What's Trump up to?

[Bernie Sanders]

Scotty hit the mark? Claimed that there can be no worthwhile discussion whilst a pc brigade exists.

Fair comment except this topic has gone do of track as a result of Scotty's comment. So to be more succint, there can be no worthwhile discussion till people stop plastering theirnown agendas everywhere.

Well the problem may be poltical correctness has in some instances replaced freedom of speech WHICH IS A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT IN AMERICA, many of those posting here may not get it, that said there are times when it goes to far, in those cases you have to decide whether those people have morale compasses or not. Example the derrogative term for African Americans, it is damn stupid term,yet every time I hear a black person speak it, I am stunned.ok yet not ok at all, wake up. The hate on both sides is winning don't let them win WAKE UP.

Here we go....WHITES complaining that they can't call BLACKS n****rs, while BLACKS can call themselves and each other n****rs all day. How unfair! This political correctness has gone too far!

If we can only go back to the 1950s, where political correctness term was not known.



Notice how the left drinking fountain has electric hook up for chilled water? The good ole days when N****RS knew their place!

[jgordon1111]

Scotty hit the mark? Claimed that there can be no worthwhile discussion whilst a pc brigade exists.

Fair comment except this topic has gone do of track as a result of Scotty's comment. So to be more succint, there can be no worthwhile discussion till people stop plastering theirnown agendas everywhere.

Well the problem may be poltical correctness has in some instances replaced freedom of speech WHICH IS A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT IN AMERICA, many of those posting here may not get it, that said there are times when it goes to far, in those cases you have to decide whether those people have morale compasses or not. Example the derrogative term for African Americans, it is damn stupid term,yet every time I hear a black person speak it, I am stunned.ok yet not ok at all, wake up. The hate on both sides is winning don't let them win WAKE UP.

Here we go....WHITES complaining that they can't call BLACKS n****rs, while BLACKS can call themselves and each other n****rs all day. How unfair! This political correctness has gone too far!

If we can only go back to the 1950s, where political correctness term was not known.



Notice how the left drinking fountain has electric hook up for chilled water? The good ole days when N****RS knew their place!

Bernie either you missed my point or you are intentionally missing it, that word was placed on black people as a derogatory descriptive, and when I say wake up it is to remind black people where it came from and why, yes they know where,but even after all this time why use a word like that with the connotations that it has even to one another it makes no sense in my mind to do so, to me it seems those who gave that term are winning even today and laughing even that black people use it to each other, that is why I say wake up. Yes I know I am borrowing the line from spike lee, but....

[Bernie Sanders]

Blacks use that term n****r as a term of endearment to each other. Whites using this term, well.....

I hear that same argument, that you are using by many White people who happen to be associates of mine.

[jgordon1111]

Blacks use that term n****r as a term of endearment to each other. Whites using this term, well.....

I hear that same argument, that you are using by many White people who happen to be associates of mine.

And when you hear it what do you think?

Also why do you assume I am Caucasian?

[Phatscotty]

Well the problem may be poltical correctness has in some instances replaced freedom of speech WHICH IS A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT IN AMERICA

"Freedom of speech" means that the government cannot jail you for saying something it does not like. It does not mean I cannot call you a moron as often as I like.

Correct you are mets, if you choose to disagree with what I or anyone says, personally I care not a whit what anyone thinks or says or me as long as its not lies. I make my choices based on things I have read or learned for myself not someone else's opinions, can you say the same?

