Enjoy Your Freedom...While It Lasts.

heavycola · Post by **heavycola** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:47 am

Current fact and research-based theories - a summary

1) The world is governed by: alien lizard overlords living in a subterranean tunnel system/jewish bankers/the pope/non-reptilian aliens

2) Most US senators are satan worshippers/papists hell-bent on world domination on behalf of vatican

3) 9/11 was carefully orchestrated by US government/zionists/lizard overlords/illuminati/mossad/freemasons/tufty club

4) The """plane""" that hit the pentagon was actually a: misile/drone/global hawk/large version of the 'oh no! my car windscreen has been shot!' sticker

5) The Californian bush fires were planned and carried out by the new world order/papist teenage arsonists/genetically engineered lizard minions who shoot firey death rays out of their eyes

6) Yesterday a nice man came round to my house and inserted microchips into my forehead and the foreheads of my whole family. He said they would enable the government to control us from space on account of the terrorists and whatnot. Well, we're nothing if not patriotic and it's great to know they are looking out for us.
God Bless Israel/the Crab nebula/the NAU/the new and improved world order

Frigidus · Post by **Frigidus** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 10:06 am

heavycola wrote:Current fact and research-based theories - a summary

1) The world is governed by: alien lizard overlords living in a subterranean tunnel system/jewish bankers/the pope/non-reptilian aliens

2) Most US senators are satan worshippers/papists hell-bent on world domination on behalf of vatican

3) 9/11 was carefully orchestrated by US government/zionists/lizard overlords/illuminati/mossad/freemasons/tufty club

4) The """plane""" that hit the pentagon was actually a: misile/drone/global hawk/large version of the 'oh no! my car windscreen has been shot!' sticker

5) The Californian bush fires were planned and carried out by the new world order/papist teenage arsonists/genetically engineered lizard minions who shoot firey death rays out of their eyes

6) Yesterday a nice man came round to my house and inserted microchips into my forehead and the foreheads of my whole family. He said they would enable the government to control us from space on account of the terrorists and whatnot. Well, we're nothing if not patriotic and it's great to know they are looking out for us.
God Bless Israel/the Crab nebula/the NAU/the new and improved world order

Hey, it's kind of like Madlibs. Those things were great.

Snorri1234 · Post by **Snorri1234** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 10:18 am

jay_a2j wrote: The funny thing is...Ron Paul says "they attacked us because we have been over there in their business for decades"....Guliani laughs at him and says, "They attacked us because they hate our freedoms". Now, lets be realistic.....which sounds like the better reason?

But I'm the crazy one...yeah ok.

Good thing to know that you finnally came round to what many people were already saying. I thought I wouldn't see the day when a republican would admit that the reason they attacked the US was because the US was being annoying to them. The reason that Al Quaida and shit got so many recruits was because those recruits were angry at the US. They needed just a little indoctrination.

But are you saying that you do believe there are actually terrorists? Because I'm very confused right now.

jay_a2j · Post by **jay_a2j** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 10:29 am

Snorri1234 wrote:
jay_a2j wrote: The funny thing is...Ron Paul says "they attacked us because we have been over there in their business for decades"....Guliani laughs at him and says, "They attacked us because they hate our freedoms". Now, lets be realistic.....which sounds like the better reason?

But I'm the crazy one...yeah ok.
Good thing to know that you finnally came round to what many people were already saying. I thought I wouldn't see the day when a republican would admit that the reason they attacked the US was because the US was being annoying to them. The reason that Al Quaida and shit got so many recruits was because those recruits were angry at the US. They needed just a little indoctrination.

But are you saying that you do believe there are actually terrorists? Because I'm very confused right now.

