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The Soviet Union [Quenched]

Postby pepperonibread on Mon Oct 08, 2007 6:32 am

Current Map [full details pg. 38]:

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Area: The Former USSR
# of Territories: 53
# of Continents: 8
Description: A nearly Classic-style map. Two notes, the territory Moscow gives a bonus of one and always starts neutral, and the Arctic Islands continent gives no bonus.
Current Discussion: None.

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   <title>The Soviet Union</title>
   <smallwidth>600</smallwidth>
   <smallheight>408</smallheight>
   <largewidth>800</largewidth>
   <largeheight>544</largeheight>
   <filetype>jpg</filetype>
   
   <continent>
      <name>Far East</name>
      <bonus>2</bonus>
      <components>
         <territory>Chukotka</territory>
         <territory>Magadan</territory>
         <territory>Koryak</territory>
         <territory>Kamchatka</territory> 
      </components>
   </continent>
   
   <continent>
      <name>European Russia</name>
      <bonus>6</bonus>
      <components>
         <territory>Karelia</territory>
         <territory>Leningrad</territory>
         <territory>Arkhangelsk</territory>
         <territory>Komi</territory>
         <territory>Moscow</territory>
         <territory>Perm</territory>
         <territory>Tatarstan</territory>
         <territory>Stalingrad</territory>
         <territory>Orenburg</territory>
         <territory>Caucasus</territory>
      </components>
   </continent>

   <continent>
      <name>Yakutia</name>
      <bonus>3</bonus>
      <components>
         <territory>Srednekolymsk</territory>
         <territory>Mirny</territory>
         <territory>Verkhoyansk</territory>
         <territory>Yakutsk</territory>
         <territory>Neryungri</territory>
      </components>
   </continent>

   <continent>
      <name>Western Siberia</name>
      <bonus>7</bonus>
      <components>
         <territory>Taymyr</territory>
         <territory>Yamalia</territory>
         <territory>Evenkia</territory>
         <territory>Khanty-Mansi</territory>
         <territory>Sverdlovsk</territory>
         <territory>Turukhansk</territory>
         <territory>Tomsk</territory>
         <territory>Krasnoyarsk</territory>
         <territory>Altai</territory>
         <territory>Tuva</territory>
      </components>
   </continent>

   <continent>
      <name>Kazakhstan</name>
      <bonus>3</bonus>
      <components>
         <territory>Aktyubinsk</territory>
         <territory>Tselinograd</territory>
         <territory>Karaganda</territory>
         <territory>Baikonur</territory>
         <territory>Alma-Ata</territory>
      </components>
   </continent>

   <continent>
      <name>Southern Siberia</name>
      <bonus>4</bonus>
      <components>
         <territory>Okhotsk</territory>
         <territory>Irkutsk</territory>
         <territory>Amur</territory>
         <territory>Sakhalin</territory>
         <territory>Buryatia</territory>
         <territory>Chita</territory>
         <territory>Khabarovsk</territory>
         <territory>Primorsky</territory>
      </components>
   </continent>

   <continent>
      <name>Central Asia</name>
      <bonus>2</bonus>
      <components>
         <territory>Turkmenistan</territory>
         <territory>Uzbekistan</territory>
         <territory>Kirghizia</territory>
         <territory>Tajikistan</territory>
      </components>
   </continent>

   <continent>
      <name>Western Republics</name>
      <bonus>2</bonus>
      <components>
         <territory>Baltics</territory>
         <territory>Byelorussia</territory>
         <territory>Lvov</territory>
         <territory>Kiev</territory>
      </components>
   </continent>

   <continent>
      <name>Moscow</name>
      <bonus>1</bonus>
      <components>
         <territory>Moscow</territory>
      </components>
   </continent>

   <territory>
      <name>Chukotka</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Srednekolymsk</border>
         <border>Magadan</border>
         <border>Koryak</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>525</smallx>
         <smally>147</smally>
         <largex>705</largex>
         <largey>188</largey>
      </coordinates>
   </territory>

