MAFIA - X-Men Legends [Game over -- Town wins!]

dussle · Post by **dussle** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 9:55 pm

XenHu wrote:Does it now?

-X

Aight, you're being an idiot. FOS XenHu.

supercram · Post by **supercram** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:46 pm

WAIT WAIT!!! What if he's the "Lynchee" or whatever and his win condition is get lynched! That's the only viable explanation for this behavior.

unvote xenhu

no one tries to get themself lynched Day 1. and he is clearly relishing this.

i bet i'm right.

not on my watch xenhu.

dussle · Post by **dussle** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:48 pm

supercram wrote:WAIT WAIT!!! What if he's the "Lynchee" or whatever and his win condition is get lynched! That's the only viable explanation for this behavior.

unvote xenhu

no one tries to get themself lynched Day 1. and he is clearly relishing this. i bet i'm right.

not on my watch xenhu.

How could he win by getting himself killed? How unfair would that be? I honestly think he's just an idiot, and very possibly a mafia idiot. We'll see....

dussle · Post by **dussle** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:49 pm

Scratch taht, what sort of mafia would act that suspiscious almsot deliberately. Xen, you're off my list for a while.....

supercram · Post by **supercram** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:02 pm

dussle there's a mafia role called a Jester whose goal is to get himself lynched.

Nyvek · Post by **Nyvek** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:09 pm

supercram wrote:dussle there's a mafia role called a Jester whose goal is to get himself lynched.

Does the game end if a Jester makes his win condition?

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:11 pm

I wouldn't guess so?

Machiavelli · Post by **Machiavelli** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:13 pm

supercram wrote:dussle there's a mafia role called a Jester whose goal is to get himself lynched.

No one ever plays with that role.

Even if that is XenHu's role, the town would not lose by lynching XenHu. Also, if that is Xen's role, he will only be disruptive the entire game.

FOS CRAM

VOTE XenHU

Machiavelli · Post by **Machiavelli** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:14 pm

AK_iceman wrote: After breakfast, Machiavelli and reverend_kyle go out to the basketball court to shoot some hoops.

For the record, I beat him 21-8.

dcowboys055 · Post by **dcowboys055** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:14 pm

supercram wrote:dussle there's a mafia role called a Jester whose goal is to get himself lynched.

thats straight up f*ckin retarded

still voting xenhu

Fircoal · Post by **Fircoal** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:16 pm

Nyvek wrote:
supercram wrote:dussle there's a mafia role called a Jester whose goal is to get himself lynched.
Does the game end if a Jester makes his win condition?

no

Nyvek · Post by **Nyvek** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:18 pm

XenHu, your no newbie. Why would you intentionally bring so much suspicion on yourself?

Fircoal · Post by **Fircoal** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:20 pm

Nyvek wrote:XenHu, your no newbie. Why would you intentionally bring so much suspicion on yourself?

He could be a jester.

supercram · Post by **supercram** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:37 pm

Machiavelli wrote:
supercram wrote:dussle there's a mafia role called a Jester whose goal is to get himself lynched.
No one ever plays with that role.

Even if that is XenHu's role, the town would not lose by lynching XenHu. Also, if that is Xen's role, he will only be disruptive the entire game.

FOS CRAM

VOTE XenHU

i didn't know the role is rare; i just remembered it from the flash site (but not the name). and so i looked it up for dussle, and there are like 25 people in this game, so i figure anything goes.

i don't know how otherwise to explain why xenhu is acting ENTIRELY out of character and seems to want us to lynch him. that's why i unvoted my vote for him.

as long as it doesn't mean he wins i could care less if we lynch him to restore sanity to this thread. i know he can't be a pro-town power role and acting like a complete idiot.

it's definitely better than us losing the doc or the cop due to speedy lynching.

vote xenhu

wicked · Post by **wicked** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:43 pm

Xenhu, what do you have to say for yourself?

Senfive · Post by **Senfive** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:19 am

wow didn't expect 6 pages already let me catch up lol.

