Statistics

Players
Team1
r:random21	4.9	0	0	0
g:davekettering	4.9	0	0	0
Team2
b:GoranZ	4.9	1	28	3
y:rcfritz	4.9	39	189	36

Game #16850509: 4 Players, Doubles, No Spoils, Sequential, Chained, Fog
Clans Tournament: 2016 [Aug] [CC6] S&M vs FALL
Label: S&M Round Two Home Games, FOW rules apply

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2016-09-17 17:30:03 - Game has been initialized
2016-10-26 00:02:59 - rcfritz eliminated davekettering from the game
2016-10-28 01:17:54 - rcfritz eliminated random21 from the game
2016-10-28 01:17:54 - GoranZ, rcfritz won the game
2016-10-28 01:17:54 - random21 lost 26 points
2016-10-28 01:17:54 - davekettering lost 26 points
2016-10-28 01:17:54 - GoranZ gained 26 points
2016-10-28 01:17:54 - rcfritz gained 26 points

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2016-10-25 01:06:37 - random21: is a great game. you speaking for goranz means nothing. i think most people can look at what he wrote and come to the right interpretation
2016-10-25 01:08:42 - GoranZ: green out of curiosity, why you didnt bombarded red's HG castle... that would had saved you some valuable resourcess
2016-10-25 01:09:03 - random21: when you get all the mixed sets in a flat rate, and there is literally nothing your opponents get going for them. don't say great game. a simple gg would suffice
2016-10-25 01:09:40 - random21: goranz. the game is over. pretty sure I've got you pegged
2016-10-25 01:09:50 - random21: comments at this point are irrelevant
2016-10-25 01:11:26 - random21: rcfritz your clan mates are not to clever. tell me goranz... if dave takes the king... how does bombarding hg castle save us resources?
2016-10-25 01:11:57 - random21: i like how you critique game play of an already decided game. rcfritz? am i misreading this on goranz part as well? he seems like a tool
2016-10-25 01:12:24 - random21: as does the attitude of your clan. but any assistance you can give them is welcome
2016-10-25 01:37:13 - GoranZ: but you took the king... he went threw the admiral to take it out
2016-10-25 01:37:27 - GoranZ: from you
2016-10-25 02:02:44 - rousseau72: interesting to read the chat thread. I can see very often how chat does not serve to communicate well people's intentions. I came in to cheer our side and I had not bad intention when I did so
2016-10-25 02:03:46 - rousseau72: We know we are leading but that it was not a certain win. I have seen many a game where an upset is pulled off. When this is one of the deciding games - you do cheer even if you are ahead
2016-10-25 03:01:32 - rcfritz: random, your VERY first communication with us was to say gg and then immediately to diminish the impending result by your bad starting postion (which is arguable). To me, that is far more smug thing to do than to say Great Game (respectfully) after
2016-10-25 03:03:31 - rcfritz: defeating an opponent, even after good card sets, especially given the friendly banter of the common chat. The comment did not sit well with us. After we had horredous dice with the Field Marshall stack after Dave took HI area, Goran decided to argue
2016-10-25 03:04:26 - rcfritz: back with you about the complaint. You did try to end the argument on a positive note, however, before doing so you detailed mistakes you thought we made. I believe this has fueled Goran's inqueries, as we too feel we have noticed errors. This is in no
2016-10-25 03:04:40 - rcfritz: way an excuse for Goran's instigation, but I certainly don't think you are an innoncent bystander unfairly subject to Goran's rant. Furthermore, using this situation and the feeble complaint from the Eurasia game to slander our entire clan is a poor extr
2016-10-25 03:05:18 - rcfritz: extrapolation and most inappropriate. I hope that this can be attributed to venting your anger in the moment, instigated by Goran, and you acknowledge the mistake.
2016-10-25 04:05:50 - rcfritz: I have enjoyed playing this match, and every other match with your mates, and assume this quarrel is a fluke.
2016-10-25 04:08:05 - random21: oh please. you read into complaints way to much. lets get one thing straight as if you guys try to write off a bad start. if you want to actually talk strategy lets do it. HA on this map is a bad start
2016-10-25 04:11:25 - random21: I have never read into a game, where an opponent got HA start, and pointed out the HA start as a "complaint". its actually in my mind legitimate. especially when it the game involved HA player being bombarded. did we ever "complain" about our bad dice
2016-10-25 04:11:51 - random21: at the start of the game? we hardly took any territories giving us additional troops at start. there was no complaint in this game. there were facts
2016-10-25 04:12:31 - random21: to be honest, every time I play this game and catch opponents in HA... its an advantage. and i certainly don't downplay its effects
2016-10-25 04:13:12 - random21: you think its arguable whether this drop was in your favour? tell me rcfritz with an HB drop why didn't you hit T2 ? why not bombard hc and hd instead of ha hj... is there some advantage maybe in catching someone in ha?