   <territory>
      <name>Magadan</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Srednekolymsk</border>
         <border>Okhotsk</border>
         <border>Chukotka</border>
         <border>Koryak</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>502</smallx>
         <smally>214</smally>
         <largex>670</largex>
         <largey>276</largey>
      </coordinates>
   </territory>

   <territory>
      <name>Koryak</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Magadan</border>
         <border>Chukotka</border>
         <border>Kamchatka</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>555</smallx>
         <smally>180</smally>
         <largex>736</largex>
         <largey>235</largey>
      </coordinates>
   </territory>

   <territory>
      <name>Kamchatka</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Koryak</border>
         <border>Sakhalin</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>566</smallx>
         <smally>229</smally>
         <largex>752</largex>
         <largey>295</largey>
      </coordinates>
   </territory>

   <territory>
      <name>Karelia</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Leningrad</border>
         <border>Arkhangelsk</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>163</smallx>
         <smally>111</smally>
         <largex>212</largex>
         <largey>144</largey>
      </coordinates>
   </territory>

   <territory>
      <name>Leningrad</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Byelorussia</border>
         <border>Baltics</border>
         <border>Moscow</border>
         <border>Tatarstan</border>
         <border>Perm</border>
         <border>Arkhangelsk</border>
         <border>Karelia</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>120</smallx>
         <smally>149</smally>
         <largex>155</largex>
         <largey>189</largey>
      </coordinates>
   </territory>

   <territory>
      <name>Arkhangelsk</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Leningrad</border>
         <border>Perm</border>
         <border>Karelia</border>
         <border>Komi</border>
         <border>Novaya Zemlya</border>
         <border>Yamalia</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>161</smallx>
         <smally>153</smally>
         <largex>217</largex>
         <largey>195</largey>
      </coordinates>
   </territory>

   <territory>
      <name>Komi</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Perm</border>
         <border>Arkhangelsk</border>
      </borders>
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         <smally>180</smally>
         <largex>252</largex>
         <largey>232</largey>
      </coordinates>
   </territory>

   <territory>
      <name>Moscow</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Kiev</border>
         <border>Stalingrad</border>
         <border>Leningrad</border>
         <border>Tatarstan</border>
         <border>Orenburg</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>91</smallx>
         <smally>167</smally>
         <largex>124</largex>
         <largey>215</largey>
      </coordinates>
      <neutral>3</neutral>
   </territory>

   <territory>
      <name>Perm</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Tatarstan</border>
         <border>Leningrad</border>
         <border>Orenburg</border>
         <border>Arkhangelsk</border>
         <border>Komi</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>179</smallx>
         <smally>222</smally>
         <largex>241</largex>
         <largey>287</largey>
      </coordinates>
   </territory>

   <territory>
      <name>Tatarstan</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Moscow</border>
         <border>Leningrad</border>
         <border>Orenburg</border>
         <border>Perm</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>128</smallx>
         <smally>197</smally>
         <largex>172</largex>
         <largey>256</largey>
      </coordinates>
   </territory>

   <territory>
      <name>Stalingrad</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Caucasus</border>
         <border>Kiev</border>
         <border>Moscow</border>
         <border>Aktyubinsk</border>
         <border>Orenburg</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>66</smallx>
         <smally>224</smally>
         <largex>88</largex>
         <largey>292</largey>
      </coordinates>
   </territory>

   <territory>
      <name>Orenburg</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Stalingrad</border>
         <border>Moscow</border>
         <border>Aktyubinsk</border>
         <border>Tatarstan</border>
         <border>Perm</border>
         <border>Tselinograd</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>147</smallx>
         <smally>248</smally>
         <largex>197</largex>
         <largey>325</largey>
      </coordinates>
   </territory>

   <territory>
      <name>Caucasus</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Stalingrad</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>28</smallx>
         <smally>265</smally>
         <largex>43</largex>
         <largey>346</largey>
      </coordinates>
   </territory>