JG nailed it. I too am totally cool with other people having a different opinion. Afterall, with each of us having totally different educations, experiences, life lessons, example ratios, parenting etc, it's totally understandable some people are going to have a different take on things based on different needs and perceptions. I take the Constitution very seriously, and right up at the top is #1, the Freedom of Speech. I've pointed out before, when I was growing up, I used to hear people say all the time 'this is a free country, I can say whatever I want.' Today, and not exactly through any direct fault of their own, many people (mostly younger) are all 'YOU CAN'T SAY THAT!' But looking at this another way, p.c. eichmann peeps really are championing themselves as absolutely correct, and anyone who even asks about any possible different opinions are basically cast out into crazy town, mocked, called all kinds of hateful names and what's worse the p.c. peeps start casting horrible judgments up and down and all around, many times upon the first chatter with a person they have never even met one time in their entire lives! It's pretty clear to me many p.c. types are not only the exact definition of the virile hatred they project unto everyone else, but an awful lot of it is also mindless. I get how they think their hate is justified. I am hard pressed to imagine a more dangerous combination of hatred and mindlessness, and political correctness is exactly the kind of danger Lincoln and others warned about so long ago.

America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves

A long list of things you can't say, can't do, can't feelz, can't think. Just look at that Star Wars thread about the kid with the gun on his shirt... He has the right to own and carry a gun, and today's public education system cannot even tolerate a picture of something which is our right! Scary, eh? And I won't leave out the college system either. Just look at what universities used to symbolize only 2 generations ago. They were bastions of free speech, today some students run to authority crying because their precious feelz got hurt and actually getting people fired over it. Just one thing in closing, popular speech usually does not need any protection. It's unpopular speech that needs protection the most, that also being the bedrock of our principles of Freedom and Liberty. Whenever I see groups of people trying to ban words and speech and the sharing of ideas, I literally see a DIRECT attack on America and our most important Constitutional amendment, the 1st Amendment. I am suddenly understanding ever more clearly just what meaning of the phrase is....

The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he did not exist

[Bernie Sanders]

Blacks use that term n****r as a term of endearment to each other. Whites using this term, well.....

I hear that same argument, that you are using by many White people who happen to be associates of mine.

And when you hear it what do you think?

Also why do you assume I am Caucasian?

Mongoloid?

[Metsfanmax]

Today, and not exactly through any direct fault of their own, many people (mostly younger) are all 'YOU CAN'T SAY THAT!' But looking at this another way, p.c. eichmann peeps really are championing themselves as absolutely correct, and anyone who even asks about any possible different opinions are basically cast out into crazy town, mocked, called all kinds of hateful names and what's worse the p.c. peeps start casting horrible judgments up and down and all around, many times upon the first chatter with a person they have never even met one time in their entire lives! It's pretty clear to me many p.c. types are not only the exact definition of the virile hatred they project unto everyone else, but an awful lot of it is also mindless. I get how they think their hate is justified. I am hard pressed to imagine a more dangerous combination of hatred and mindlessness, and political correctness is exactly the kind of danger Lincoln and others warned about so long ago.

Nice. A call to end hatred and mindlessness coupled with calling people who disagree with you "eichman peeps."

[Phatscotty]

And Scotty hits the mark. The word racism nowadays has been bastardized as much as feminism has by people who are oversensitive and use it as a false excuse.

100% agree but Trumpet doesn't fall into the category of people being overly sensitive or taking political correctness too far, as happens so annoyingly often nowadays. He's just racist.

Yep. Being "non-PC" or an asshole is one thing. But Trump? He discriminates based on race (Mexicans) and religion (Muslims). The very definition of racism and bigotry (in general).

yeah.... Trump HATES Mexicans sooooooo much, he married one! pff, gimme a freakin break! these charges of racism are so ridiculous that it's actually sad. I think after you graduate from p.c. lala-land and start having some thoughts of your own, you might understand Trump and most Americans understand it has nothing to do with race, of which Mexicans ARE NOT a race, fuggin ZOMGLULZ! MTG, you don't even understand what the hell you are talking about. It's about citizenship and nationality and the rule of law. I (sadly) find it hilarious Trump only wants to do what Mexico already does to us, and virtually every country in the world does. To come into the country legally. Cross into Mexico, you get thrown in prison. Sop instead of wasting all your precious brain energies on what policy a person says they want and probably won't get in the future, and instead maybe you should be attacking Mexico and Canada all the time for ALREADY having the same policies AGAINST US and to our detriment....the policies you seem so concerned about potentially becoming a reality one day, in the name of everyone who isn't US and for other people's benefit whilst at your expense. This is exactly what I was talking about in my last post here. Under such a simple premise as 'without borders, THERE CANNOT BE A COUNTRY!!' You just keep on attacking America, breaking it down, shitting all over America and Americans, all in the name of 'everyone else in the world'. and honestly, I am sorry you were taught to hate America and that you bought into the orders of destroying it, the only thing that gets me is how so many p.c. types like you actually find a way to feel fucking GOOD about it, and that you think you are doing the right thing.

