Black Metal Mafia - SCUM WINS

[Charle]

I don't understand what is going on at the moment, but can we try and get some logical posts of who we think might be guilty?

There is not much to work with if we are not staying with the topic.

[SoN!c]

I don't understand what is going on at the moment, but can we try and get some logical posts of who we think might be guilty?

There is not much to work with if we are not staying with the topic.

That is exactly the point Charle. There is nothing to work with here.

Players that are not comitted in here or babbling barzouk nonsense should be lynched.

[strike wolf]

Screw it. Unvote Vote jfm. I think that JFM is on the wrong track with Son!c but I'm not convinced that makes him scum or Son!c town. Frankly it just sounds like Ragian warned Son!c in PM because Son!c realized his error and apologized in PM (and also one post edit where Son!c immediately apologized is less significant than Charle quoting a portion of his PM in thread). So in my eyes, Son!c being warned via PM isnt really that alignment indicative. Of the two, JFM being somewhat hypocritical and contradictory is more of a red flag.

[Loose Canon]

I think it benefits town to work in some sort of a systemized framework way for lynching.
Particularly when there is as there seems to be at the moment no strong evidence against any player, (and there might never be).
Even though town players particularly those with powers and those with particular suspicions will want to and might justifiably deviate from this.

Early indicative votes seems to have some support.

I am going to re-propose that in the absence of a jailkeeper or a detective (if any) having come forward that Charle nominates one player X for lynching.
(it may be Sonic or Charle may change his mind)
Player X then nominates a second player Y as an alternative for lynching.
We then all argue back and forth as to lynch X, Y or indeed No Lynch.

I don't want to force a claim, although it may be that as a last resort a player on the verge of being lynched might feel their hand is forced.
I do want vote pressure to be applied to see what if anything falls out of it.
Other players may well emerge as more suspicious in the course of the arguing.


And if players don't like this idea I do think they should argue against it.
Maybe now , or maybe as it is tried.

But I do think starting in a systemized way for lynching today is the best course - at least for now.

Arguers????

[jfm10]

unvote sonic
vote kongming3

[Loose Canon]

Well I'm still going to push the case for sonic being scum a bit more.

Each townie may be right or wrong about their suspicions but at least their suspicions come from an honest place.

The one thing scum HAVE to falsify is any suspicion they have on other players.

I've not seen sonic openly post any real suspicions, I've seen deflection onto flavour and other stuff where sonic can genuinely claim innocence.
I've seen go on vote for me if you think I'm guilty. I've seen sonic point to other players suspicions, and I've seen hints at other players playing suspiciously from sonic.

I'm gonna say it, not only do I think sonic is most likely to be scum on what evidence I see so far, but worse than that sonic is playing timidly whether town or scum.
To me in this game sonic is NO ROCKSTAR

[jfm10]

unvote sonic
vote kongming3

I found only 8 posts from him the whole game. The quality in the posts and not just the low number.
It is who I believe is sonics partner.

[SoN!c]

Hey ROCKSTAR, Why are you so blind for JFM's inconsistencies and contradictions? And going after me right after i popped JFM's random balloon? Are you protecting him?

Let me resume again:

JFM posts his "not random assigned scum list" (conveniently he leaves himself out of that list) BUT he leaves you out too Loose??? And besides a small fun post you splitting up the band you never come back to that subject again..

Then i pop JFM's balloon on the not random theory and point out inconsistencies and... all the sudden...JFM and you are both coming for me. In cahoots. JFM because of the "edit post" which was all the sudden a big problem... It sure was not a problem 2 weeks before when he claimed he saw me changing it but convieniently it became "proof" right after popping his balloon. And you at the exact time jumped at me too. Reason? "Not searching enough" LMAO (while i easlily will have most post here and searched flavour and Traf to start with) and quote "not being a ROCKSTAR"... DOUBLE LMAO

And By now JFM has me paired with following "scumpartners": EW, Strike and Max, and now Kong. So we are halfway D2 and im having 4 scumpartners already..

