pm

waauw wrote:I never mention it, unless it's a clanwar or the person himself asks me to adhere to the 12h fog rule. Seems like the best way to avoid any animosity(bad ratings) at the start of the game. It really isn't worth bickering about. Any decent player can win games despite this courtesy-rule, so it's hardly a tragedy.

the courtesy rule is bullshit clan cry-baby garbage. another thing that is WRONG with what clans have become. if you can't figure out what has happened after the first turn, cry me a river, seriously. it is not a strategy, it is someone eager to get a game going...-Jésus noir
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Re: Giving away information to opponent

Postby Bernie Sanders on Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:20 am

Not sure what the big deal is about the exchange of intel to other players? Is there RULES against such play? If not, why care? Players will use whatever advantage to win and that's considered what? Bad sportsmanship?

War games are that, war.

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Re: Giving away information to opponent

Postby owenshooter on Wed Jan 27, 2016 11:32 am

Bernie Sanders wrote:Not sure what the big deal is about the exchange of intel to other players? Is there RULES against such play? If not, why care? Players will use whatever advantage to win and that's considered what? Bad sportsmanship?

War games are that, war.

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excuse me? when did this M F'er start making so much damn sense?!!! i think i'm in love with Bernie!!! the black jesus is a convert!!!-Jésus noir
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Re: Giving away information to opponent

Postby Bernie Sanders on Wed Jan 27, 2016 12:12 pm

owenshooter wrote:
Bernie Sanders wrote:Not sure what the big deal is about the exchange of intel to other players? Is there RULES against such play? If not, why care? Players will use whatever advantage to win and that's considered what? Bad sportsmanship?

War games are that, war.

All fair in LOVE and WAR. Unless written in the Geneva Convention.


excuse me? when did this M F'er start making so much damn sense?!!! i think i'm in love with Bernie!!! the black jesus is a convert!!!-Jésus noir


What's next? Dogs and Cats sleeping together?
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Re: Giving away information to opponent

Postby Ltrain on Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:17 pm

owenshooter wrote:
waauw wrote:I never mention it, unless it's a clanwar or the person himself asks me to adhere to the 12h fog rule. Seems like the best way to avoid any animosity(bad ratings) at the start of the game. It really isn't worth bickering about. Any decent player can win games despite this courtesy-rule, so it's hardly a tragedy.

the courtesy rule is bullshit clan cry-baby garbage. another thing that is WRONG with what clans have become. if you can't figure out what has happened after the first turn, cry me a river, seriously. it is not a strategy, it is someone eager to get a game going...-Jésus noir


I agree with both of you. I have had people get pissed (only a couple) that i moved before 12 hours in a 1v1 game. Yea, im not waiting 12 hours to start arms race lol.

Fog war is only really important (to me) in trips/quads games where elimination is key so you want to have that first snap to have as much vision on your opponents as possible
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Re: Giving away information to opponent

Postby ronsizzle on Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:03 pm

i got into a huge argument one time about this. do you remember that owen? fucking hysterical that people expect that.
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Re: Giving away information to opponent

Postby owenshooter on Thu Jan 28, 2016 9:41 am

Bernie Sanders wrote:What's next? Dogs and Cats sleeping together?




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Re: Giving away information to opponent

Postby ConfederateSS on Thu Jan 28, 2016 10:20 am

----Someone might give out false info...So why ask...Not that anyone would give out false info. :roll:
----As for player to player etiquette...I see these written but ignored. Most likely ignored by those 12hr people(cry babies).
----1)Do not purposefully delay your game.
----2)Never purposefully miss your turns to receive an army bonus.
----3)Give advanced warning if you are going to miss turns.
----I WOULDN'T WORRY ABOUT RULES OR UNWRITTEN RULES ANYWAY...God knows the High Command doesn't. They make them and break ,bend ,twist,rewrite them when it suits their purposes. ;) ... :D ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion). :D ...
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Re: Giving away information to opponent

Postby Bernie Sanders on Thu Jan 28, 2016 1:08 pm

ConfederateSS wrote:----Someone might give out false info...So why ask...Not that anyone would give out false info. :roll:
----As for player to player etiquette...I see these written but ignored. Most likely ignored by those 12hr people(cry babies).
----1)Do not purposefully delay your game.
----2)Never purposefully miss your turns to receive an army bonus.
----3)Give advanced warning if you are going to miss turns.
----I WOULDN'T WORRY ABOUT RULES OR UNWRITTEN RULES ANYWAY...God knows the High Command doesn't. They make them and break ,bend ,twist,rewrite them when it suits their purposes. ;) ... :D ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion). :D ...



----2)Never purposefully miss your turns to receive an army bonus.

Isn't that part of the strategy that some players use? I played a couple of games where it seems that, they were missing turns on purpose for extra army deployments. It's legal, I guess, but it delays the game and I'm sure frustrates other players.
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Re: Giving away information to opponent

Postby Donelladan on Thu Jan 28, 2016 4:00 pm

Bernie Sanders wrote:Isn't that part of the strategy that some players use? I played a couple of games where it seems that, they were missing turns on purpose for extra army deployments. It's legal, I guess, but it delays the game and I'm sure frustrates other players.

You do not get extra deployment when you miss a turn. You get the deployment of your turn plus a deployment for the miss turn, which is either same or less that you would have received if you had played the turn you miss.
They probably miss turns because of real life issue, or maybe just because they forgot to log in to CC.
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