   <territory>
      <name>Srednekolymsk</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Verkhoyansk</border>
         <border>New Siberian Islands</border>
         <border>Yakutsk</border>
         <border>Magadan</border>
         <border>Chukotka</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>465</smallx>
         <smally>184</smally>
         <largex>621</largex>
         <largey>236</largey>
      </coordinates>
   </territory>

   <territory>
      <name>Mirny</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Evenkia</border>
         <border>Irkutsk</border>
         <border>Verkhoyansk</border>
         <border>Yakutsk</border>
         <border>Neryungri</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>366</smallx>
         <smally>226</smally>
         <largex>492</largex>
         <largey>292</largey>
      </coordinates>
   </territory>

   <territory>
      <name>Verkhoyansk</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Mirny</border>
         <border>New Siberian Islands</border>
         <border>Yakutsk</border>
         <border>Srednekolymsk</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>406</smallx>
         <smally>194</smally>
         <largex>544</largex>
         <largey>252</largey>
      </coordinates>
   </territory>

   <territory>
      <name>Yakutsk</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Mirny</border>
         <border>Verkhoyansk</border>
         <border>Neryungri</border>
         <border>Srednekolymsk</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>442</smallx>
         <smally>244</smally>
         <largex>590</largex>
         <largey>317</largey>
      </coordinates>
   </territory>

   <territory>
      <name>Neryungri</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Irkutsk</border>
         <border>Mirny</border>
         <border>Yakutsk</border>
         <border>Amur</border>
         <border>Okhotsk</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>432</smallx>
         <smally>278</smally>
         <largex>575</largex>
         <largey>363</largey>
      </coordinates>
   </territory>

   <territory>
      <name>Taymyr</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Yamalia</border>
         <border>Turukhansk</border>
         <border>Evenkia</border>
         <border>Severnaya Zemlya</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>328</smallx>
         <smally>169</smally>
         <largex>440</largex>
         <largey>219</largey>
      </coordinates>
   </territory>

   <territory>
      <name>Yamalia</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Arkhangelsk</border>
         <border>Khanty-Mansi</border>
         <border>Turukhansk</border>
         <border>Taymyr</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>261</smallx>
         <smally>207</smally>
         <largex>349</largex>
         <largey>267</largey>
      </coordinates>
   </territory>

   <territory>
      <name>Evenkia</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Turukhansk</border>
         <border>Krasnoyarsk</border>
         <border>Irkutsk</border>
         <border>Taymyr</border>
         <border>Mirny</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>326</smallx>
         <smally>237</smally>
         <largex>437</largex>
         <largey>310</largey>
      </coordinates>
   </territory>

   <territory>
      <name>Khanty-Mansi</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Yamalia</border>
         <border>Sverdlovsk</border>
         <border>Tomsk</border>
         <border>Turukhansk</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>219</smallx>
         <smally>213</smally>
         <largex>294</largex>
         <largey>277</largey>
      </coordinates>
   </territory>

   <territory>
      <name>Sverdlovsk</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Tselinograd</border>
         <border>Khanty-Mansi</border>
         <border>Altai</border>
         <border>Tomsk</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>212</smallx>
         <smally>250</smally>
         <largex>285</largex>
         <largey>325</largey>
      </coordinates>
   </territory>

   <territory>
      <name>Turukhansk</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Yamalia</border>
         <border>Khanty-Mansi</border>
         <border>Tomsk</border>
         <border>Krasnoyarsk</border>
         <border>Evenkia</border>
         <border>Taymyr</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>288</smallx>
         <smally>242</smally>
         <largex>385</largex>
         <largey>316</largey>
      </coordinates>
   </territory>

   <territory>
      <name>Tomsk</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Khanty-Mansi</border>
         <border>Sverdlovsk</border>
         <border>Altai</border>
         <border>Krasnoyarsk</border>
         <border>Turukhansk</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>249</smallx>
         <smally>260</smally>
         <largex>334</largex>
         <largey>340</largey>
      </coordinates>
   </territory>

