Forum war mafia Peace treaty signed! Landgrab, spamalot win

Skoffin · Post by **Skoffin** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 6:44 am

firth4eva wrote: Also, I am town. Not a part of any faction.

Just like the rest of us, eh?

CrabNebula · Post by **CrabNebula** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 6:45 am

firth4eva wrote:My view

I think Fircoal, LSU and Neut are memberes of factions.
MM and GT definately are.

And the part I was dying to say when re-reading..
GT is Vincent M FFS. Why else would he pm hecter? This also tells usthat Each faction has 4 members or GT is a really good liar. But why would he jepordize his position in the game by breaking the rules just to avoid suspiscion?

Also, I am town. Not a part of any faction.

I think gt claimed hecter?

firth4eva · Post by **firth4eva** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 6:48 am

No. He ddn't claim. He only pmed hecter and hecte's obvious mason would be Vincent.

CrabNebula · Post by **CrabNebula** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 6:49 am

Mason?

I am getting confused here. If he were a mason then why would hecter bring out in the thread that gt PMed him?

firth4eva · Post by **firth4eva** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:11 am

He claimed vig mason

kalishnikov · Post by **kalishnikov** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 11:33 am

mandalorian2298 wrote:
nagerous wrote:Serbia, did you not even read my post....

There is no point in lynching someone who can effectively act as a pro-town vig from the weakest faction...

What is with you guys????????????

If tonka gets lynched and not fircoal then it will be a travesty.
Nag, the the less NK's there is at Night, the more control the Town has on the killing (via lynch).

Also, it is pretty certain that Fircoal is going to be lynched. However, it makes no difference if he gets lynched Today or Tommorow. On the other hand, if Tonka is killed Today, there will be one less NK.

The way your perception of Tonka as a pro-Town killer could come true, would be if he agreed to NK by popular request (we would need a separate vote count for that). In this case, we could lynch Tonka after the first Night he misses his mark (to protect the Town from Tonka's dissobediance. On the other hand, I really don't see why would Tonka agree to this, if he is realy the last of the Spamelotians).

HOWEVER, you are forgeting that Tonka's memebership in Spamelot is not a fact but mearly his claim. After the Night in which he killed Spurgistan of the Flamers(as he claimed first, before he denied it ), the relationship between the Flamers and the Landgrab have deteriorated from 'Enemies' to 'Worst Enemies'. The main reason why I am sticking with the Tonka lynch is: he is our best shot for nailing one of the Landgrabers (who have so far suffered no losses, a fact that should be changed IMO )

Fircoal wrote:
CrabNebula wrote:
Fircoal wrote:Actually it would be quite odd for me to be a part of the Pikachu clan but alas I'm not. I'm a jailkeeper, I get to block and protect someone. I decided to go after Nag both nights, for a couple of reasons. 1) He complains about dying quickly every game so I decided that I could protect him at a good price. 2) He's one of the only people who I know is in the game. Anyway, I'll tell you this, I'm defiantly not in the Pikachu Clan.
Since you have claimed, how about giving us your name?

But I have. You just didn't read close enough.
Are you refering to the quoted post or one of the previous ones, Pika?

kalishnikov wrote:I still agree with the people saying to keep gt alive, for exactly the reasons stated, we can use him to help us. If he doesn't decide to play nice and help he gets lynched the next day phase, he can only make one kill a night, personally I'd say it's worth the chance of losing one person (assumable 'town') if he does double cross us when he's far more likely to hit scum with any kill he makes.

And I do agree with Skittles, LSU does look slightly scummy pushing the lynch of gt so hard. I think for LSU though it's more of a case of 'old school logic' (lynch the killers that aren't on your side) then scumminess that motivates him but nonetheless, FOS: LSU.

And now I'm not so convinced on the Fir lynch as he has come and started posting again, we've got nothing more then MM's word against Fir's. However the pros to his lynch could be confirming MM's role/story (ie, knowing who we can trust) but I'm not gonna vote on it yet.

Unvote, vote: mandalorian I'll join you Fir for lack of something more productive to do at the moment.
I am real saddened by the fact that the first 76 pages haven't supplied any leads that are good enough for you to start being productive, Kalish. Oh, I know what could help - actualy reading all the posts, rather then just the last two pages.

I'm voting you because you have been uncharacteristically quiet in this game, under the guise of boredom, to get you to talk. Should I really not take notice when a player like you submarines most of the game?

That and I'm waiting for a certain something before I join the wagon (again) and killing time. Sorry, we can't all be full of bullshit theories every other post and sometimes throw a 'fake' vote around instead.

Minister Masket · Post by **Minister Masket** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 12:16 pm

Skoffin wrote: I think it's rather obvious what's going on here, LSU and Mando are cleary dirty scum.

GARH! Does no-one pay attention!?

*slaps*
Wake up! Mandalorian is town. TOWN I SAY!
If he would actually confirm this, then I'll be happy.

CrabNebula · Post by **CrabNebula** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 12:42 pm

Minister Masket wrote:
Skoffin wrote: I think it's rather obvious what's going on here, LSU and Mando are cleary dirty scum.
GARH! Does no-one pay attention!?