Ofcourse, according to JFM's theory these are all members of the "not random assigned scum list" (Pix was a member too btw).

So two times he says i have 1 scumpartner (EW and Kong) and one time he says i have 2: Strike and Max

why can't Sonic and Max be scum and they recruited Strike?
If Sonic is scum on a lynch then vote Stike tomorrow as they could likely do it on their own
I am not saying in any way their is a cop but if Sonic is scum
For those labeled town you are not good enough for ragians scum party and the remaining 4 are who the 2 scum would have chosen from.
Meaning at least 1 non town is scum.

But notice!!: Max is not on his "not random assigned scum list"??? All the sudden there are 2 townies (of the non random list) scum??

JFM slides Max in together with Strike there. Now why is that?

And you keep being blind Loose??? Also, very conveniently, about halfway you said the jailkeeper had to protect himself that night; suggesting to us that you do not know how a jailkeeper works in here. That was very scummy Loose. You, not knowing how a jailkeeper works? I posted it but you avoided that. I wonder why?

So: Loose, JFM and Max our scumtrio. Could it be the random scum was JFM and Max and Max recruited you Loose?


Because of the Charle game where you and Max bonded so hard in day chat? Hmmmm? JFM is new so Max having that idea (recruiting you seems spot on to me and in pair with Max). Then Killing Pix N1 because you Loose, you knows there is one cop and 2 jailkeepers that are probably checking me out (after the BIG SCUMMIFICATION BASED ON BULLGALORE) but you guys (you especially Loose) also know you can't risk going after Strike/EW because one of them could be jailed after the FoS you placed on them both D1. And Loose knows (saw) that Traf is just fast scrolling, only reading half of it, so Traf won't be a problem and will be dealt with later in the game + King and Dev are out of town it seems...

Did i nail it Loose? Pretty sure i did. Now go and sit in a corner.

[Ragian]

Official vote count



Son!c (2) - Loose, Charle,
Traf (1) - Strike
jfm (3) - kong, Son!c, strike
kong (2) - Max, jfm

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

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Latest post mod time (GMT+1)

1. Charle - Jan 17, 7:51 am
2. Extreme Ways - Jan 16, 10:47 am
3. Kingm - no posts D2 - awaiting resolution
4. Son!c - Jan 18, 4:29 am
5. strike wolf - Jan 17, 3:08 pm
6. Loose Cannon - Jan 17, 11:25 am
8. Devante - Jan 14, 10:25 pm - prodded
9. kongming3 - Jan 14, 6:07 am - prodded
10. jfm10 - Jan 18, 12:10 am
11. Trafalgarlaw01 - Jan 16, 4:04 am
12. Maxleod - Jan 15, 7:50 am - prodded

[Ragian]

Dev, kong, and Max have been prodded.

[Loose Canon]

Hey mere mortal,

JFM / Abbath could be scum - I should know he was in MY BAND but I don't , I've forgotten what he looks like since I spilt it up on this tour.
For all I know he's gone all new wave now anyway?

[Loose Canon]

Sonic, I don't think I did place a FOS on EW D1.
I didn't want to add fuel to the scum must have recruited fire because I'm not so sure about that, and if I had been recruiting I think EW would have been too obvious for my taste.

But on EW one thing that has been niggling me a bit is he referred to the baddies as wolves on D1.
I've assumed that the baddies are Mafia - I think because the game is called Black Metal Mafia.
I'm wondering whether he didn't deliberately say wolves to make people think of Strike?

Its been niggling me a bit anyway.

[SoN!c]

Sonic, I don't think I did place a FOS on EW D1.
I didn't want to add fuel to the scum must have recruited fire because I'm not so sure about that, and if I had been recruiting I think EW would have been too obvious for my taste.

