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Hive - Doubles, No Spoils, Trench - Round 14
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click to deploy here
click to assault from here
click to assault to here
click to reinforce from here
click to reinforce to here
click to reinforce to here
right-click to reinforce from here
right-click to reinforce from here
click to select/deselect
right-click to play set
right-click to play set
click again to deploy troops
click again to assault
right-click to auto-assault
right-click to auto-assault
click again to advance troops
right-click to advance zero
right-click to advance zero
click to advance zero troops
click again to reinforce troops
click again to reinforce troops
right-click to reinforce from here
right-click to reinforce from here
- Team 1
- r:JPlo64
- g:Fyrdraca
- Team 2
- b:josko.ri
- y:Astoriana
Statistics
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Team1 | ||||||
| 4.9 | 209 | 325 | 66 | ||
| 4.9 | 135 | 246 | 44 | ||
Team2 | ||||||
| 4.8 | 0 | 0 | 0 | ||
| 5.0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Game #18082570: 4 Players, Doubles, No Spoils, Sequential, Chained, Trench
Clans Tournament: 2017 [CL9] Premier Division
Label: R 9 FOED vs S&M
Clans Tournament: 2017 [CL9] Premier Division
Label: R 9 FOED vs S&M
Help
Play States
| WAITING | CASH | DEPLOY | ASSAULT | ADVANCE | DEFERRED | REINFORCE | ELIMINATED | VICTORY | |
| Above are the possible play states of a turn. Click on each for a description. Note: the main phases of a turn are DEPLOY, ASSAULT, REINFORCE - other phases occur as they are relevant. | |||||||||
Play By Clickable Map
Deploy: Click on territory to deploy, choose number to deploy and click again to make deploymentAssault: Click on a territory to Assault from, then on a territory to Assault (right click to Auto Assault)
Advance: Click on conquered territory to choose to advance, choose number to advance, then click again to advance. Click on conquering territory to advance zero.
Reinforce: Click on a territory to Reinforce from, then on a territory to Reinforce to. Click again to confirm.
Play By Keyboard and Mouse
N Key: Skip to next game, Jump to next gameB Key: Begin Turn
E Key: End Deployment, End Assaults, End Reinforcement
L Key: Later (decline to play spoils)
W,S Keys: Increase/decrease troop quantity (slow)
Q,A Keys: Increase/decrease troop quantity (fast)
Mouse Wheel: Change troop quantity by scrolling over the selected region.
CTRL Key + Click: You can always use CTRL-click instead of the right mouse button.
Middle Click: To advance to next stage (Begin Turn, End Assaults, etc.) click the middle mouse button anywhere on the map.
- Players
- 4
- Game Type
- Doubles
- Slots Per Player
- 1
- Initial Troops
- Automatic
- Play Order
- Sequential
- Spoils
- No Spoils
- Reinforcements
- Chained
- Fog of War
- No
- Trench Warfare
- Yes
- Round Limit
- None
- Round Length
- 24 Hours
| Players | 4 | |
| Game Type | Doubles | In a Doubles games, pairs of two players team up against other teams. The last team alive wins. |
| Initial Troops | Automatic | Regions are randomly distributed at the start of the game and each region starts with three troops. |
| Play Order | Sequential | A player is selected at random to go first and then subsequent players follow in turn. During a team game the play order alternates between the teams. |
| Spoils | No Spoils | There are no 'spoils' in this game. |
| Reinforcements | Chained | At the end of your turn you can reinforce once from one region to another (they must be connected by regions that you own). |
| Fog of War | No | Fog of War masks enemy positions that are not adjacent to your forces (or your team's forces). It also masks region and zone names in the log |
| Trench Warfare | Yes | You can only assault from regions held since the start of your turn. If you conquer a region during your turn you cannot assault from it until your next turn. |
| Round Limit | None | |
| Round Length | 24 Hours | Each player has up to 24 hours to complete a turn. You will get an email notification when it is your turn to play. |
| Scoring | Regular | Regular leaderboard scoring is in place for this game |
Please see our Game Options Help Page for more details on all the different options.
 | Hive: | 350 Territories, 49 Continents, 6 Start Positions, Min Reinforcements: 3 |  |
Toggles change the setting temporarily, other settings are saved on a per map basis. For site-wide settings see our Game Settings page.