   <territory>
      <name>Krasnoyarsk</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Tomsk</border>
         <border>Altai</border>
         <border>Irkutsk</border>
         <border>Evenkia</border>
         <border>Turukhansk</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>299</smallx>
         <smally>283</smally>
         <largex>398</largex>
         <largey>370</largey>
      </coordinates>
   </territory>

   <territory>
      <name>Altai</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Tuva</border>
         <border>Alma-Ata</border>
         <border>Tselinograd</border>
         <border>Sverdlovsk</border>
         <border>Tomsk</border>
         <border>Krasnoyarsk</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>238</smallx>
         <smally>294</smally>
         <largex>318</largex>
         <largey>386</largey>
      </coordinates>
   </territory>

   <territory>
      <name>Tuva</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Alma-Ata</border>
         <border>Altai</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>294</smallx>
         <smally>340</smally>
         <largex>393</largex>
         <largey>447</largey>
      </coordinates>
   </territory>

   <territory>
      <name>Aktyubinsk</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Stalingrad</border>
         <border>Orenburg</border>
         <border>Tselinograd</border>
         <border>Karaganda</border>
         <border>Baikonur</border>
         <border>Uzbekistan</border>
         <border>Turkmenistan</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>115</smallx>
         <smally>263</smally>
         <largex>156</largex>
         <largey>344</largey>
      </coordinates>
   </territory>

   <territory>
      <name>Tselinograd</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Aktyubinsk</border>
         <border>Orenburg</border>
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      <name>Sakhalin</name>
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      <name>Khabarovsk</name>
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      <name>Turkmenistan</name>
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      <name>Uzbekistan</name>
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         <border>Turkmenistan</border>
         <border>Baikonur</border>
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      <name>Kirghizia</name>
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      <name>Lvov</name>
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      <name>Kiev</name>
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      <name>Novaya Zemlya</name>
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Well, I'm just gonna put it out here:

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Some things to think about:
-Is the map too dark (my Canada map was, and I made this the same style)?
-Title? Not sure exactly how to arrange it.
-Do the rivers/mountains look good?
-Font? (not the territory names, the Russian-style stuff) Too much?

Besides that, just comment on anything, bonuses, gameplay, names, accuracy or graphics.
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Postby yeti_c on Mon Oct 08, 2007 7:20 am

Liking it already...

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Postby nagerous on Mon Oct 08, 2007 7:30 am

Agreed, its already well developed in my view :P
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Postby Skittles! on Mon Oct 08, 2007 7:36 am

nagerous wrote:Agreed, its already well developed in my view :P

QFT

And finally someone attempted to do this. It's great.

I like the texture, the darkness, the rivers.. Not too fond of the mountains, you can't really see them
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Postby Coleman on Mon Oct 08, 2007 7:51 am

I have 0 complaints/suggestions. :shock:

Small map?
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Postby oaktown on Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:48 am

a very nice first map. Haven't looked at gameplay at all yet, but my visual complaints are few and minor; for instance, the mountains actually look like mountains (which is great and something most mapmakers can't achieve around here) but they may actually be too realistic for a map that doesn't try to achieve realism in any other aspect.

do the rivers in russia really not empty into anything?
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Postby gimil on Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:23 am

I have 2 minor graphics complaints.

The light side ofthe mountains is 2 white a little more transparency wouldnt hurt. And i feel that hte rivers should be hte same color as the sea, but thats jsut a matter of personal taste i think. maybe a small 1-2 pixal line should be added around te rivers as well to help them fit in a little better. again may jsut be personl taste.

regardless this is a solid 1st draft and i expect it to move quickly throught hte founry.
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Postby tim02 on Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:28 am

looks sweet =D>
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Postby mibi on Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:55 am

nice map. but it needs more soviet flavor besides the font and type.
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Postby Wisse on Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:22 am

great map, great graphics! wohoo love those graphics
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Postby iancanton on Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:28 am

looks promising. one obvious error: "eastern republics" ought to be "western republics".