Just stating the differences in the "reasons" they "attacked" us. Paul's reason is far more logical, then "They hate our freedoms". No, I firmly believe that we are over there fighting a made up enemy. Of course they are real people over there fighting to defend their land and themselves. But this war is a lie. And I realize, because I was one on them, that it is hard to see things as they really are because the media bombards you with what they want you to see.

got tonkaed · Post by **got tonkaed** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 10:32 am

tbh....pauls rationale behind it is just as wrong as guilani.....

tell all the kids eating up american pop culture in the middle east that they hate our way of live, our "freedoms", and im sure they will declare shenanigans.

However, in many cases, the truth is a fluid concept. If ideas can rally people together enough to start a war, its truth enough for the purpose of it i suppose.

Snorri1234 · Post by **Snorri1234** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 10:53 am

got tonkaed wrote:tbh....pauls rationale behind it is just as wrong as guilani.....

tell all the kids eating up american pop culture in the middle east that they hate our way of live, our "freedoms", and im sure they will declare shenanigans.

Not all kids ofcourse. But it's not hard to find easily influencable kids and make them religious nuts. (Might I add that it's guiliani that says they hate freedom?)
I mean, the same is happening right here, where some kids get indoctrinated by imams because they think our culture is degrading theirs.

It's much easier to be angry when you see the influences of the enemy so close to home.

b.k. barunt · Post by **b.k. barunt** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 11:38 am

There has been a cadre of string pulling puppetmasters manipulating things behind the scenes since Constantine. For over a thousand years the Catholic powers were predominant, but after the great plague in Europe their credibility was compromised and the non church powers, or "Intelligentia" came into their own. The Catholics still hold great power - hell, they (not asshat Reagan) won the Cold War and destroyed Russian Communism - but the non-Catholic "illuminati", whoeverthefuck they are, hold sway.

Look at our presidents - they are lame ass yes men who are nothing but figureheads - the last one with any real worldly savvy was Nixon, and by that time "they" realized that a strong president was too dangerous, and jettisoned ole Tricky Dicky. So when you want to know who really engineered something like 911 (Bush couldn't engineer a fucking Risk win), see who benefited the most from it, and you'll probably be on the right track.

Honibaz

muy_thaiguy · Post by **muy_thaiguy** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 11:40 am

b.k. barunt wrote:There has been a cadre of string pulling puppetmasters manipulating things behind the scenes since Constantine. For over a thousand years the Catholic powers were predominant, but after the great plague in Europe their credibility was compromised and the non church powers, or "Intelligentia" came into their own. The Catholics still hold great power - hell, they (not asshat Reagan) won the Cold War and destroyed Russian Communism - but the non-Catholic "illuminati", whoeverthefuck they are, hold sway.

Look at our presidents - they are lame ass yes men who are nothing but figureheads - the last one with any real worldly savvy was Nixon, and by that time "they" realized that a strong president was too dangerous, and jettisoned ole Tricky Dicky. So when you want to know who really engineered something like 911 (Bush couldn't engineer a fucking Risk win), see who benefited the most from it, and you'll probably be on the right track.

Honibaz

Aren't you supposed to be one of those guys that hated Nixon?

mr. incrediball · Post by **mr. incrediball** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 11:41 am

b.k. barunt wrote:see who benefited the most from it, and you'll probably be on the right track.

the... pissed of muslims?

jay_a2j · Post by **jay_a2j** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 12:09 pm

got tonkaed wrote:tbh....pauls rationale behind it is just as wrong as guilani.....

It is, because they never attacked us.

tell all the kids eating up american pop culture in the middle east that they hate our way of live, our "freedoms", and im sure they will declare shenanigans.

Yet Giuliani wants us to believe it. BTW Didn't Bush say the same thing?

However, in many cases, the truth is a fluid concept. If ideas can rally people together enough to start a war, its truth enough for the purpose of it i suppose.

What if the "idea's" are false? Is it supposed to become "truth" to validate a war?

atheistheretic · Post by **atheistheretic** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:00 pm

I think i see what happened to "jay" when confounded with false evidence mixed with evidence for other things, he thought it was all true. not testing things like he should have. Happens to a lot of people.

