Statistics

Players
Team1
r:random21	4.9	0	0	0
g:davekettering	4.9	0	0	0
b:fishydance	4.9	0	0	0
y:All Black Rugby	4.9	0	0	0
Team2
p:FreeFalling123	4.8	48	107	30
c:nibotha	4.7	23	292	13
o:jaybrake	4.7	51	147	42
s:Mojo2222	4.8	92	257	78

Game #17122839: 8 Players, Quadruples, No Spoils, Sequential, Adjacent, Fog, Trench
Clans Tournament: 2016 [CL8] Premier Division
Label: S&M vs TOP, S&M Home

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2017-01-12 09:29:47 - Game has been initialized
2017-03-17 05:12:51 - Mojo2222 eliminated All Black Rugby from the game
2017-03-17 05:13:02 - Mojo2222 eliminated davekettering from the game
2017-03-18 05:42:57 - FreeFalling123 eliminated fishydance from the game
2017-03-19 13:12:35 - nibotha eliminated random21 from the game
2017-03-19 13:12:35 - FreeFalling123, nibotha, jaybrake, Mojo2222 won the game
2017-03-19 13:12:35 - random21 lost 29 points
2017-03-19 13:12:35 - davekettering lost 29 points
2017-03-19 13:12:35 - fishydance lost 29 points
2017-03-19 13:12:35 - All Black Rugby lost 29 points
2017-03-19 13:12:35 - FreeFalling123 gained 29 points
2017-03-19 13:12:35 - nibotha gained 29 points
2017-03-19 13:12:35 - jaybrake gained 29 points
2017-03-19 13:12:35 - Mojo2222 gained 29 points