2018-02-27 11:56:15 - Game has been initialized
2018-03-20 01:23:10 - Fyrdraca eliminated Astoriana from the game
2018-03-20 01:23:14 - Fyrdraca eliminated josko.ri from the game
2018-03-20 01:23:14 - JPlo64, Fyrdraca won the game
2018-03-20 01:23:14 - josko.ri lost 23 points
2018-03-20 01:23:14 - Astoriana lost 23 points
2018-03-20 01:23:14 - JPlo64 gained 23 points
2018-03-20 01:23:14 - Fyrdraca gained 23 points
2018-03-20 01:23:10 - Fyrdraca eliminated Astoriana from the game
2018-03-20 01:23:14 - Fyrdraca eliminated josko.ri from the game
2018-03-20 01:23:14 - JPlo64, Fyrdraca won the game
2018-03-20 01:23:14 - josko.ri lost 23 points
2018-03-20 01:23:14 - Astoriana lost 23 points
2018-03-20 01:23:14 - JPlo64 gained 23 points
2018-03-20 01:23:14 - Fyrdraca gained 23 points
2018-03-11 19:12:05 - Fyrdraca: you conveniently forget to mention that I also went 0-4 the exact previous turn protecting my I02 bonus attacking 6v2, which actually is about 5% better odds than 7v3
2018-03-11 19:12:40 - Fyrdraca: so in a vacuum, me failing my 6v2 to protect a +3 and yellow failing 7v3 to protect a +3 even out
2018-03-11 19:13:32 - Fyrdraca: in light of the fact that you like evidence-based analysis, let's look at the numbers and see why the turn was played incorrectly from the start
2018-03-11 19:15:24 - Fyrdraca: yellow decided to attack 10v4,3 (O12); 7v3 (G08), 7v3 (R10), 8v4 (I03), 4v2 (E10), and 6v1,1,1 (K08)
2018-03-11 19:18:13 - Fyrdraca: 10v4,3 is 67.04%; 7v3 is 85.69%; 8v4 is 83.37%; 4v2 is 65.59%; and 6v1,1,1 is 67.75%
2018-03-11 19:19:01 - Fyrdraca: thus, the odds of each of those attacks being successful is 18.24%
2018-03-11 19:20:11 - Fyrdraca: thus, dropping in order to attack on 6 different fronts with only 18.24% odds of success shows one of two things
2018-03-11 19:21:38 - Fyrdraca: either you don't know the statistics behind your rolls and assume success much more often than you should, or you felt the need to make all of those attacks
2018-03-11 19:23:23 - Fyrdraca: if the former, then it explains why you are complaining about failing in only 2/6 spots (which even if we take out the odds for 4v2 and 6v1,1,1 you were only 41.04% to be successful on the other 4)
2018-03-11 19:23:54 - Fyrdraca: and if the latter (being that you felt the need to make all of those attacks, then your strategy was clearly wrong
2018-03-11 19:24:45 - Fyrdraca: based on how this game has gone so far, my judgment would lean toward a mix of both not understanding statistics and not fully grasping how to play this specific game
2018-03-11 19:26:29 - Fyrdraca: the fact that you thought defending your +5 at only 85.69% odds was good enough instead of increasing those odds and not attacking a +1 of ours is truly mindboggling
2018-03-11 19:26:56 - Fyrdraca: but I'll leave the stats alone in case it is too much math for you to understand
2018-03-11 19:29:01 - Fyrdraca: but don't forget yellow also successfully won a 4v3 attack, which is only 47% odds of success
2018-03-11 19:30:09 - Fyrdraca: I also find it funny that you wrote this just a few days ago
2018-03-11 19:30:15 - Fyrdraca: 2018-03-07 08:12:54 - josko.ri: You will blame dice later on for your lower strategy here, but no my friend you are not winning this one.
2018-03-11 19:30:32 - Fyrdraca: and now here you are complaining about the exact same thing you said we would complain about
2018-03-11 19:31:13 - Fyrdraca: not to mention the fact that the most classless thing someone could do is make a comment about guaranteeing a win in both this Hive dubs game and the other Hive quads game without the games having even started
2018-03-11 19:33:19 - Fyrdraca: particularly when you are playing against very solid teams and when one game (Hive dubs with these settings) you had never played before
2018-03-11 19:34:18 - Fyrdraca: and Astoriana had only played 3 prior games, but the last was over 5.5 years ago
2018-03-11 19:36:36 - Fyrdraca: and you're playing opponents who each have over 15 recent games on this map
2018-03-11 21:18:13 - Fyrdraca: I should also say that I am not saying this to unfairly criticize your play for this game, but as a response to show that you have proven to use certain pieces of information to further the argument you are trying to make while omitting parts that detract
2018-03-11 21:18:35 - Fyrdraca: and oppose your point of view
2018-03-11 21:20:07 - Fyrdraca: plus, most of us play this game for fun and enjoyment, and there is truly no reason to lambaste people and accuse them of cheating/whining when you don't have the full picture of what someone's real life actually looks like
2018-03-11 21:33:24 - rockfist: Never tell me the odds
2018-03-12 00:55:48 - josko.ri: tldr
2018-03-12 01:38:44 - Fyrdraca: That's fine. tldr would be you've no right to complain about dice because you tried to do too much
2018-03-12 01:39:20 - Fyrdraca: And stop making this game unenjoyable for people. You're turning into PaP
2018-03-12 01:40:45 - Fyrdraca: Also funny that you of all people are complaining about someone else's long post
2018-03-12 09:51:41 - Conchobar: Lolz. Well I did read it all and thoroughly enjoyed it despite being bamboozled by all them statistics, which is nothing new tbh.