But on EW one thing that has been niggling me a bit is he referred to the baddies as wolves on D1.
I've assumed that the baddies are Mafia - I think because the game is called Black Metal Mafia.
I'm wondering whether he didn't deliberately say wolves to make people think of Strike?

Its been niggling me a bit anyway.

Is this the best you can do to deflect the FoS away from you IMMORTAL?

Let me say what has been niggling me too: Bands in the 90's played in the evening (at night), gigs in small concert halls / barns, so at night the scum are the IMMORTALS in this game. Nothing can kill the scum at night here IMMORTAL. Town are the mortals here, just like you just called me. A little slip up?

Did you all think about the bandnames you played in when receiving your artist name? That it could have meaning? Because i did not and i think most didn't do that either.

But that is just a meaningless niggle ofcourse.

JFM who posted his non random assigned scum roles 1000 times all the sudden saying Max and me (from his town list) are the original scumpair??? And you being blind to it? That's a big red flag. Then saying Charle may choose the lynch (but if you read it, it really says "but Charle has to choose SoN!c"...). That is steering others,and steering is not true town action.

And even you will have to admit that if Max is original scum he would have recruited you 100% because of the Charle game.

Now all the sudden you don't wanna add fuel to the "scum must have recruited fire" because you are not so sure about that? I remember a post of you saying you were very sure scum would not have recruited?

And scum killing Pix, that has really been niggling me.

ok King/all - between no/low posters and players who you have genuine suspicions of - there should be enough for votes to start to be cast now.

Personally I'm sticking with Pixar for low posting at present.

Was that the reason Loose? He was low posting anyways? And you said that a bit later again: "I'm feeling another low poster Pixar who engaged late in this game - and I'm feeling the timing of his first posting as suss"

Was that the ground work for his kill later on? Because everybody knows Pix was town after he cleared Charle on his pm. But sprinkling a tiny bit of fairy dust on Pix would made you the least suspect if Pix got wacked that night.

And also: Pix was voting Max...and now he is dead. Was the vote on your scumbuddy Max the real reason perhaps?

Vote Max

If you are town, you would know Charle is telling the truth. Very sus that you wouldn't believe him, do you think he just made that stuff up? And mod would randomly give him a penalty for no reason?

You sure defended Max beyond there:

...
But I'll still offer my take on other players;

Max has struck a - you know what I think he might just be onto something here - chord with me a couple of times in this game.
The way he doubled down on his suspicions of Charle was to me reminiscent of how he was in mason chat with me ironically in Charle's game.
I think a lynch on Max would be a mislynch.

----...
(SoN!c edit: PIXAR VOTING MAX )
....
Pix though - and this could be confirmation bias - is pinging on my scumdar more loudly now.
First of all it was just instinct.
But now...
He made his first post after I'd voted him on instinct - and it had a bit of an I need to say something feel about it.
He made his first vote after I unvoted him.
Either in my imagination or subconciously or less likely conciously he's acting like a twisted dark mirror image of me.

Let me repeat:

"he way he doubled down on his suspicions of Charle was to me reminiscent of how he was in mason chat with me ironically in Charle's game."

That is why he recruited you. Why bring that up? Preemptive attemt so nobody would think of the possibility Max is scum in this game (and then ofcourse recruiting you)?? Hmmmm?


Am i getting hot IMMORTAL?

[Charle]

It is becoming complicated, want to spend a bit of time reading again. For now, nothing really jumps out to me.

Unvote

[Extreme Ways]

I use mafia wolves scum all regardless of the flavour fwiw.

Sonic's emotional reaction makes sense.
Jfm's pivot to Sonic's "scumbuddy" does not make sense. Jfm posted more than just that reasoning, but if you think X is Y's buddy as a reason for suspicion, it requires that Y flips mafia first.

