I read somewhere that even a majority of people who define themselves an conservatives now support gays in the military. I honestly don't see anyones problem with it, dozens of countries already do it without any of the scaremongering stories coming true.Snorri1234 wrote:Well yeah I think everyone here (except for Hapsmo) thinks the military should get openly gay personel.Woodruff wrote:Much as the Don't Ask Don't Tell policy sucks ass...if he DOES get it repealed, he better have a replacement for it (preferably the ability for the services to actually recruit openly-homosexual individuals). If he doesn't have a replacement for it, that will be a very bad thing.Titanic wrote:Thats really annoyed me as well, although he is supposed to be mentioning Dont Ask Dont Tell tonight and trying to get it repealed before the midterms.thegreekdog wrote: - Gay marriage - F (He hasn't pushed for gay marriage discussions)
What Is Your Opinion On Obama?
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Titanic wrote:I read somewhere that even a majority of people who define themselves an conservatives now support gays in the military. I honestly don't see anyones problem with it, dozens of countries already do it without any of the scaremongering stories coming true.Snorri1234 wrote:Well yeah I think everyone here (except for Hapsmo) thinks the military should get openly gay personel.Woodruff wrote:Much as the Don't Ask Don't Tell policy sucks ass...if he DOES get it repealed, he better have a replacement for it (preferably the ability for the services to actually recruit openly-homosexual individuals). If he doesn't have a replacement for it, that will be a very bad thing.Titanic wrote:Thats really annoyed me as well, although he is supposed to be mentioning Dont Ask Dont Tell tonight and trying to get it repealed before the midterms.thegreekdog wrote: - Gay marriage - F (He hasn't pushed for gay marriage discussions)
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thegreekdog wrote:Your reaction was funny is all... and I have a new signature.Skittles! wrote:I don't know if that is a good thing or a bad thingthegreekdog wrote:Skittles! wrote:WHY DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND THIS. f*ck.jay_a2j wrote:My grades:
Economy- D and Bush would get the same score. As if spending your way out of debt is logical? I don't think the economy will get better but worse.![]()
Seriously, I laughed out loud!
Must be an inside joke.
Were you asking a question? Cause it didn't end in a question mark yet it was worded as a question.
And if it was a question, yes I understand it it just seems like our President doesn't. (And apparently you don't either)
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BUT THEY'LL BE TRYING TO f*ck MY ASS WHILE WE'RE IN THE FOXHOLE!!!!!Titanic wrote:I read somewhere that even a majority of people who define themselves an conservatives now support gays in the military. I honestly don't see anyones problem with it, dozens of countries already do it without any of the scaremongering stories coming true.Snorri1234 wrote:Well yeah I think everyone here (except for Hapsmo) thinks the military should get openly gay personel.Woodruff wrote:Much as the Don't Ask Don't Tell policy sucks ass...if he DOES get it repealed, he better have a replacement for it (preferably the ability for the services to actually recruit openly-homosexual individuals). If he doesn't have a replacement for it, that will be a very bad thing.Titanic wrote:Thats really annoyed me as well, although he is supposed to be mentioning Dont Ask Dont Tell tonight and trying to get it repealed before the midterms.thegreekdog wrote: - Gay marriage - F (He hasn't pushed for gay marriage discussions)
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I really think it's sad that most ppl are blaming him for shit W signed into law while he was in office;
1. The bailouts Obama's being blamed for were W initiatives, signed in late '08 just before the elections. Obama said then it was unlikely to work, but W signed them into law.
2. The Afghanistan campaign he said all along we had to up, because W sent our main forces into the wrong country.
3. Troops in Iraq are needed because those people are so angry at us for W sending our troops into the wrong country; now that we've caused chaos there, it would be dumb to simply pull out rather than try to figure a way to PEACEFULLY pull out.
4. Economy went to sh*t on W's watch, Obama said all along it would take years to recover, but some of the recovery has started because of OBAMA initiatives.
5. Health care. Obama NEVER said he wanted a socialist system of healthcare, he simply said he wanted CONGRESS to find a way to give health care to all Americans because we spend more of our gnp on healthcare and have one of the unhealthiest nations as a whole.
6. Apologies to other nations because W and co. engaged in tactics outside the treaties we've signed; tactics that we've prosecuted other dictators for engaging in. Good for you; if an apology keeps the US out of criminal war court, good for YOU.
7. Rule of law: Much as I don't want terrorists to have the benefit of our laws, that IS what our Constitution outlines. It sucks. I'd like to see all rapists and molesters castrated, all murderers beheaded, and all terrorists torn apart starting with finger and toenails; unfortunately, that's not how our Constitution - which Obama was elected to uphold - outlines. So, good for you for upholding the laws as written.