The truth is a healthy in between, as usual. Its a sad fact that the government typically has its own and the lobbyist best interests at heart. it is a sad fact that the bush administration is evil and could very well have done 9/11, after all they did abu-ghraib.

p.s"this modern world" has it set to just the right dial, you may want to start reading that commentary.

comic boy · Post by **comic boy** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 7:10 pm

Another day of freedom

unriggable · Post by **unriggable** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 7:13 pm

I vaguely remember you supporting this shit a few months ago jay.

b.k. barunt · Post by **b.k. barunt** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 7:14 pm

muy_thaiguy wrote:
b.k. barunt wrote:There has been a cadre of string pulling puppetmasters manipulating things behind the scenes since Constantine. For over a thousand years the Catholic powers were predominant, but after the great plague in Europe their credibility was compromised and the non church powers, or "Intelligentia" came into their own. The Catholics still hold great power - hell, they (not asshat Reagan) won the Cold War and destroyed Russian Communism - but the non-Catholic "illuminati", whoeverthefuck they are, hold sway.

Look at our presidents - they are lame ass yes men who are nothing but figureheads - the last one with any real worldly savvy was Nixon, and by that time "they" realized that a strong president was too dangerous, and jettisoned ole Tricky Dicky. So when you want to know who really engineered something like 911 (Bush couldn't engineer a fucking Risk win), see who benefited the most from it, and you'll probably be on the right track.

Honibaz
Aren't you supposed to be one of those guys that hated Nixon?

Anyone with a shred of decency hated Nixon - he was a fucking Nazi that raped our constitution while he was waving the flag, but he was a strong leader - so was Hitler - does that mean i liked him?

Btw, who is the mouth breathing moron who thought "the pissed of muslims" were the ones who benefitted the most from 911? As far as monetary gains, Dick Cheney and his daddy's company benefitted the most (Bush sr. is now chairman of the board at Haliburton), and Bush jr. got a shitload of shares when he sold the vice presidency to Dicky.
Politically speaking, the Republican party gained almost absolute power there for a while, but as far as the "pissed of muslims", hell they got a brief shot in the arm, then a major kick in the ass - only a complete idiot would think that they were the ones who benefitted. Go figure.

Honibaz

muy_thaiguy · Post by **muy_thaiguy** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 8:46 pm

It sounded as if you almost admired him, in a strange way, bk.

b.k. barunt · Post by **b.k. barunt** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 9:26 pm

Admiration would be the wrong word, as would respect. I acknowledge his abilities in foreign policy, as i would acknowledge the ability of a rat that's smart enough to get the cheese out of the trap without springing it. I have no admiration for Nixon or anyone else who fucked this country to feather their own nest, but at least he didn't add insult to injury by being a moron like Bush or Clinton. He was a goofy looking bastard though, and i don't think he ever fucked his wife (the kids weren't his).

Honibaz

muy_thaiguy · Post by **muy_thaiguy** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 9:27 pm

b.k. barunt wrote:Admiration would be the wrong word, as would respect. I acknowledge his abilities in foreign policy, as i would acknowledge the ability of a rat that's smart enough to get the cheese out of the trap without springing it. I have no admiration for Nixon or anyone else who fucked this country to feather their own nest, but at least he didn't add insult to injury by being a moron like Bush or Clinton. He was a goofy looking bastard though, and i don't think he ever fucked his wife (the kids weren't his).

Honibaz

Ah, I see now.

unriggable · Post by **unriggable** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 10:03 pm

The point is that jay you elected the people who do this into office, what do you think of yourself now?

jay_a2j · Post by **jay_a2j** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 10:47 pm

unriggable wrote:The point is that jay you elected the people who do this into office, what do you think of yourself now?

Do you know how the election process works? Like my 1 vote put Bush in office? Furthermore, it doesn't matter.... anyone who becomes president is a puppet of the NWO. If they go against them.... you get a JFK.