Master Bush · Post by **Master Bush** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:38 am

unvote wicked

vote xenhu

HoussamTheGreat · Post by **HoussamTheGreat** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:40 am

wicked wrote:
AK_iceman wrote:Supercram and Houssam go upstairs to work on some homework.

oh STFU!

Cool storyline. this is going to be interesting. Still hate first days though...

Master Bush · Post by **Master Bush** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:41 am

They hate you.

HoussamTheGreat · Post by **HoussamTheGreat** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:42 am

XenHu wrote:Of course, he'll die either way...

-X

you've gotta be kidding right?

FOS Xenhu

HoussamTheGreat · Post by **HoussamTheGreat** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:48 am

Master Bush wrote:They hate you.

Actually, turns out this first day is substantially less random than most! Not sure what Xenhu thinks he is doing, but..

vote xenhu

Of course, with 25 players we like need 30 votes or something, so this is going to be a longish day I think.

Senfive · Post by **Senfive** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:59 am

vgmmaster wrote:A lot of random votes going out early I see.

Personally, I don't play that way. What I am wondering though, is this. Seeing how we have 25 players starting (if I counted correctly), it leaves you to wonder how many mafias there are.

Now, I'm not an X-men expert, but for now, I'm going to assume that there are two mafias. Mystique's group and Magneto's group. Also, I think Juggaurnaut may be the Serial Killer.

From there, we have to fill in the blanks, but this is where I'm leaning currently.

This Smells atm. Scum know more about the game than any townie does. I see some of the things you are saying but if during the course of the game we find out there is any truth in these claims. You are on my list.

Sam Jam wrote:also, how many docs do we have? cops?
lots of questions experienced people could anwser

NOOB or SCUM? I can't decide. why do you want to know how many cops/docs there are? Only Scum would want to know this.

dussle wrote:
dussle wrote:Because that'd be mean! Everyone would weep. And morale would go down substantally... hey maybe the mafia would to that.
That's for Xen's "Why not?"

Why are you sticking up for someone this early in the game? Xenhu suddenly go mute and you have to talk for him?

Machiavelli wrote:
supercram wrote:dussle there's a mafia role called a Jester whose goal is to get himself lynched.
No one ever plays with that role.

Even if that is XenHu's role, the town would not lose by lynching XenHu. Also, if that is Xen's role, he will only be disruptive the entire game.

FOS CRAM

VOTE XenHU

HoussamTheGreat wrote:
Master Bush wrote:They hate you.
Actually, turns out this first day is substantially less random than most! Not sure what Xenhu thinks he is doing, but..

vote xenhu

Of course, with 25 players we like need 30 votes or something, so this is going to be a longish day I think.

So you are saying that by lynching him it will get us somewhere in the game? How is that? Losing 2 townies is a horrible way to start day 2. To me you both look like you would be glad to lynch anyone with your poor reasoning and Bandwagoning.

Master Bush wrote:unvote wicked

vote xenhu

No Reason? Just a bandwagon vote? MB you aren't playing very well you know that. Just like RK. Throwing votes out left and right with no substance to back them up.

Fircoal wrote:
autoload wrote:I feel sorry for the mod when he has to count all these votes. I'm a big fan of random voting, but I came into this game late enough to where I don't need to use it.

Vote: Fircoal For OMGUSing supercram.

With that I am out to work.
I OMGUS anybody who votes for me (well at least on the 1st day and when all the random votes are happening), which means.

Unvote: Cram
Vote: Autoload

and more important how is OMGUS votes a bad thing when random votes happen?

Fircoal wrote:I don't suspect anybody with anything yet. An OMGUS vote is like a random vote, but it's just a payback vote. To me it doesn't seem scummy at any time, when there are random votes. Your suspicion of OMGUS votes kind of does sound scummy to me, and that you think I can be scum just because of two straight OMGUS votes. FOS: Autoload

Fircoal wrote:
Nyvek wrote:
supercram wrote:dussle there's a mafia role called a Jester whose goal is to get himself lynched.
Does the game end if a Jester makes his win condition?
no

I agree with autoload. 2 OMGUS votes in a matter of a couple of pages? SCUMMY if I ever saw it. Please come up with a better excuse Fircoal. Your excuses sound like what a 2 year old caught with their hand in the cookie jar would say. Also how do you know that the game doesn't end if the jester achives his win condition?