[Devante]

Sorry all. Travelling till Monday but I'll catch up on things then

[Loose Canon]

Ok sonic, I'll give you a signed t-shirt of me

[kongming3]

JFM - you have yet to address any of your inconsistencies in postings and what you've been saying and now you're just randomly revenge voting me? I don't get why you're trying to pair me with sonic and then choose to vote me over sonic (beyond again the obvious you're upset my vote is currently on you for reasons I've explained that you haven't said anything about.) The thing about some mystical aspect of the quality and quantity of my posts that means you have to vote me (which again you don't explain what that is) is also contrived when I've posted more than some others and had actual content in my posts? Max for instance, who is the other vote on me, has posted four times all game including the confirmation of play, and the most recent one was just to say f*ck me and vote me as scum because I apparently joined a tournament he'd been putting off joining?

For what it's worth, I'm sort of still up in the air on sonic but if you'd actually read my posts you'd have seen my literal first post after confirmation was trying to keep sonic on the hook after charle or loose tried to let him off easy.

[Ragian]

Official vote count



Son!c (1) - Loose,
Traf (1) - Strike
jfm (3) - kong, Son!c, strike
kong (2) - Max, jfm

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

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Latest post mod time (GMT+1)

1. Charle - Jan 18, 10:06 am
2. Extreme Ways - Jan 18, 10:59 am
3. Kingm - no posts D2 - awaiting resolution
4. Son!c - Jan 18, 9:28 am
5. strike wolf - Jan 17, 3:08 pm
6. Loose Cannon - Jan 18, 5:46 pm
8. Devante - Jan 18, 4:49 pm
9. kongming3 - Jan 18, 5:52 pm
10. jfm10 - Jan 18, 12:10 am
11. Trafalgarlaw01 - Jan 16, 4:04 am - prodded
12. Maxleod - Jan 15, 7:50 am - prodded

[Loose Canon]

Kong , jfm/abbath/or the real abbath didnt answer why he ironed some but not all of my shirts when on tour.
Inconsistency seems to be his thing.

[SoN!c]

For the record, Strike has 2 votes (for the second time) and a scummy Loose always defends himself with nonsense or typical silly Loose behaviour when cornered..

"abbath didnt answer why he ironed some but not all of my shirts when on tour"

"Ok sonic, I'll give you a signed t-shirt of me"

And why are you answering Kong's question to JFM instead JFM answering himself? Afraid JFM might say something contradictory again?

[jfm10]

JFM - you have yet to address any of your inconsistencies in postings and what you've been saying and now you're just randomly revenge voting me? I don't get why you're trying to pair me with sonic and then choose to vote me over sonic (beyond again the obvious you're upset my vote is currently on you for reasons I've explained that you haven't said anything about.) The thing about some mystical aspect of the quality and quantity of my posts that means you have to vote me (which again you don't explain what that is) is also contrived when I've posted more than some others and had actual content in my posts? Max for instance, who is the other vote on me, has posted four times all game including the confirmation of play, and the most recent one was just to say f*ck me and vote me as scum because I apparently joined a tournament he'd been putting off joining?

For what it's worth, I'm sort of still up in the air on sonic but if you'd actually read my posts you'd have seen my literal first post after confirmation was trying to keep sonic on the hook after charle or loose tried to let him off easy.

Please address your question more specifically . what has been looked at as inconsistent?

[SoN!c]

Pix dead because he voted Max? The only vote Pix ever made was on Max.. Even if Max is not scum (if he is original scum he would have recruited Loose 100%) it would be a good motive for Loose to kill Pix. Because Loose, your friend Max - even as town and you as scum - would never vote you after the Charle game.

Is that why you defended Max so strongly D1? (how can you as townie be so sure Max is not scum in this game?)??

Now you even say there is no hard proof on anybody, but now that there is on you, you can only come up with nonsense to counter, saying some yadayada about ironing T-shirts and signing them??