Thumbs up, Obama: unlike many of your predecessors, you're a critical thinker --- like Reagan was.
NOW ask me how I feel about Congress and our Supreme Court and see how my answers change from thumbs up to rotten tomatoes!!! And W and co. deserve to be tried for treason for pulling some of the stunts they did, but that'll never happen.
1. The bailouts Obama's being blamed for were W initiatives, signed in late '08 just before the elections. Obama said then it was unlikely to work, but W signed them into law.
2. The Afghanistan campaign he said all along we had to up, because W sent our main forces into the wrong country.
3. Troops in Iraq are needed because those people are so angry at us for W sending our troops into the wrong country; now that we've caused chaos there, it would be dumb to simply pull out rather than try to figure a way to PEACEFULLY pull out.
4. Economy went to sh*t on W's watch, Obama said all along it would take years to recover, but some of the recovery has started because of OBAMA initiatives.
5. Health care. Obama NEVER said he wanted a socialist system of healthcare, he simply said he wanted CONGRESS to find a way to give health care to all Americans because we spend more of our gnp on healthcare and have one of the unhealthiest nations as a whole.
6. Apologies to other nations because W and co. engaged in tactics outside the treaties we've signed; tactics that we've prosecuted other dictators for engaging in. Good for you; if an apology keeps the US out of criminal war court, good for YOU.
7. Rule of law: Much as I don't want terrorists to have the benefit of our laws, that IS what our Constitution outlines. It sucks. I'd like to see all rapists and molesters castrated, all murderers beheaded, and all terrorists torn apart starting with finger and toenails; unfortunately, that's not how our Constitution - which Obama was elected to uphold - outlines. So, good for you for upholding the laws as written.
Thumbs up, Obama: unlike many of your predecessors, you're a critical thinker --- like Reagan was.
NOW ask me how I feel about Congress and our Supreme Court and see how my answers change from thumbs up to rotten tomatoes!!! And W and co. deserve to be tried for treason for pulling some of the stunts they did, but that'll never happen.

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While I don't agree with GW Bush's bailouts, I believe President Obama signed some of his own bailouts.stahrgazer wrote:1. The bailouts Obama's being blamed for were W initiatives, signed in late '08 just before the elections. Obama said then it was unlikely to work, but W signed them into law.
No, actually... President Obama never said this.stahrgazer wrote:2. The Afghanistan campaign he said all along we had to up, because W sent our main forces into the wrong country.
Yes... but Obama ran on taking troops out of Iraq (some might argue that it was one of his top 3 planks)... and so far he has not kept that campaign promise.stahrgazer wrote:3. Troops in Iraq are needed because those people are so angry at us for W sending our troops into the wrong country; now that we've caused chaos there, it would be dumb to simply pull out rather than try to figure a way to PEACEFULLY pull out.
Agree to the everything before the first comma; disagree with everything after the second comma.stahrgazer wrote:4. Economy went to sh*t on W's watch, Obama said all along it would take years to recover, but some of the recovery has started because of OBAMA initiatives.
I'm not sure what this means.stahrgazer wrote:6. Apologies to other nations because W and co. engaged in tactics outside the treaties we've signed; tactics that we've prosecuted other dictators for engaging in. Good for you; if an apology keeps the US out of criminal war court, good for YOU.
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stahrgazer wrote:I really think it's sad that most ppl are blaming him for shit W signed into law while he was in office;
1. The bailouts Obama's being blamed for were W initiatives, signed in late '08 just before the elections. Obama said then it was unlikely to work, but W signed them into law.
2. The Afghanistan campaign he said all along we had to up, because W sent our main forces into the wrong country.
3. Troops in Iraq are needed because those people are so angry at us for W sending our troops into the wrong country; now that we've caused chaos there, it would be dumb to simply pull out rather than try to figure a way to PEACEFULLY pull out.
4. Economy went to sh*t on W's watch, Obama said all along it would take years to recover, but some of the recovery has started because of OBAMA initiatives.
5. Health care. Obama NEVER said he wanted a socialist system of healthcare, he simply said he wanted CONGRESS to find a way to give health care to all Americans because we spend more of our gnp on healthcare and have one of the unhealthiest nations as a whole.
6. Apologies to other nations because W and co. engaged in tactics outside the treaties we've signed; tactics that we've prosecuted other dictators for engaging in. Good for you; if an apology keeps the US out of criminal war court, good for YOU.