2018-03-12 09:55:46 - Conchobar: While my talents lie elsewhere, Fyrd & JP are number wizards, and you really could show a bit of class and respect, josko. There is nothing wrong with recognizing and complimenting a valiant opponent.
2018-03-12 10:01:21 - Conchobar: In fact, doing so only makes victories sweeter and defeats less painful. So honestly, win or lose, I genuinely hope that the main positive to emerge from CL9 will be something of an attitude adjustment for you, good sir.
2018-03-12 10:04:08 - Conchobar: Confidence and competitiveness are good things, but arrogance and hypocrisy are not. Just a little friendly advice. ;) And now I hope we can put all of this ugliness behind us and move on... :)
2018-03-12 12:19:44 - Fyrdraca: 61% for all to be successful, over 80% each attack
2018-03-12 12:20:25 - Fyrdraca: Oops must've had the button unchecked
2018-03-17 08:52:42 - Astoriana: good game team 1, well played
2018-03-17 11:15:30 - JPlo64: good game guys
2018-03-17 17:26:54 - josko.ri: gg
2018-03-17 17:58:51 - Fyrdraca: gg Josko and Astoriana
2018-03-17 17:58:57 - Fyrdraca: Was a good fight!
2018-03-18 23:52:22 - Extreme Ways: they might be numbers people
2018-03-18 23:52:32 - Extreme Ways: but 4v3 is not 47%
2018-03-18 23:52:40 - Extreme Ways: unless you roll 1v2 and the like, then it is
2018-03-18 23:52:45 - Extreme Ways: in most scenarios 4v3 is 31%
2018-03-18 23:52:57 - Extreme Ways: that is, rolling 2-0 and then either 1-0 or 0-1 then 1-0
2018-03-18 23:53:04 - Extreme Ways: one of my biggest pet peeves on CC
2018-03-19 01:14:59 - Fyrdraca: In a game like this specific one, you often do roll completely out due to settings
2018-03-19 01:15:21 - Fyrdraca: But sure, I'd agree that 4v3 is less than 47% in most cases
2018-03-19 01:15:40 - Fyrdraca: Further proves my point that Josko hadn't a reason to complain about their dice that turn
2018-03-19 17:29:32 - pconnolly365: Nice win FOED. What are the odds eh!
2018-03-11 19:12:40 - Fyrdraca: so in a vacuum, me failing my 6v2 to protect a +3 and yellow failing 7v3 to protect a +3 even out
2018-03-11 19:13:32 - Fyrdraca: in light of the fact that you like evidence-based analysis, let's look at the numbers and see why the turn was played incorrectly from the start
2018-03-11 19:15:24 - Fyrdraca: yellow decided to attack 10v4,3 (O12); 7v3 (G08), 7v3 (R10), 8v4 (I03), 4v2 (E10), and 6v1,1,1 (K08)
2018-03-11 19:18:13 - Fyrdraca: 10v4,3 is 67.04%; 7v3 is 85.69%; 8v4 is 83.37%; 4v2 is 65.59%; and 6v1,1,1 is 67.75%
2018-03-11 19:19:01 - Fyrdraca: thus, the odds of each of those attacks being successful is 18.24%
2018-03-11 19:20:11 - Fyrdraca: thus, dropping in order to attack on 6 different fronts with only 18.24% odds of success shows one of two things
2018-03-11 19:21:38 - Fyrdraca: either you don't know the statistics behind your rolls and assume success much more often than you should, or you felt the need to make all of those attacks
2018-03-11 19:23:23 - Fyrdraca: if the former, then it explains why you are complaining about failing in only 2/6 spots (which even if we take out the odds for 4v2 and 6v1,1,1 you were only 41.04% to be successful on the other 4)
2018-03-11 19:23:54 - Fyrdraca: and if the latter (being that you felt the need to make all of those attacks, then your strategy was clearly wrong
2018-03-11 19:24:45 - Fyrdraca: based on how this game has gone so far, my judgment would lean toward a mix of both not understanding statistics and not fully grasping how to play this specific game
2018-03-11 19:26:29 - Fyrdraca: the fact that you thought defending your +5 at only 85.69% odds was good enough instead of increasing those odds and not attacking a +1 of ours is truly mindboggling
2018-03-11 19:26:56 - Fyrdraca: but I'll leave the stats alone in case it is too much math for you to understand
2018-03-11 19:29:01 - Fyrdraca: but don't forget yellow also successfully won a 4v3 attack, which is only 47% odds of success
2018-03-11 19:30:09 - Fyrdraca: I also find it funny that you wrote this just a few days ago
2018-03-11 19:30:15 - Fyrdraca: 2018-03-07 08:12:54 - josko.ri: You will blame dice later on for your lower strategy here, but no my friend you are not winning this one.