Neutrino · Post by **Neutrino** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:39 am

jay_a2j wrote:
unriggable wrote:The point is that jay you elected the people who do this into office, what do you think of yourself now?

Do you know how the election process works? Like my 1 vote put Bush in office? Furthermore, it doesn't matter.... anyone who becomes president is a puppet of the NWO. If they go against them.... you get a JFK.

Then why do you care? If it's so inevitable, why go to such great lengths to convince people that it is going to happen? Hell, why do you support Ron Paul so vigorously? If you somehow managed to get him elected all you'd be doing is signing his death warrant.

bradleybadly · Post by **bradleybadly** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:57 am

jay_a2j wrote:anyone who becomes president is a puppet of the NWO.

The Old World Order isn't going to be to happy to hear about this. Perhaps we could get the OWO vs. the NWO in a cage match on the UFC.

muy_thaiguy · Post by **muy_thaiguy** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 1:11 am

bradleybadly wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:anyone who becomes president is a puppet of the NWO.
The Old World Order isn't going to be to happy to hear about this. Perhaps we could get the OWO vs. the NWO in a cage match on the UFC.

I thought they did that in WCW back in the 90s.

bradleybadly · Post by **bradleybadly** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 1:31 am

muy_thaiguy wrote:
bradleybadly wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:anyone who becomes president is a puppet of the NWO.
The Old World Order isn't going to be to happy to hear about this. Perhaps we could get the OWO vs. the NWO in a cage match on the UFC.
I thought they did that in WCW back in the 90s.

That's a lot of acronyms regardless

jay_a2j · Post by **jay_a2j** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 1:32 am

bradleybadly wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:anyone who becomes president is a puppet of the NWO.
The Old World Order isn't going to be to happy to hear about this. Perhaps we could get the OWO vs. the NWO in a cage match on the UFC.

Yeah, lets make fun of it. Does anyone watch what's going on anymore?

Sept.11 1991 George H.W. Bush gave a speech about bringing in the New World Order. GOOGLE IT

When running for President in 1996, Dan Quayle gave an interview talking about the NWO. GOOGLE IT

Do some research! Or sit there and make light of something that WILL affect you in an adverse way in the future. The choice is yours.

Only Fascism Can Liberate America!

Torturing People Makes Them Like Us!

We Need to Destroy America in Order to Save Her!

A "Decider" King is What Our Founding Fathers Wanted!

Supressing the Truth is What Makes Us American!

Big Brother Is Our Friend!

Don't Investigate 9/11 . . . The Truth Might Be Scary!

Free Speech is Anti-American!

We Need a Dictator In Order To Save Our Freedom!

Iliad · Post by **Iliad** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 1:46 am

jay_a2j wrote:
bradleybadly wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:anyone who becomes president is a puppet of the NWO.
The Old World Order isn't going to be to happy to hear about this. Perhaps we could get the OWO vs. the NWO in a cage match on the UFC.

Yeah, lets make fun of it. Does anyone watch what's going on anymore?

Sept.11 1991 George H.W. Bush gave a speech about bringing in the New World Order. GOOGLE IT

When running for President in 1996, Dan Quayle gave an interview talking about the NWO. GOOGLE IT

Do some research! Or sit there and make light of something that WILL affect you in an adverse way in the future. The choice is yours.

Only Fascism Can Liberate America!

Torturing People Makes Them Like Us!

We Need to Destroy America in Order to Save Her!

A "Decider" King is What Our Founding Fathers Wanted!

Supressing the Truth is What Makes Us American!

Big Brother Is Our Friend!

Don't Investigate 9/11 . . . The Truth Might Be Scary!

Free Speech is Anti-American!

We Need a Dictator In Order To Save Our Freedom!

Wow well those sentences really help your point, jay!

And jay you are the one who's trying to prove a point here, give us the links