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Re: Soviet Union Map

Postby unriggable on Mon Oct 08, 2007 11:07 am

pepperonibread wrote:Well, I'm just gonna put it out here:

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Gameplay issues:
Green (central asia?) should connect to orange (european russia) via caspian sea, right now it just seems like an end. Anybody who goes for that area will be much more likely to win.
I suggest you change red to be worth 3.
Connect the islands, that way you don't have to go through purple to get from one end of the map to the other. To compensate for these added borders, makea river going between taymyr and mirny, bump up the bonus for owning teal to 4, and get rid of the novaya zemlya - yamalia attack route.

The main problem with this map is how linear it is. Graphically, it is absolutely impeccable.
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Postby Gnome on Mon Oct 08, 2007 11:18 am

I like the map, only some little things:

-I think your rivers have to be flowing IN the land and not ON the land (maybe remove the shadow)

-I don't really like the thick border around the lake at aktobe...I know it's the edge of the playable area but still it looks not right...maybe you can make the right edge of the lake thick and make the borders with caucasus,stalingrad,aktobe and turkmenistan smaller

-you made all the outer borders thick but it looks like kamchatka has only a thick border at the left and the right is small again...

-is it normal that you have some light coloured spots on some territories? at yamalia there is a bright purple above the name, same in Taymyr...the ones from taymyr looks ok, same goes for the spots in Leningrad and larelia...
But the Yamalia one looks to much like a mistake than the other ones...

But wow you did a great job here! I like this map a lot!
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Postby Unit_2 on Mon Oct 08, 2007 12:34 pm

wow, nice pep. it looks realy good and its even the first draft :shock:
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Postby dominationnation on Mon Oct 08, 2007 12:57 pm

the only thing I see is that some of the territory names cross over into other territorys and its hard to tell which it belongs to.
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Postby I GOT SERVED on Mon Oct 08, 2007 1:30 pm

This looks incredible, to say the least.

The only issue I have is the territory names. They overlap at some points, making it confusing to read. Also, the placement of some of the territory names look awkward.
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Postby pepperonibread on Mon Oct 08, 2007 2:45 pm

iancanton wrote:looks promising. one obvious error: "eastern republics" ought to be "western republics".

ian. :)


Hmm... that may be a problem... :D
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Postby cairnswk on Mon Oct 08, 2007 3:34 pm

Pepperonibread...congrats on a magnifco 1st draft....has this been cooking in the kitchen for a while....yes? :)

I'll wait until you've posted a revision before giving comment, that way i won't be repeating some things probably already mentioned.
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Postby pepperonibread on Mon Oct 08, 2007 3:36 pm

oaktown wrote:a very nice first map. Haven't looked at gameplay at all yet, but my visual complaints are few and minor; for instance, the mountains actually look like mountains (which is great and something most mapmakers can't achieve around here) but they may actually be too realistic for a map that doesn't try to achieve realism in any other aspect.

do the rivers in russia really not empty into anything?


Regarding the mountains, I've been having some trouble finding a style that fits this style of map. They can't be too exaggerated, but they also can't be too realistic. Suggestions, anybody?

As for the rivers, they are all accurate or slightly less for the sake of gameplay. Going from left to right, number 1 is fine; there is actually a lake where it ends. Number 2 stops somewhere south of the map. As for number three, its mouth is somewhere on the north coast, but I decided to only include part of it.

gimil wrote:I have 2 minor graphics complaints.

The light side ofthe mountains is 2 white a little more transparency wouldnt hurt. And i feel that hte rivers should be hte same color as the sea, but thats jsut a matter of personal taste i think. maybe a small 1-2 pixal line should be added around te rivers as well to help them fit in a little better. again may jsut be personl taste.

regardless this is a solid 1st draft and i expect it to move quickly throught hte founry.


I'll try make the rivers stand out more, they might look to subtle right now.

unriggable wrote:Gameplay issues:
Green (central asia?) should connect to orange (european russia) via caspian sea, right now it just seems like an end. Anybody who goes for that area will be much more likely to win.
I suggest you change red to be worth 3.
Connect the islands, that way you don't have to go through purple to get from one end of the map to the other. To compensate for these added borders, makea river going between taymyr and mirny, bump up the bonus for owning teal to 4, and get rid of the novaya zemlya - yamalia attack route.