2018-03-11 19:30:32 - Fyrdraca: and now here you are complaining about the exact same thing you said we would complain about
2018-03-11 19:31:13 - Fyrdraca: not to mention the fact that the most classless thing someone could do is make a comment about guaranteeing a win in both this Hive dubs game and the other Hive quads game without the games having even started
2018-03-11 19:33:19 - Fyrdraca: particularly when you are playing against very solid teams and when one game (Hive dubs with these settings) you had never played before
2018-03-11 19:34:18 - Fyrdraca: and Astoriana had only played 3 prior games, but the last was over 5.5 years ago
2018-03-11 19:36:36 - Fyrdraca: and you're playing opponents who each have over 15 recent games on this map
2018-03-11 21:18:13 - Fyrdraca: I should also say that I am not saying this to unfairly criticize your play for this game, but as a response to show that you have proven to use certain pieces of information to further the argument you are trying to make while omitting parts that detract
2018-03-11 21:18:35 - Fyrdraca: and oppose your point of view
2018-03-11 21:20:07 - Fyrdraca: plus, most of us play this game for fun and enjoyment, and there is truly no reason to lambaste people and accuse them of cheating/whining when you don't have the full picture of what someone's real life actually looks like
2018-03-11 21:33:24 - rockfist: Never tell me the odds
2018-03-12 00:55:48 - josko.ri: tldr
2018-03-12 01:38:44 - Fyrdraca: That's fine. tldr would be you've no right to complain about dice because you tried to do too much
2018-03-12 01:39:20 - Fyrdraca: And stop making this game unenjoyable for people. You're turning into PaP
2018-03-12 01:40:45 - Fyrdraca: Also funny that you of all people are complaining about someone else's long post
2018-03-12 09:51:41 - Conchobar: Lolz. Well I did read it all and thoroughly enjoyed it despite being bamboozled by all them statistics, which is nothing new tbh.
2018-03-12 09:55:46 - Conchobar: While my talents lie elsewhere, Fyrd & JP are number wizards, and you really could show a bit of class and respect, josko. There is nothing wrong with recognizing and complimenting a valiant opponent.
2018-03-12 10:01:21 - Conchobar: In fact, doing so only makes victories sweeter and defeats less painful. So honestly, win or lose, I genuinely hope that the main positive to emerge from CL9 will be something of an attitude adjustment for you, good sir.
2018-03-12 10:04:08 - Conchobar: Confidence and competitiveness are good things, but arrogance and hypocrisy are not. Just a little friendly advice. ;) And now I hope we can put all of this ugliness behind us and move on... :)
2018-03-12 12:19:44 - Fyrdraca: 61% for all to be successful, over 80% each attack
2018-03-12 12:20:25 - Fyrdraca: Oops must've had the button unchecked
2018-03-17 08:52:42 - Astoriana: good game team 1, well played
2018-03-17 11:15:30 - JPlo64: good game guys
2018-03-17 17:26:54 - josko.ri: gg
2018-03-17 17:58:51 - Fyrdraca: gg Josko and Astoriana
2018-03-17 17:58:57 - Fyrdraca: Was a good fight!
2018-03-18 23:52:22 - Extreme Ways: they might be numbers people
2018-03-18 23:52:32 - Extreme Ways: but 4v3 is not 47%
2018-03-18 23:52:40 - Extreme Ways: unless you roll 1v2 and the like, then it is
2018-03-18 23:52:45 - Extreme Ways: in most scenarios 4v3 is 31%
2018-03-18 23:52:57 - Extreme Ways: that is, rolling 2-0 and then either 1-0 or 0-1 then 1-0
2018-03-18 23:53:04 - Extreme Ways: one of my biggest pet peeves on CC
2018-03-19 01:14:59 - Fyrdraca: In a game like this specific one, you often do roll completely out due to settings
2018-03-19 01:15:21 - Fyrdraca: But sure, I'd agree that 4v3 is less than 47% in most cases
2018-03-19 01:15:40 - Fyrdraca: Further proves my point that Josko hadn't a reason to complain about their dice that turn
2018-03-19 17:29:32 - pconnolly365: Nice win FOED. What are the odds eh!
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