7. Rule of law: Much as I don't want terrorists to have the benefit of our laws, that IS what our Constitution outlines. It sucks. I'd like to see all rapists and molesters castrated, all murderers beheaded, and all terrorists torn apart starting with finger and toenails; unfortunately, that's not how our Constitution - which Obama was elected to uphold - outlines. So, good for you for upholding the laws as written.
Thumbs up, Obama: unlike many of your predecessors, you're a critical thinker --- like Reagan was.
NOW ask me how I feel about Congress and our Supreme Court and see how my answers change from thumbs up to rotten tomatoes!!! And W and co. deserve to be tried for treason for pulling some of the stunts they did, but that'll never happen.
This poster is either completely misinformed or is in a serious state of denial. Bush's bailout was Bush's bailout. Obama's bailout is Obama's bailout.(And I think he has 2 of them) Obama bailed out the auto industry, has NOTHING to do with Bush. Some stimulus huh? 1 year later and over 500 billion has yet to be spent! That's not a stimulus package, it's a spending package.
Troops in the wrong country eh? Then why are they STILL in Iraq??????????
Some of the recovery has already started? Then PLEASE explain the REAL 17% unemployment rate!
A Senator has said that there are several things in the health care bill that are UNCONSTITUTIONAL. Now why would they ignore the Constitution? Why would you even present unconstitutional items in a bill?
On the subject of the Constitution, why fall back on it when we are talking about terrorists be ignore it elsewhere?
Wake up.
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Lol. Lololololol.jay_a2j wrote:That's not a stimulus package, it's a spending package.
FUCKING LOL.
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Wait...I'm pretty sure Obama said Afghanistan was to be the main focus of the war and not Iraq....thegreekdog wrote:No, actually... President Obama never said this.stahrgazer wrote:2. The Afghanistan campaign he said all along we had to up, because W sent our main forces into the wrong country.
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Yer, he said it was the "good war" or "right war", something like that.Snorri1234 wrote:Wait...I'm pretty sure Obama said Afghanistan was to be the main focus of the war and not Iraq....thegreekdog wrote:No, actually... President Obama never said this.stahrgazer wrote:2. The Afghanistan campaign he said all along we had to up, because W sent our main forces into the wrong country.
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I was referring to the "up" part.Titanic wrote:Yer, he said it was the "good war" or "right war", something like that.Snorri1234 wrote:Wait...I'm pretty sure Obama said Afghanistan was to be the main focus of the war and not Iraq....thegreekdog wrote:No, actually... President Obama never said this.stahrgazer wrote:2. The Afghanistan campaign he said all along we had to up, because W sent our main forces into the wrong country.
Re: What Is Your Opinion On Obama?
- Economy - F (his job creation bills didn't work, his bailouts promote reckless risk taking, his spending is out of control and laying the groundwork for future inflation... but, as the economy improves naturally, he'll take credit presumably)
- National security - B (Christmas bomber, his Homeland director saying she was most concerned about white soldiers returning home and joining hate groups; but, no big attacks)
- Healthcare - F (There is not a problem with healthcare for most people in this country)
- Taxes - D (He is allowing the Bush tax cuts to expire)
- Immigration - Inc (Not sure what he has done on this)
Its still up in the air whether he will wind up Jimmie Carter bad (where you f*ck up the country for 15 years) or Franklin Roosevelt bad (where you f*ck up the country for 100's of years).
I borrowed this from thegreekdog so some of the words are his under National Security and Economy.
- National security - B (Christmas bomber, his Homeland director saying she was most concerned about white soldiers returning home and joining hate groups; but, no big attacks)
- Healthcare - F (There is not a problem with healthcare for most people in this country)
- Taxes - D (He is allowing the Bush tax cuts to expire)
- Immigration - Inc (Not sure what he has done on this)
Its still up in the air whether he will wind up Jimmie Carter bad (where you f*ck up the country for 15 years) or Franklin Roosevelt bad (where you f*ck up the country for 100's of years).
I borrowed this from thegreekdog so some of the words are his under National Security and Economy.
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So basically you're saying that Obama is wrong because of the lies you spout?rockfist wrote: - Healthcare - F (There is not a problem with healthcare for most people in this country)
Awesome.
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Tim: Yes, one involves a lot of physical and psychological pain, and the other one's war.
Duane: You know what they say about love and war.
Tim: Yes, one involves a lot of physical and psychological pain, and the other one's war.