You posted this on Fri Jan 17, 2025 8:11 pm That was just 2 days ago.. :

I think it benefits town to work in some sort of a systemized framework way for lynching.
Particularly when there is as there seems to be at the moment no strong evidence against any player, (and there might never be)....

but very subtile slipping in "Charle may choose the lynch today and it may be Sonic or Charle may change his mind", giving Charle a little push to lynch me..


You sure go beyond and above and are doing everything you can to steer a quick lynch on me..i wonder why? When subtile hints failed you, you had to come forward even more.

Afraid of sonic search activity on you?


I present a serious case with serious evidence on you and all you can say is your ironing T-shirts?

[jfm10]

JFM who posted his non random assigned scum roles 1000 times all the sudden saying Max and me (from his town list) are the original scumpair??? And you being blind to it? That's a big red flag. Then saying Charle may choose the lynch (but if you read it, it really says "but Charle has to choose SoN!c"...). That is steering others,and steering is not true town action.

When did I ever say max was scum?
From a sonic quote.

[jfm10]

Hey ROCKSTAR, Why are you so blind for JFM's inconsistencies and contradictions? And going after me right after i popped JFM's random balloon? Are you protecting him?

Let me resume again:

JFM posts his "not random assigned scum list" (conveniently he leaves himself out of that list) BUT he leaves you out too Loose??? And besides a small fun post you splitting up the band you never come back to that subject again..

Then i pop JFM's balloon on the not random theory and point out inconsistencies and... all the sudden...JFM and you are both coming for me. In cahoots. JFM because of the "edit post" which was all the sudden a big problem... It sure was not a problem 2 weeks before when he claimed he saw me changing it but convieniently it became "proof" right after popping his balloon. And you at the exact time jumped at me too. Reason? "Not searching enough" LMAO (while i easlily will have most post here and searched flavour and Traf to start with) and quote "not being a ROCKSTAR"... DOUBLE LMAO

And By now JFM has me paired with following "scumpartners": EW, Strike and Max, and now Kong. So we are halfway D2 and im having 4 scumpartners already..

Ofcourse, according to JFM's theory these are all members of the "not random assigned scum list" (Pix was a member too btw).

So two times he says i have 1 scumpartner (EW and Kong) and one time he says i have 2: Strike and Max

why can't Sonic and Max be scum and they recruited Strike?
If Sonic is scum on a lynch then vote Stike tomorrow as they could likely do it on their own
I am not saying in any way their is a cop but if Sonic is scum
For those labeled town you are not good enough for ragians scum party and the remaining 4 are who the 2 scum would have chosen from.
Meaning at least 1 non town is scum.

But notice!!: Max is not on his "not random assigned scum list"??? All the sudden there are 2 townies (of the non random list) scum??

JFM slides Max in together with Strike there. Now why is that?

And you keep being blind Loose??? Also, very conveniently, about halfway you said the jailkeeper had to protect himself that night; suggesting to us that you do not know how a jailkeeper works in here. That was very scummy Loose. You, not knowing how a jailkeeper works? I posted it but you avoided that. I wonder why?

So: Loose, JFM and Max our scumtrio. Could it be the random scum was JFM and Max and Max recruited you Loose?


Because of the Charle game where you and Max bonded so hard in day chat? Hmmmm? JFM is new so Max having that idea (recruiting you seems spot on to me and in pair with Max). Then Killing Pix N1 because you Loose, you knows there is one cop and 2 jailkeepers that are probably checking me out (after the BIG SCUMMIFICATION BASED ON BULLGALORE) but you guys (you especially Loose) also know you can't risk going after Strike/EW because one of them could be jailed after the FoS you placed on them both D1. And Loose knows (saw) that Traf is just fast scrolling, only reading half of it, so Traf won't be a problem and will be dealt with later in the game + King and Dev are out of town it seems...

Did i nail it Loose? Pretty sure i did. Now go and sit in a corner.

Good to see you and kong agree on my inconsistencies and he followed you on it.