Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [Quenched]

ender516 · Post by **ender516** » Sat Mar 24, 2012 2:14 pm

I just noticed that the legend still says "(Bonus with corresponding Colonial power)". That should say "European" to be consistent.

The Bison King · Post by **The Bison King** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:23 am

ender516 wrote:I just noticed that the legend still says "(Bonus with corresponding Colonial power)". That should say "European" to be consistent.

Nah that was something we worked out a while ago. We decided "Colonial" was better there since Turkey isn't by definition a European country

natty dread · Post by **natty dread** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:44 am

The Bison King wrote:Turkey isn't by definition a European country

Then why is it trying to join EU

The Bison King · Post by **The Bison King** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:18 am

natty dread wrote:
The Bison King wrote:Turkey isn't by definition a European country
Then why is it trying to join EU

That's nobodies business but the Turks.

ender516 · Post by **ender516** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:30 am

The Bison King wrote:
ender516 wrote:I just noticed that the legend still says "(Bonus with corresponding Colonial power)". That should say "European" to be consistent.
Nah that was something we worked out a while ago. We decided "Colonial" was better there since Turkey isn't by definition a European country

Well, the Ottoman Empire was referred to as the "sick man of Europe" and the map of Ottoman could include not only Anatolia but also East Thrace (carve it out of Balkan, and even let it touch Austria-Hungary, if you want to drop the Black Sea route). But if you don't want to change the map that way, then it should say "Colonial power" everywhere else, e.g., "Can be 1 way assaulted by any Colonial power..."

RedBaron0 · Post by **RedBaron0** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:50 am

Stick with "European" The title in the legend minimap says "EUROPE." Start fiddling around with the technicality that the Ottoman Empire was mainly a Middle Eastern empire with a sizable portion on Europe under its control and it's gonna just screw with the theme...

Just make it be consistent. all "European" (as I and other suggest) or all "colonial"

The Bison King · Post by **The Bison King** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 7:34 am

RedBaron0 wrote:Stick with "European" The title in the legend minimap says "EUROPE." Start fiddling around with the technicality that the Ottoman Empire was mainly a Middle Eastern empire with a sizable portion on Europe under its control and it's gonna just screw with the theme...

Just make it be consistent. all "European" (as I and other suggest) or all "colonial"

that works for me. I've never had a problem including Turkey under the title European power. It was someone else's idea to change it but I'll happily change it back if that's preferred.

isaiah40 · Post by **isaiah40** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 7:41 am

Well this map is about the Colonial powers in Africa so I say use "Colonial".

The Bison King · Post by **The Bison King** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:36 am

Oh god, conflicting viewpoints!

I'm going to go to work and when I get back I'm changing it to one or the other. So if you like Colonial power type "Colonial" if you like power "European". I'll go with which ever has the most and move on.

tkr4lf · Post by **tkr4lf** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 11:37 am

Colonial sounds better to me.

RedBaron0 · Post by **RedBaron0** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:34 pm

European.

And speaking of which, the minimap having Turkey floating ambiguously off to the one side is a lil odd. I suggest added the rest of the outline of Europe and connect it to the minimap.

The Bison King · Post by **The Bison King** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:17 pm

Well this got me no where...

the minimap having Turkey floating ambiguously off to the one side is a lil odd. I suggest added the rest of the outline of Europe and connect it to the minimap.

I tried it earlier and got rid of it cause I didn't like it.

ender516 · Post by **ender516** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:30 pm

Maybe you should wait another day for more input. I was busy all day and others might be too. (I prefer "European", because it ties to the "Europe" banner better.)

The Bison King · Post by **The Bison King** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:57 pm

Also I met a Turkish man today, he seemed to count Turkey as part of "Eastern Europe"

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:35 am

The Bison King wrote:Also I met a Turkish man today, he seemed to count Turkey as part of "Eastern Europe"

It is now [read: since Ataturk probably] sometimes included (Wikipedia) though historically it doesn't have much in common with Eastern Europe.

--Andy

natty dread · Post by **natty dread** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:37 am

Any distinction between Europe and Asia is purely artificial anyway.

The Bison King · Post by **The Bison King** » Tue Mar 27, 2012 11:46 am

I'm going with "European"

Also I added a tag in the legend that says "Grey territories belong to no bonus"

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Gillipig · Post by **Gillipig** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 3:27 pm

I took a good look at this map now. Can't see many things I'd like to change. You've done a good job

! However the sea connection between Suez Canal and Luxor is not as clear as it could be! The line almost touches Levant so if you look at it quickly you might think it connects to Levant as well.

English is not my native language so I might be over my head here but I think it should be "belongs to" instead of "belong to" in the legend. Am I right or wrong

?

isaiah40 · Post by **isaiah40** » Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:27 pm

Gillipig wrote:English is not my native language so I might be over my head here but I think it should be "belongs to" instead of "belong to" in the legend. Am I right or wrong ?

It is belong. Maybe it can be written "Grey territories do not belong to any bonus". This way there shouldn't be any questions.

The Bison King · Post by **The Bison King** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 12:06 am

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Gillipig wrote:I took a good look at this map now. Can't see many things I'd like to change. You've done a good job ! However the sea connection between Suez Canal and Luxor is not as clear as it could be! The line almost touches Levant so if you look at it quickly you might think it connects to Levant as well.

Sure, I moved it a pixel or 2 to the left.

isaiah40 wrote:
Gillipig wrote:English is not my native language so I might be over my head here but I think it should be "belongs to" instead of "belong to" in the legend. Am I right or wrong ?
It is belong. Maybe it can be written "Grey territories do not belong to any bonus". This way there shouldn't be any questions.

No, it's correct as is.

Gillipig · Post by **Gillipig** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 6:11 am

In the right corner of the map you've written a couple of territory labels that are not part of the playable map. I think Russia, Persia and Central Asia should stay, but not Burma and Siberia! They're a bit too far away to be included and it doesn't look good to have territory labels on the right side of the legend. Let that area of the map be a mystery

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The sea route looks much clearer now btw.

The Bison King · Post by **The Bison King** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:21 am

Gillipig wrote:In the right corner of the map you've written a couple of territory labels that are not part of the playable map. I think Russia, Persia and Central Asia should stay, but not Burma and Siberia! They're a bit too far away to be included and it doesn't look good to have territory labels on the right side of the legend. Let that area of the map be a mystery .

The sea route looks much clearer now btw.

I don't know, I mean I don't really feel like they're hurting anything. Most people probably won't even notice them until the 2nd or 3rd time they play the map.

RedBaron0 · Post by **RedBaron0** » Sun Apr 01, 2012 11:48 pm

Looks like we're finally out of nitpicks

Gillipig · Post by **Gillipig** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:04 am

Looking forward to be playing this on beta

!
Regarding the subtle names I still feel the same. A bit distracting with Siberia and Burma. Don't feel like they need to be there and they certainly don't add anything to the map even if they don't subtract much either.

natty dread · Post by **natty dread** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 6:23 am

Gillipig wrote: Looking forward to be playing this on beta !
Regarding the subtle names I still feel the same. A bit distracting with Siberia and Burma. Don't feel like they need to be there and they certainly don't add anything to the map even if they don't subtract much either.

No one cares if the names are there or not.

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