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The tax cuts which have added over $2tn to the deficit? What a b*stard for letting those expire....rockfist wrote: - Taxes - D (He is allowing the Bush tax cuts to expire)
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If tax cuts add to a deficit, then why does California have the biggest deficit problems, while having one of the highest tax rates in the country?Titanic wrote:The tax cuts which have added over $2tn to the deficit? What a b*stard for letting those expire....rockfist wrote: - Taxes - D (He is allowing the Bush tax cuts to expire)
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Because the Bush tax cuts never made the necessary changes to to the budget to make them accountable. They kept spending the same and reduced taxes = deficit. I am no expert on the Californian budget, but I'm guessing they increased spending faster then they increased taxes, that normally leads to deficits.Phatscotty wrote:If tax cuts add to a deficit, then why does California have the biggest deficit problems, while having one of the highest tax rates in the country?Titanic wrote:The tax cuts which have added over $2tn to the deficit? What a b*stard for letting those expire....rockfist wrote: - Taxes - D (He is allowing the Bush tax cuts to expire)
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maybe because they elected this guy governorPhatscotty wrote: If tax cuts add to a deficit, then why does California have the biggest deficit problems, while having one of the highest tax rates in the country?


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There are numerous polls that show most people are happy with their health care. I suppose they are all malicious lies. Try removing your head from your anal cavity it might give you a better perspective.Snorri1234 wrote:So basically you're saying that Obama is wrong because of the lies you spout?rockfist wrote: - Healthcare - F (There is not a problem with healthcare for most people in this country)
Awesome.
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Obama is furthering Bush's policies as written, not doing anything to reverse them. Thus, he deserves just as much blame as Bush does for those policies.stahrgazer wrote: Thumbs up, Obama: unlike many of your predecessors, you're a critical thinker --- like Reagan was.
NOW ask me how I feel about Congress and our Supreme Court and see how my answers change from thumbs up to rotten tomatoes!!! And W and co. deserve to be tried for treason for pulling some of the stunts they did, but that'll never happen.
...I prefer a man who will burn the flag and then wrap himself in the Constitution to a man who will burn the Constitution and then wrap himself in the flag.
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Just because I think Arnold rocks...not so much as a politician but as a bodybuilder.radiojake wrote:maybe because they elected this guy governorPhatscotty wrote: If tax cuts add to a deficit, then why does California have the biggest deficit problems, while having one of the highest tax rates in the country?
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Skittles! wrote:Lol. Lololololol.jay_a2j wrote:That's not a stimulus package, it's a spending package.
FUCKING LOL.
I have a feeling this guy ROFL when Barney come on his telly.
You obviously don't understand US politics so just try to concentrate on the goings on down under.
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Your idea that stimulus and spending are somehow different tells me you need to read more Keynes.jay_a2j wrote:Skittles! wrote:Lol. Lololololol.jay_a2j wrote:That's not a stimulus package, it's a spending package.
FUCKING LOL.
I have a feeling this guy ROFL when Barney come on his telly.![]()
You obviously don't understand US politics so just try to concentrate on the goings on down under.
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spurgistan wrote:Your idea that stimulus and spending are somehow different tells me you need to read more Keynes.jay_a2j wrote:Skittles! wrote:Lol. Lololololol.jay_a2j wrote:That's not a stimulus package, it's a spending package.
FUCKING LOL.
I have a feeling this guy ROFL when Barney come on his telly.![]()
You obviously don't understand US politics so just try to concentrate on the goings on down under.
A stimulus would be IMMEDIATE ACTION, not waiting a year or two to spend it. It would be akin to telling a judge, "I'll pay the $100,000 bail in a year or two but in the mean time let me out of jail." The 500 Billion unspent "bailout money" will be given out just in time for the midterm elections. (so Obama can help get his Democrat counterparts elected)
THE DEBATE IS OVER...
JESUS SAVES!!!PLAYER57832 wrote:Too many of those who claim they don't believe global warming are really "end-timer" Christians.
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So you really don't understand, good to know.jay_a2j wrote:spurgistan wrote:Your idea that stimulus and spending are somehow different tells me you need to read more Keynes.jay_a2j wrote:Skittles! wrote:Lol. Lololololol.jay_a2j wrote:That's not a stimulus package, it's a spending package.
FUCKING LOL.
I have a feeling this guy ROFL when Barney come on his telly.![]()
You obviously don't understand US politics so just try to concentrate on the goings on down under.
A stimulus would be IMMEDIATE ACTION, not waiting a year or two to spend it. It would be akin to telling a judge, "I'll pay the $100,000 bail in a year or two but in the mean time let me out of jail." The 500 Billion unspent "bailout money" will be given out just in time for the midterm elections. (so Obama can help get his Democrat counterparts elected)
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Titanic wrote:So you really don't understand, good to know.
THE DEBATE IS OVER...
JESUS SAVES!!!PLAYER57832 wrote:Too many of those who claim they don't believe global warming are really "end-timer" Christians.
