EQUAL RIGHT FOR ALL MAP AUTHORS

mibi · Post by **mibi** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 4:20 pm

boberz wrote:perhaps he does not need to seeing as there is plenty of comments coming in and he does have a life he does not need to be the most involved poster for every map. NO COMITEE. nothing ever gets done in a comitee i dare you to go to any commitee from a locall tennis club to the EU and find a positive, they all dont take quick and decisive action any knows what he is doing and doe sit well the process works so long as people are prepared to work o their maps.

the foundry is the largest design by committee process I have ever seen.

hulmey · Post by **hulmey** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 5:52 pm

A foundry board would be a good idea because you would bring more styles and brains to the process...

And yes Andy has a life thats why it would be a good idea to have a 5 man members to take some of the presure of him!!!

boberz · Post by **boberz** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 8:49 am

no the foundry is not a comitee process you have designers, commenters and andy; things only dont get done when designers or commenters think they can overule andy. So long as andy can make a decision and everybody follows his lead we will be sorted. As i say if you dont like the process draw a map print it off and play with your mates otherwise do not complain that a map is not progressing fast enough.

spinwizard · Post by **spinwizard** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 8:53 am

andy has not commented on my 2 mpas yet!

do u guyz have any comments?

Backglass · Post by **Backglass** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 9:07 am

hulmey wrote:veto=dictaorship

So the USA is a dictatorship? All this time and I never knew.

Qwert · Post by **Qwert** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 9:13 am

If Andy dont have time to folow all maps, then definitly must have 2 or 3 map foundry helper too look all maps, in my map i also have these problem, if he have time to folow all my topic then he will know what people like and what dont, in these way, when he dont folow work in map, he can ask something what all ready pass Majority aproval, and these not right.

spinwizard · Post by **spinwizard** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 9:23 am

andy should have 4 assistents-

yetti_c (codeing)
Keogei/teya (graphics/ gameplay)
dim/??? (abstract ideas)
querty/humly (graphics/gameplay)

something like that, what do u think?

boberz · Post by **boberz** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 9:32 am

he does follow all maps but he does not have to comment in detail about every one if there are many other comments also if he is not sold on an idea he often does not cxommetn untill he can guage support. And by the way america may as well be a dictatorship at times.

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 9:41 am

spinwizard wrote:andy should have 4 assistents-

yetti_c (codeing)
Keogei/teya (graphics/ gameplay)
dim/??? (abstract ideas)
querty/humly (graphics/gameplay)

something like that, what do u think?

mayby
mayby/mayby
nope
nope

spinwizard · Post by **spinwizard** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 10:21 am

Wisse wrote:
spinwizard wrote:andy should have 4 assistents-

yetti_c (codeing)
Keogei/teya (graphics/ gameplay)
dim/??? (abstract ideas)
querty/humly (graphics/gameplay)

something like that, what do u think?
mayby
mayby/mayby
nope
nope

Y NOT THE LAST 2, THEY COVER DIFFERENT VIEWS!

Ruben Cassar · Post by **Ruben Cassar** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 10:24 am

spinwizard wrote:andy should have 4 assistents-

yetti_c (codeing)
Keogei/teya (graphics/ gameplay)
dim/??? (abstract ideas)
querty/humly (graphics/gameplay)

something like that, what do u think?

I don't think Andy is following this thread at all.

However why should he need someone to assist him with coding or abstract ideas (???) for example? Coding just needs to be done and that's it.

Andy gives input on what to improve in a map (mostly playability and graphics) and determines at what stage of development the map is. He also decides when it gets quenched.

What could probably be implemented is more people to help Andy with a holistic approach to the foundry. People who would check maps when Andy is not available and help him follow the map progress in general.

However it's useless debating on this issue unless Andy or the mods are involved as they have to decide if this needs to be done or not.

Molacole · Post by **Molacole** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 10:25 am

Wisse wrote:
Molacole wrote:1. qwert you need a binky
2. you need to work on your english because you have obvious comprehension problems.
3. stop being so stubborn you can't alway get your way
4. f*ck off already...
1. mind your own bissinus (^sp)
2. you don't have to speak perfect english...
3. if you don't like your food are you gonna eat it because somone next to you sais (^sp) you have to?
4. do it yourself

1. public forum?
2. we're not speaking and yes comprehension seems to be a big issue
3. I'm not hungry and well, you make no sense...
4. get off of qwerts dick already or atleast come up for air...

Molacole · Post by **Molacole** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 10:40 am

qwert wrote:well when mibi complete satisfy all desire of people, then will Andy kick hes brain with something minor thing.
i must say that rule of 1 man is also not good, you can apply all of majority, but when andy say something, then he dont care what majority say, you must do what he say, these like dictatorship, becouse before andy, nobody comlain whit my borders shape. But andy start mutiny and now i must for all litle things to put vote poll.

qwert andy is here to make sure maps are made to their full potential! Part of his job is to make sure that no half assed maps get quenched. You seem to think that your opinion is greater than andys and act like because you say you're happy with the map it should be quenched.