[Metsfanmax]

yeah.... Trump HATES Mexicans sooooooo much, he married one!

Uh, what?

[Symmetry]

yeah.... Trump HATES Mexicans sooooooo much, he married one!

Uh, what?

+1

[Bernie Sanders]

yeah.... Trump HATES Mexicans sooooooo much, he married one!

Uh, what?

+1

You got your crazies mixed up.

[thegreekdog]

Does anyone know about the immigration laws of say, Norway or Sweden or Switzerland? I was doing a quick search and found this (on wikipedia obviously):

The admission of people from non-EU/EFTA countries is regulated by the Foreign Nationals Act, and is limited to skilled workers who are urgently required and are likely to integrate successfully in the long term. There are quotas established yearly: in 2012 it was 3,500 residency permits and 5,000 short-term permits.

Trump is not racist. He's a bigot. Difference? Maybe. He's also not qualified to be president based upon what I've seen thus far. Like I said in another thread, despite his popularity, I don't know anyone who is supportive of Trump in real life. I don't think he's going to get the nomination. And I think he will run on as an independent candidate (unless someone he likes wins the nomination - like Cruz) and Hillary Clinton will win the general election. Then we'll have a slightly more conservative version of President Obama for at least four years (i.e. nothing substantive will be done domestically and we'll go to "real war" with ISIS).

[mrswdk]

Does anyone know about the immigration laws of say, Norway or Sweden or Switzerland? I was doing a quick search and found this (on wikipedia obviously):

The admission of people from non-EU/EFTA countries is regulated by the Foreign Nationals Act, and is limited to skilled workers who are urgently required and are likely to integrate successfully in the long term. There are quotas established yearly: in 2012 it was 3,500 residency permits and 5,000 short-term permits.

One thing to note would be that all three have have to comply with the European Economic Area's rules on freedom of movement, which say that you can't put any kind of limit on people moving from another EEA country to yours. So whether or not they have quotas like that in place, the EU28 plus Norway, Switzerland and Liechtenstein aren't allowed to put any kind of restrictions on movement within that area.

In general most European countries (that I've read about) have immigration rules that prevent people moving there unless they have the means to subsist without accessing state funds and/or are highly skilled. These only apply to non-Europeans though (for the reasons in paragraph 1) and quotas are usually not applied to high-skilled workers.

Outside of highly-skilled worker oriented policy I'm not really sure, but I think generally they won't let regular immigrants come on a working visa unless they already have a job secured and employers have shown they cannot fill the job using a domestic person.

[jgordon1111]

Blacks use that term n****r as a term of endearment to each other. Whites using this term, well.....

I hear that same argument, that you are using by many White people who happen to be associates of mine.

And when you hear it what do you think?

Also why do you assume I am Caucasian?

Mongoloid?

Lol Bernie, really even a bigot like you should know that most mongoloids are CAUCASION due to your rampant inbreeding to keep the race pure , amusing that purity brought this condition about and no Bernie I am not in your family tree, which coincidently looks like a tomato stake. Higher education my ass, you are proof it isn't worth a damn.

[JulyBurnsRed]

I don't think trump is holding up a mirror to american society as a whole, but he really showed America the republicans true colours. Holding up a mirror to capitalist conservatives imho.