*slaps*
Wake up! Mandalorian is town. TOWN I SAY!
If he would actually confirm this, then I'll be happy.

Being a faction, wouldn't it in your favour if a town gets lynched? Or is there more than something to it?

firth4eva · Post by **firth4eva** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 1:47 pm

I think the town is a faction in itself if you think about it. Can't win until all the other factions die. They just aren't worst enemies and stuff.

Serbia · Post by **Serbia** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 1:47 pm

Vig, scum, whatever. GT has kill abilities, AND can communicate. Vig Mason just doesn't make sense. That's why I'm voting him.

-Serbia

firth4eva · Post by **firth4eva** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 1:53 pm

Damn it Serbia he is Vincent M. But I changed my mind. We are better without him. unvote vote gt[/b]

And also if s faction tries to recruit me tonight no one will know because I am just plain town. So please recruit me

nagerous · Post by **nagerous** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 1:55 pm

I'm tired of arguing this shit...

Its obvious that most of you are scum because you are threatened that tonka's bullet will hit one of the men in your own factions.

I as a townmember seem to be in the minority here...

Just lynch whoever the hell you wantr.

firth4eva · Post by **firth4eva** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 1:57 pm

firth4eva wrote:Damn it Serbia he is Vincent M. But I changed my mind. We are better without him. unvote vote gt

And also if s faction tries to recruit me tonight no one will know because I am just plain town. So please recruit me

EBWOP
votes are getting too stupid
and to nag i feel another factions roleblocker will come into action

Neoteny · Post by **Neoteny** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 1:59 pm

There are quite a few dead townies. To be honest, I agree that town is pretty much it's own faction, and I'd guess a rather underpowered one at this point. We should be happy to be getting a sure non-town lynch. Let the mafia factions blow each other to pieces at night. I think I'm going to finally toss my hat in on this one.

Vote: GT

mandalorian2298 · Post by **mandalorian2298** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 2:05 pm

CrabNebula wrote:One thing you forgot Mandy is that gt claimed hecter who is spamalot and has not been countered. You could argue that no scum faction would counterclaim, but his claim makes sense with his mistake that he did on Night 1, PMing the real hecter (which has been confirmed by Iliad). So his claim fits in with the scheme of things and which is why I believe Fircoal or LSU are better lynch candidates than gt who could help the town if not by persuasion then by force. After all he wants to live too...

On the topic of Tonka PMing Hectar, all I have to say is this: If it didn't happen within the rules of the game, then, as far as I'm concerned, it didn't happen.

I repeat: Best case scenario - Tonka is Landgrab killer and we should lynch him.
Worst case scenario - Tonka is Spamelotian Killer (which I doubt because of the circumstances around Spurgistan's death) and we should lynch him to effectivly eliminate the threat of Spamelot Mafia.

Minister Masket wrote:
Skoffin wrote: I think it's rather obvious what's going on here, LSU and Mando are cleary dirty scum.
GARH! Does no-one pay attention!?

*slaps*
Wake up! Mandalorian is town. TOWN I SAY!
If he would actually confirm this, then I'll be happy.

Just out of curiosity, what would you say if I called you a liar and claimed Scum now?

BTW, yes, I do confirm that I'm Town. Does anyone else want to confirm that they're Town?

firth4eva · Post by **firth4eva** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 2:07 pm

Erm. Me. I'm town.

nagerous · Post by **nagerous** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 2:16 pm

Mandy he's Vincent M "Spamalot" as illustrated by the accidently pming Hecter debacle night one.

Neoteny · Post by **Neoteny** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 2:22 pm

nagerous wrote:I'm tired of arguing this shit...

Its obvious that most of you are scum because you are threatened that tonka's bullet will hit one of the men in your own factions.

As nonplussed as you are over voting GT, one might be tempted to presume you are hecter.

FOS nagerous

lalaland · Post by **lalaland** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 2:39 pm

I actually agree with skoffin that fir is nag, because that still puts him as part of the esoog clan, meaning I was partially right =]

Lynches I would be OK with:
Fircoal -- probably esoog
GT: a little iffy, i can see both sides of the story; probably spamalot
nag: if we lynch GT and he is Vincent, I wouldn't be too miffed we went with nag next

I'd say the safest bet is probably Fir

lalaland · Post by **lalaland** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 2:40 pm

unvote vote fircoal

got tonkaed · Post by **got tonkaed** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 3:23 pm

some of the arguments against me a disgrace considering what i can offer the town.

having said that i will Vote Fircoal

given that its my best hope to prove my utility to the town and to lynch off another faction member, which would probably go aways toward unearthing MMs validity as well.

nagerous · Post by **nagerous** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 3:57 pm

Anyone who thinks I'm spamalot have a look again at pages 62-65....

firth4eva · Post by **firth4eva** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 3:58 pm

unvote vote fircoal I agree that this kills 2 birds with one stone

lalaland · Post by **lalaland** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 5:09 pm

firth will you remind me who you're subbing for?

firth4eva · Post by **firth4eva** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 5:11 pm

Willis. I don't think he even made a post