I honestly Believe that a Bandwagon in a 25 man game this early is retarded. I don't believe it will get us anywhere. More than half the players haven't even checked in. so all the bandwagon votes for Xenhu are suspicious to me. I know this is will be interpreted as me sticking up for him, but that is not the case. I merely don't want to lose 2 Townies Before we are able to ELIMINATE all Mafia.

red bull wrote:but.... i must vote no lynch to early in the game... might kill one of the good ones

I honestly have to agree with red bull on this one. Way too early on and the chances of Hittin a Pro-Townie with a power role is way too high in a 25 man game. so therefore I am going to SFOS Fircoal and Machiavelli and Houssam and Master Bush and have to Vote No Lynch

Fircoal · Post by **Fircoal** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 1:17 am

Senfive wrote:
Fircoal wrote:
autoload wrote:I feel sorry for the mod when he has to count all these votes. I'm a big fan of random voting, but I came into this game late enough to where I don't need to use it.

Vote: Fircoal For OMGUSing supercram.

With that I am out to work.
I OMGUS anybody who votes for me (well at least on the 1st day and when all the random votes are happening), which means.

Unvote: Cram
Vote: Autoload

and more important how is OMGUS votes a bad thing when random votes happen?

Fircoal wrote:I don't suspect anybody with anything yet. An OMGUS vote is like a random vote, but it's just a payback vote. To me it doesn't seem scummy at any time, when there are random votes. Your suspicion of OMGUS votes kind of does sound scummy to me, and that you think I can be scum just because of two straight OMGUS votes. FOS: Autoload

Fircoal wrote:
Nyvek wrote:
supercram wrote:dussle there's a mafia role called a Jester whose goal is to get himself lynched.
Does the game end if a Jester makes his win condition?
no
I agree with autoload. 2 OMGUS votes in a matter of a couple of pages? SCUMMY if I ever saw it. Please come up with a better excuse Fircoal. Your excuses sound like what a 2 year old caught with their hand in the cookie jar would say. Also how do you know that the game doesn't end if the jester achives his win condition?

From what I read on the flash is the game doesn't stop if the jester achives his win condition, and why would it?
If a Jester wins how would that affect the other players, besides being 1 player down. To stop the game because of a Jester lynch wuold jsut be stupid.

And for the OMGUS votes. It's like a random vote, and there really is no harm to it. It's just a vote in a playfully manner. All of the votes so far have been random, besides the Xenhu Bandwagon. So what's the matter with an OMGUS vote. It's like a random one, just with out the random. It still isn't a meaningful vote. Right now that's all it is, meaningless votes, except the Xenhu Bandwagon. I'd say that they look more scummy then I do. When someone really startes acting like scum, I will start to change my vote, and go more onto them.

I honestly Believe that a Bandwagon in a 25 man game this early is retarded. I don't believe it will get us anywhere. More than half the players haven't even checked in. so all the bandwagon votes for Xenhu are suspicious to me. I know this is will be interpreted as me sticking up for him, but that is not the case. I merely don't want to lose 2 Townies Before we are able to ELIMINATE all Mafia.

Now, I agree with most of this, but wouldn't it be better to get more proof, then not lynch anybody. With a no lynch we get no info, with a lynch with tons of proof we get info on who pushed who. Who started the lynch.

Senfive · Post by **Senfive** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 1:33 am

Fircoal wrote:And for the OMGUS votes. It's like a random vote, and there really is no harm to it. It's just a vote in a playfully manner. All of the votes so far have been random, besides the Xenhu Bandwagon. So what's the matter with an OMGUS vote. It's like a random one, just with out the random. It still isn't a meaningful vote. Right now that's all it is, meaningless votes, except the Xenhu Bandwagon. I'd say that they look more scummy then I do. When someone really startes acting like scum, I will start to change my vote, and go more onto them.