The way andy works the foundry has NEVER been an issue until you came along. But andy is the problem right? lol get off your fucking high horse and fix any and every probem with your map if you want it to get quenched. If you refuse to make maps to the best of your ability you have nobody to blame, but yourself when they don't get quenched.

this isn't qwerty club...

if it was something that drastically changed your map or a request you weren't even capable of doing then yeah I would find something wrong with that. Seeing as so many things that get requested you either shoot down, completely ignore or say that's not how it's suppossed to be. Yeah I agree you make polls, but don't act like you make a poll for all your suggestions because you don't. I've seen numerous times on your threads where you ignored peoples input or just tell them you don't like the idea. So don't act like you're always trying to please the majority...

hulmey · Post by **hulmey** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 11:11 am

1. your a d***
2. your breath smells like pussy
3. you suck ****
4. hehehe

Qwert · Post by **Qwert** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 11:20 am

Molacole stop insulting in map foundry, these is a warning, you brake rules.

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 12:37 pm

I've been following the thread, and many other maps threads. (I don't always post, because I can see that the 'Foundry Process' is working. I.E. I don't need to guide the map with my hand, the members are doing so).

In regards to the original Cartography Committee, read up on it, and see how it was shot down.

I've got something in the works, so stay tuned.

Oh, and stop flaming everyone. This will be the first public warning, then I will warn the individuals on a PM basis, and if you continue, I'll be happy to rid you of Our Foundry for a few days with a Minor Forum Ban. Take it all to the Flame Wars.

--Andy

hulmey · Post by **hulmey** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 12:54 pm

well said andy *clap clap*

Qwert · Post by **Qwert** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 1:37 pm

Thanks andy

Guiscard · Post by **Guiscard** » Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:09 am

hulmey wrote:1. your a d***
2. your breath smells like pussy
3. you suck ****
4. hehehe

Andy wrote:Oh, and stop flaming everyone. This will be the first public warning

Hulmey wrote:well said andy *clap clap*

Qwert · Post by **Qwert** » Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:20 am

Look Molacole what wrote Guiscard>

boberz · Post by **boberz** » Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:50 am

guys come on without flaming or insulting or specifically talking about qwert is there anything wrong with the foundry procces and if so what at the moment i think it is good but i can imagine that andy is struggling with time

joystickgenie · Post by **joystickgenie** » Mon Apr 02, 2007 1:59 pm

Well, I don’t think there is a problem with getting moderator comments on a map. The people here in the foundry give back a lot of comments so as long as the map is progressing I think that’s fine.

The only problems I could see is that the developmental atlas seems to be missing a lot of maps that are in development. One of the things that seems to be a prerequisite to getting you map on the atlas is for Andy to personally like the map. I don’t think there is any possibility to get your map forged if you aren’t even listed on the atlas. Getting a few people to look over the maps officially could help. There are historic maps, world geography maps, fantasy maps, and abstract maps and I don’t that there is any one who likes all of these. Having a couple people in official capacity would allow for people with varying tastes to look over the maps and possibly make it a little more objective.

Ruben Cassar · Post by **Ruben Cassar** » Mon Apr 02, 2007 2:06 pm

joystickgenie wrote:Well, I don’t think there is a problem with getting moderator comments on a map. The people here in the foundry give back a lot of comments so as long as the map is progressing I think that’s fine.

The only problems I could see is that the developmental atlas seems to be missing a lot of maps that are in development. One of the things that seems to be a prerequisite to getting you map on the atlas is for Andy to personally like the map. I don’t think there is any possibility to get your map forged if you aren’t even listed on the atlas. Getting a few people to look over the maps officially could help. There are historic maps, world geography maps, fantasy maps, and abstract maps and I don’t that there is any one who likes all of these. Having a couple people in official capacity would allow for people with varying tastes to look over the maps and possibly make it a little more objective.

You have a point on this one. Never thought of it that way.

hulmey · Post by **hulmey** » Mon Apr 02, 2007 4:48 pm

YEAH I AGREE WITH THAT AS WELL JOY...WEll put....

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Mon Apr 02, 2007 5:54 pm

Ruben Cassar wrote:
joystickgenie wrote:Well, I don’t think there is a problem with getting moderator comments on a map. The people here in the foundry give back a lot of comments so as long as the map is progressing I think that’s fine.

The only problems I could see is that the developmental atlas seems to be missing a lot of maps that are in development. One of the things that seems to be a prerequisite to getting you map on the atlas is for Andy to personally like the map. I don’t think there is any possibility to get your map forged if you aren’t even listed on the atlas. Getting a few people to look over the maps officially could help. There are historic maps, world geography maps, fantasy maps, and abstract maps and I don’t that there is any one who likes all of these. Having a couple people in official capacity would allow for people with varying tastes to look over the maps and possibly make it a little more objective.
You have a point on this one. Never thought of it that way.

It's not, I just haven't updated it. You'll understand why in one my next announcements for the Foundry.

--Andy

EQUAL RIGHT FOR ALL MAP AUTHORS

DO YOU THINK THAT ALL AUTHORS MUST HAVE SAME RIGHT