The main problem with this map is how linear it is. Graphically, it is absolutely impeccable.


I can see pros and cons for all of these, one thing I probably can't do is make a river between Taymyr and Mirny, unless somebody can find one around that area. You guys agree, disagree with any of this?

mibi wrote:nice map. but it needs more soviet flavor besides the font and type.


I was going to add symbols into the dead land area, but it turned out there isn't much dead land left. I'll see what I can do.

Gnome wrote:I like the map, only some little things:

-I think your rivers have to be flowing IN the land and not ON the land (maybe remove the shadow)

-I don't really like the thick border around the lake at aktobe...I know it's the edge of the playable area but still it looks not right...maybe you can make the right edge of the lake thick and make the borders with caucasus,stalingrad,aktobe and turkmenistan smaller

-you made all the outer borders thick but it looks like kamchatka has only a thick border at the left and the right is small again...

-is it normal that you have some light coloured spots on some territories? at yamalia there is a bright purple above the name, same in Taymyr...the ones from taymyr looks ok, same goes for the spots in Leningrad and larelia...
But the Yamalia one looks to much like a mistake than the other ones...

But wow you did a great job here! I like this map a lot!


I'll fix the rivers. The borders: I may make them smaller; look for a possible poll later on. Regarding the spots, those are part of the map's texture, which is a satellite image that I used sort of like a grunge. I think it looks good, but maybe others think different.

dominationnation wrote:the only thing I see is that some of the territory names cross over into other territorys and its hard to tell which it belongs to.


I GOT SERVED wrote:This looks incredible, to say the least.

The only issue I have is the territory names. They overlap at some points, making it confusing to read. Also, the placement of some of the territory names look awkward.


I could use a smaller font, or maybe shrink the army circles slightly. I'll show everybody how it looks.
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Postby Coleman on Mon Oct 08, 2007 3:38 pm

pepperonibread wrote:
unriggable wrote:The main problem with this map is how linear it is. Graphically, it is absolutely impeccable.
I can see pros and cons for all of these, one thing I probably can't do is make a river between Taymyr and Mirny, unless somebody can find one around that area. You guys agree, disagree with any of this?
Rivers and mountains are not the only ways to make something impassible. You could put some sort of crazy soviet blockade there. Not sure how you'd draw that though.
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Postby unriggable on Mon Oct 08, 2007 3:45 pm

Coleman wrote:
pepperonibread wrote:
unriggable wrote:The main problem with this map is how linear it is. Graphically, it is absolutely impeccable.
I can see pros and cons for all of these, one thing I probably can't do is make a river between Taymyr and Mirny, unless somebody can find one around that area. You guys agree, disagree with any of this?
Rivers and mountains are not the only ways to make something impassible. You could put some sort of crazy soviet blockade there. Not sure how you'd draw that though.


Gorbachev's birthmark: do not cross.

You don't need a river there per se if you're not going to label them so I think it's fine.
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Postby edbeard on Mon Oct 08, 2007 3:48 pm

could you make the difference in colour from the lake and the western (eastern!) republics bigger? right now I look at the lake and that land and they look too similar to me.

could you increase the size of the legend font? Looks like you have some space. even 2 or 3 font points would be great.
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Postby pepperonibread on Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:34 pm

Alright, I've discovered that the Khatanga River flows just west of the border, so that will work fine.
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Postby pepperonibread on Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:36 pm

edbeard wrote:could you make the difference in colour from the lake and the western (eastern!) republics bigger? right now I look at the lake and that land and they look too similar to me.

could you increase the size of the legend font? Looks like you have some space. even 2 or 3 font points would be great.


How about the color of Kazahkstan verses the dead land? Anyone have problems with that?
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Excellent Map

Postby Tazer on Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:37 pm

Excellent high-qual map. Nicely done.

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