SenFive wrote:I honestly Believe that a Bandwagon in a 25 man game this early is retarded. I don't believe it will get us anywhere. More than half the players haven't even checked in. so all the bandwagon votes for Xenhu are suspicious to me. I know this is will be interpreted as me sticking up for him, but that is not the case. I merely don't want to lose 2 Townies Before we are able to ELIMINATE all Mafia.
Now, I agree with most of this, but wouldn't it be better to get more proof, then not lynch anybody. With a no lynch we get no info, with a lynch with tons of proof we get info on who pushed who. Who started the lynch.

OMGUS votes are Scum Tells. They are not random generic fun votes. You OMGUS voting twice in a game shows you over react to being voted for and are scared. If you want any, and I me seriousness in any of your votes don't OMGUS vote anyone and everyone that votes for you when you do Scummy things. You aren't a noob anymore so stop trying to use that as your crutch.

Where do you have definate proof if it turns out to be a Townie Power role? I understand that you can look at the list of who voted for the townie but in a 25 man game, if the bandwagon starts with townies and continues with townies the smart mafia won't hop on and be in the clear with your logic Fircoal. I didn't want a lynch in auto's last game and who did we kill? Oh thats right the doctor on the first lynch everyone bandwagoned on. Did we get anywhere with your looking at who voted for who? I don't think so. I don't want a repeat of that.

Fircoal · Post by **Fircoal** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 1:38 am

Senfive wrote:
Fircoal wrote:And for the OMGUS votes. It's like a random vote, and there really is no harm to it. It's just a vote in a playfully manner. All of the votes so far have been random, besides the Xenhu Bandwagon. So what's the matter with an OMGUS vote. It's like a random one, just with out the random. It still isn't a meaningful vote. Right now that's all it is, meaningless votes, except the Xenhu Bandwagon. I'd say that they look more scummy then I do. When someone really startes acting like scum, I will start to change my vote, and go more onto them.

SenFive wrote:I honestly Believe that a Bandwagon in a 25 man game this early is retarded. I don't believe it will get us anywhere. More than half the players haven't even checked in. so all the bandwagon votes for Xenhu are suspicious to me. I know this is will be interpreted as me sticking up for him, but that is not the case. I merely don't want to lose 2 Townies Before we are able to ELIMINATE all Mafia.
Now, I agree with most of this, but wouldn't it be better to get more proof, then not lynch anybody. With a no lynch we get no info, with a lynch with tons of proof we get info on who pushed who. Who started the lynch.
OMGUS votes are Scum Tells. They are not random generic fun votes. You OMGUS voting twice in a game shows you over react to being voted for and are scared. If you want any, and I me seriousness in any of your votes don't OMGUS vote anyone and everyone that votes for you when you do Scummy things. You aren't a noob anymore so stop trying to use that as your crutch.

Where do you have definate proof if it turns out to be a Townie Power role? I understand that you can look at the list of who voted for the townie but in a 25 man game, if the bandwagon starts with townies and continues with townies the smart mafia won't hop on and be in the clear with your logic Fircoal. I didn't want a lynch in auto's last game and who did we kill? Oh thats right the doctor on the first lynch everyone bandwagoned on. Did we get anywhere with your looking at who voted for who? I don't think so. I don't want a repeat of that.

You bring up good points, but I OMGUS vote not because I'm scared as that would be stupid. IT's just as stupid as being mafia then lynching them because they put proof against you. IT shows that you are the mafia. I'm not trying to act like a noob. If I was trying to act like a noob, I wouldn't even be writing out any reasons, I'd just say, "I'm not mafia, believe me."

As for the no lynch thing, I get your point, but the bad thing about your example is that there was no proof in lynching Nyvek. It was a clear bandwagon. I don't want a repeat of that either, and I hope that some people are smart enough not to bandwagon. Though a no lynch isn't the way to go either. AT least the nyvek lynch got us some clues.