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2017-01-15 07:21:04 - josko.ri: FYI nibotha normally played his turn in game 17129900 less than 3 hours before you sat for him/her in this game
2017-01-15 07:22:00 - josko.ri: Why did nibotha not play his turn at this game at that time, but he left the turn for you to be sat? Doing that is against sitting rules
2017-01-15 07:22:58 - josko.ri: And this is already happening in 3Rd different game in this war, that opening turns are played by sitter who is strategy leader of the team instead of by original player
2017-01-15 07:26:11 - josko.ri: It seems I found a way how TOP is so successful. Opening turns in your games are all played by team leader instead of original player who might make lower strategical move if played by himself
2017-01-15 07:30:33 - josko.ri: Or for example in game 17126539 and several other games nibotha normally played his turn just 2 hours before you sat for him in this game. 2 hours before he had time to play about 10 turns in other games yet he didn't take his turn in this game and...
2017-01-15 07:31:56 - josko.ri: ... Intentionally left it to team leader freefalling to sit for him. This is against clan sitting rules because nibotha was obviously available to play the turn by himself yet he intentionally left it to freefalling to sit
2017-01-16 06:02:48 - PaulatPeace: Josko....you're beginning to piss me off brother! Do not question our Honor & Integrity!!! You know not of which you speak!
2017-01-16 06:04:42 - PaulatPeace: Molan Labe Omegas!
2017-01-16 13:47:36 - jaybrake: FF for jb... time is low
2017-01-16 16:22:00 - josko.ri: it seems intwentionally leaving turns to be played by sitter who is more experienced on given map is continuing to be used in your clan.
2017-01-16 16:22:26 - josko.ri: jaybrake normally played his turn in game 17093532 while he could also play the turn in this game, yet he left the turn in this game to be played by sitter
2017-01-16 20:28:46 - random21: um k this is getting kinda suspicious. josko has done some looking. lets figure this out
2017-01-16 20:29:35 - random21: and its more than just this game
2017-01-18 06:23:04 - josko.ri: just double checking, was Mojo2222 turn played by himself or by sitter? I see it was played in lat 2 hours of the turn, that is why I am suspicious.
2017-01-18 23:17:20 - nibotha: josko.ri-can you kindly stop posting on my wall and in my games about this (non) issue-thanks.
2017-01-19 04:31:35 - FreeFalling123: yeah seriously, I'm refusing to play you guys with shit like this going on
2017-01-19 04:33:01 - FreeFalling123: your drop here was absolute shit here so if this game gets remade because I took a turn for a dude at under an hour I'm going on a hiatus
2017-01-19 11:28:06 - random21: I might have more or less to say. But right after josko brought this up... you had sat for someone. And right after... you sat for someone again?
2017-01-19 11:29:23 - random21: If our drop is so bad... maybe you could just not have the best player taking all the turns? It should be easy to have everyone play there turns. I'll leave it to those who look into these things. Are you saying it isn't at all weird that you played 3
2017-01-19 11:29:40 - random21: of the first 4 turns... if in fact it was possible for others to play ... but they left you to take?
2017-01-23 21:08:58 - Lindax: This game will not count for CL8. It will be remade and replayed.
2017-01-24 01:35:24 - FreeFalling123: Good luck in the rematch guys... hope you got what you wanted
2017-01-24 02:27:48 - Mojo2222: Absolutely ridiculous.
2017-01-24 03:20:40 - IcePack: The decision has been appealed, and will be under review. Continue to play until a final decision on the appeal has been processed.
2017-01-24 13:28:32 - fishydance: Okay.. took my turn and will continue playing until I hear otherwise
2017-01-24 22:08:10 - IcePack: Final appeal was reviewed. The game will be remade per the original ruling. Thanks
2017-01-25 01:05:04 - Mojo2222: Man, not even sure what to say. Best of luck to you all.
2017-02-11 09:21:53 - fishydance: davekettering for fishy.... 1 hour remaining
2017-02-21 06:15:43 - FreeFalling123: GG guys, sorry for sitting for my partners. Next game I will let the time expire, so we can have a fair fight ;)
2017-02-21 06:18:07 - FreeFalling123: I hope you guys feel like you've won this set honorably, as you have also sat for your teammate in 2 occasions in the first 3 rounds in the remake game, which we have asked the Clan team for where the discretions were found...
2017-02-21 11:48:44 - josko.ri: We sat 2 turns in 3 rounds, while you sat 2 turns in 1 round, and furthermore in opening round. I guess your players are aware that they are away from the site when game starts, no?
2017-02-21 11:49:41 - josko.ri: but fishydance played this game 2 weeks later than scheduled because of YOUR mistake. 2 weeks later she became busy in real life and we excluded her from new games afterwards, but when the game originaly started she was not busy
2017-02-21 11:50:53 - josko.ri: as can be seen, in this game in opening rounds her turns were played by herself. Later she became busy and often did not log in for more than 24 consecutive hours. THAT is definition of reasons for when sitting is allowed.
2017-02-21 11:51:26 - josko.ri: Your reasons in contrary were to gain strategical advantage because lower player intentionally left the turn to be played by better player, while he had chance to play the turn by himself earlier
2017-02-22 04:59:25 - FreeFalling123: Fishy dance also left her moves to be played by better player by your standard of "left move for sitter." Although, we had a high chance of missing both moves that we sat, you guys were prepared to watch for Fishy's moves as you expected her misses...
2017-02-22 05:00:47 - FreeFalling123: If you are worried that we did our sitting during the most important time of the game, what about rounds 2 and 3? Now, those turns are all right to sit for because the game is in an even MORE important time to sit for players?
2017-02-22 05:01:47 - FreeFalling123: Also, it was YOUR clans mistake to ask for the game to be remade. We had no intentions of remaking a game due to YOUR leaders decision to push the game to be remade, due to unfair tacitcal advantages. Now we are asking for a remake for the same reason...
2017-02-22 16:20:31 - random21: The conversation is over free falling. What I read you writing is plain false. Fishy dance also left her moves to be played by a better player? Are you crazy? This is precisely why you don't need a rematch.
2017-02-22 16:21:56 - random21: The things you are saying are plain false. The other conversation in the other game I'm done with. And we are done with this conversation too. You can ignore what we say it doesn't matter. I'm done with the conversation. The ruling is over.
2017-02-23 06:22:44 - FreeFalling123: Whatever man. Your clan's double standrds are lame. It's cheating when I sit for 2 moves or it is tactical advantage, but when you guys do it, there is no tactical advantage and there is no manipulation.Your player made no attempt to take her move in 24hr
2017-02-23 06:24:59 - FreeFalling123: Because a mod makes a ruling does not mean it was just. In fact, KA was right about a lot of sitting oging on, but that didn't mean that it was in clan games. ICE / Lind's ruling was based on COMMON SENSE that wasn't so common and it's unfair.
2017-02-23 06:26:38 - FreeFalling123: If sitting for two turns constitutes a remake at a crucial point of the game, then you guys have also done this. If we have committed excessive sitting in comparison to other clans, then make a rule about sitting and we will follow it. There are no rules!
2017-02-23 06:27:44 - FreeFalling123: There is no way in hell I am accepting this remake if it is done so because of a moderators COMMON SENSE... KA did not rule this game obsolete, the mod who did it was solely making the ruling to screw us over
2017-02-23 12:04:05 - fishydance: FreeFalling - you can debate rulling here all day but it won't change anything. If you feeling ruling is wrong take and can't accept it, take up a grievance with KA over it.
2017-02-23 12:04:58 - fishydance: Pull together all the facts that support your viewpoint and present them.
2017-02-23 12:09:42 - fishydance: On that note, I'll end my comments as well, but I do have one more thing to say ... good game.
2017-02-26 23:44:12 - nibotha: "good game"
2017-02-26 23:45:08 - nibotha: Who's the "better player"
2017-02-26 23:45:18 - nibotha: lol
2017-03-15 11:57:39 - nibotha: Antcowan for nibotha time low

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