[thegreekdog]

I don't think trump is holding up a mirror to american society as a whole, but he really showed America the republicans true colours. Holding up a mirror to capitalist conservatives imho.

As a capitalist conservative (although I admittedly don't know your definition of the term) who also believes in civil liberties and a scaling back of foreign intervention and defense spending, I certainly don't see Donald Trump when I look in the mirror. Perhaps you're confusing economic conservatism with social conservatism. Donald Trump is playing off of peoples' fears of terrorism and the ethnic and religious components that feed off of that. I don't think those fears are limited to Republicans or conservatives, at least if I look at the latest terrorism/ISIS polls:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/187655/ameri ... oblem.aspx

Republicans are more likely than Democrats to say terrorism is the most important problem facing the U.S. And there has been a much greater rise in Republican concern about terrorism over the last month than among members of other party groups. Currently, 24% of Republicans name terrorism as the most important problem, compared with 9% of Democrats and 15% of independents. In November, 4% of Republicans, 3% of Democrats and 2% of independents named terrorism as the top problem.

[JulyBurnsRed]

I don't think trump is holding up a mirror to american society as a whole, but he really showed America the republicans true colours. Holding up a mirror to capitalist conservatives imho.

As a capitalist conservative (although I admittedly don't know your definition of the term) who also believes in civil liberties and a scaling back of foreign intervention and defense spending, I certainly don't see Donald Trump when I look in the mirror. Perhaps you're confusing economic conservatism with social conservatism. Donald Trump is playing off of peoples' fears of terrorism and the ethnic and religious components that feed off of that. I don't think those fears are limited to Republicans or conservatives, at least if I look at the latest terrorism/ISIS polls:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/187655/ameri ... oblem.aspx

Republicans are more likely than Democrats to say terrorism is the most important problem facing the U.S. And there has been a much greater rise in Republican concern about terrorism over the last month than among members of other party groups. Currently, 24% of Republicans name terrorism as the most important problem, compared with 9% of Democrats and 15% of independents. In November, 4% of Republicans, 3% of Democrats and 2% of independents named terrorism as the top problem.

Yes sorry about the confusion. Social conservatives, I have absolutely no problem with economic conservatives

[Symmetry]

yeah.... Trump HATES Mexicans sooooooo much, he married one!

Uh, what?

+1

You got your crazies mixed up.

Not really.

[mookiemcgee]

Where is the republican saboteur option on this vote?

[riskllama]

6'3"

[Symmetry]

Where is the republican saboteur option on this vote?

Surely all leading Repubs are basically saboteurs. The moment any of them talk too long, something insane emerges.

His opponents include a guy who believes that the pyramids are barns, for goodness sake.

[Bernie Sanders]

Where is the republican saboteur option on this vote?

Surely all leading Repubs are basically saboteurs. The moment any of them talk too long, something insane emerges.

His opponents include a guy who believes that the pyramids are barns, for goodness sake.

Trump is going to do more to destroy the Republican Party, than any Democrat.

Trump just found out that women go to the washroom to relieve themselves and finds it "DISGUSTING!"

Really this whole Trump thing is unreal.

[PLAYER57832]

We all know which party favours the rich, thus their popularity with the rich, corporations, and the dumb blind followers and hangers on.

Actually, I don't think most people do know which party favors the rich, corporations, and dumb blind followers and hangers on. I think people believe that they know, but they don't.

Its "all of the above". No question.

[Symmetry]

Where is the republican saboteur option on this vote?

Surely all leading Repubs are basically saboteurs. The moment any of them talk too long, something insane emerges.

His opponents include a guy who believes that the pyramids are barns, for goodness sake.

Trump is going to do more to destroy the Republican Party, than any Democrat.

Trump just found out that women go to the washroom to relieve themselves and finds it "DISGUSTING!"

Really this whole Trump thing is unreal.

Meh, he's what the Republicans have been urging their base to support for a long time. Rich, privileged, white, male, misogynistic, racist, and devoid of ideas.