2016-10-25 04:15:56 - random21: on my part my VERY FIRST comment was actual fact. its not a complaint. HA is weak. I'm not pointing out that id rather have another starting point. its simply matter of factly the way this game went there were consequences from the drop. and matter of
2016-10-25 04:16:49 - random21: factly, i think its good we lasted as far as we did. you think you played this well where i need to congratulate you on taking t1 and bombarding us? and then using HI to bombard hj? is there really something in this game that you felt up until that point
2016-10-25 04:16:56 - random21: made it a contested game?
2016-10-25 04:18:09 - random21: how is it your side is unwilling to see the advantage you had the basic whole way through?
2016-10-25 04:19:02 - random21: when i play people in maps I'm good at, and they ask questions I'm pretty frank with them. if they made a mistake. if they tried doing things they shouldn't have. arguably the worst thing about kc2 is HA... and i would be upfront to any player i played
2016-10-25 04:21:16 - random21: if you want to sit there, and say ha was a fine start i don't have to play along with you. i can readily tell people in u s a 2.1 one of my best maps whether a person has a good drop or bad. i can tell them what to work for or not to work for. but i
2016-10-25 04:22:45 - random21: don't play these childish games. if a u s a game is decided in less than 10 rounds things could have been played better. one side had something not go right. they either used bad strategy or had dice fails. I'm not going to pretend other wise. because
2016-10-25 04:23:36 - random21: good u s a games can go far longer without being decided. why you guys are so stuck on an obvious point of HA and aren't admitting to i don't take in a good light.
2016-10-25 04:24:30 - random21: if i am leading in a game... i have no problem telling my opponents i am leading, or if we're tied, or if one is behind? so what is the big deal here?
2016-10-25 04:26:22 - random21: blues first comment came at round 19... and it was a dice comment. so dice come and go over the course of the game. but the drop does not. its a pretty good determiner of the way the entire game goes. when i brought up how the game went FIRST i didn't
2016-10-25 04:28:21 - random21: mention how your team took 3. we took 1. your team took 3, our team 2, your team3, ours 2, yours 2, BL A BLA BLA BLA b la
2016-10-25 04:29:33 - random21: our dice clearly starting off worse. but then you bring up half way through, when you've been leading... how we are getting good dice to keep us in? you point out how you had bad dice against a field marshall... poor babies. so you waited until round 19
2016-10-25 04:29:41 - random21: to get some bad dice in our game? lucky you
2016-10-25 04:34:31 - random21: i still have a pretty dim view of you. and from what i can surmise your clan. but ill grant some people in your clan i have not played. and i do not know.
2016-10-25 04:37:18 - random21: 2016-10-15 02:05:36 - GoranZ: playing style? On this map you dont have a playing style, you only have good dice, and crocodile tears about 'bad' starting location... I guess you like to have 4 good castles :D
2016-10-25 04:37:31 - random21: for future reference. tell me how i should read this coment
2016-10-25 04:38:44 - random21: this tells me goranz is a moron. pls explain why this is not the case. we don't have a play style? as in kc2 doesn't require a playing style? or we personally don't? aside from our "good dice" and we have crocodile tears? i don't even understand this...
2016-10-25 04:38:55 - random21: but it doesn't exactly sound positive does it rcfritz?
2016-10-25 04:40:24 - random21: and sure... i like to have 4 good castles, who doesn't? in kc2 players there is no secret about HA. and if you want to play deft and dumb about it go ahead. I've discussed with plenty. and had plenty of games where HA is pointed out and agreed to by both
2016-10-25 04:41:25 - random21: sides. as for our eurasia game. i brought up my concerns and no one replied. i think i brought up my concern in the game about how them saying great game was taken by me. no one in that team stepped up to explain or c ontinue the conversation
2016-10-25 04:42:18 - random21: there is nothing respectful about it. don't kid yourself rcfritz. not demonstrably. for all i know... they actually thought it was a good game. once i pointed out the cards i didn't hear any more from them about what a great game it was. because on our
2016-10-25 04:42:30 - random21: our side those comments mean something. so maybe your clan does have something to think about
2016-10-25 04:43:58 - random21: i only brought up mistakes after goranz moronic comment
2016-10-25 04:45:18 - random21: and when you first came in... what you said looks quite frankly like a half ass attempt of ... lying? or mending? not goranz first language... seems to speak it well enough. and he never clarified anything. he just let you. is he 12?
2016-10-25 04:45:50 - random21: i can see he is from macedonia. but what he writes stands.
2016-10-25 23:26:25 - davekettering: random21
2016-10-28 01:17:44 - rcfritz: gg

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