Politcal Correctness (FBI/DOD could have stopped Fort Hood)

[spurgistan]

"Political correctness" as we know it today, is pretty much a liberal thing. The conservative, right-wing equivalent would be McCarthyism, which is a dead horse.

Political correctness isn't just politeness. It's intolerance masquerading as tolerance. Let Dr. Laura Schlessinger or Dr. James Dobson express their opinion that homosexuality is an aberration and it's "Get them off the air! Pressure the stations and the sponsors!" and in Dobson's case, "try to prosecute him for an act of violence committed by some totally unconnected idiots in Texas!" Which was so insane it was scary.

For the political correctness crowd, tolerance is a one-way street. "Tolerate all points of view, as long as they agree with mine." "You can't stereotype or ridicule any group of people, unless I don't like them, like Roman Catholics, Fundamentalist Christians, Orthodox Jews..."

Remember the Dixie Chicks? They were fun. Anyways, the point of humor ought to be to make fun of the people with the power. Also, I'm pretty sure we tolerate most different POV's that don't impugn some broad group, or have to do with violence. Tolerate and like are two very different things.

Unless you're a member of that particular group that's not in power. Then you have every right to make fun of that particular group (see, e.g. Chris Rock).

obv

[Woodruff]

"Political correctness" as we know it today, is pretty much a liberal thing. The conservative, right-wing equivalent would be McCarthyism, which is a dead horse.

This may well be the stupidest comparison I have ever seen on ConquerClub (which is a quite impressive feat in and of itself).

Political correctness isn't just politeness. It's intolerance masquerading as tolerance.

Say WHAT? Then please explain what is it about calling someone a homosexual instead of a faggot is intolerant? Yeah, I didn't think you could either.

Let Dr. Laura Schlessinger or Dr. James Dobson express their opinion that homosexuality is an aberration and it's "Get them off the air! Pressure the stations and the sponsors!" and in Dobson's case, "try to prosecute him for an act of violence committed by some totally unconnected idiots in Texas!" Which was so insane it was scary.

Huh? What does ANY of that have to do with political correctness?

For the political correctness crowd, tolerance is a one-way street. "Tolerate all points of view, as long as they agree with mine." "You can't stereotype or ridicule any group of people, unless I don't like them, like Roman Catholics, Fundamentalist Christians, Orthodox Jews..."

This is simply and utterly not even remotely true. You clearly don't have the foggiest understanding of what political correctness is. Crawl out of the dark ages, please.

[daddy1gringo]

"Political correctness" as we know it today, is pretty much a liberal thing. The conservative, right-wing equivalent would be McCarthyism, which is a dead horse.

This may well be the stupidest comparison I have ever seen on ConquerClub (which is a quite impressive feat in and of itself).

Of course you are entitled to your opinion, but no, the comparison is extremely valid. Both movements are/were based on the idea that there is a particular philosophy/opinion that is harmful to our society and should not be allowed. As a result, one must be careful what one says, because saying the wrong thing will get one publicly labeled as an adherent to the unacceptable philosophy. The extreme adherents to PC or McCarthyism would even try to ruin the careers of the accused, because "we don't want 'that kind of people' in a position to influence people."

Political correctness isn't just politeness. It's intolerance masquerading as tolerance.

Say WHAT? Then please explain what is it about calling someone a homosexual instead of a faggot is intolerant? Yeah, I didn't think you could either.

Must be easy to win arguments when you decide what your opponent says, huh? I proceeded to explain what is intolerant about PC. The hidden, and fallacious, assumption in your statement is that "calling someone a homosexual instead of a faggot" is all there is to it.

Let Dr. Laura Schlessinger or Dr. James Dobson express their opinion that homosexuality is an aberration and it's "Get them off the air! Pressure the stations and the sponsors!" and in Dobson's case, "try to prosecute him for an act of violence committed by some totally unconnected idiots in Texas!" Which was so insane it was scary.

Huh? What does ANY of that have to do with political correctness?

For the political correctness crowd, tolerance is a one-way street. "Tolerate all points of view, as long as they agree with mine." "You can't stereotype or ridicule any group of people, unless I don't like them, like Roman Catholics, Fundamentalist Christians, Orthodox Jews..."

This is simply and utterly not even remotely true. You clearly don't have the foggiest understanding of what political correctness is. Crawl out of the dark ages, please.

If you have a valid point, you don't need to resort to invective. What a particular movement is all about is not necessarily defined by its PR statements (by that standard, white supremacy is about bringing freedom and improving life on earth) It has to be judged by what is actually done.

[Woodruff]

"Political correctness" as we know it today, is pretty much a liberal thing. The conservative, right-wing equivalent would be McCarthyism, which is a dead horse.

This may well be the stupidest comparison I have ever seen on ConquerClub (which is a quite impressive feat in and of itself).

Of course you are entitled to your opinion, but no, the comparison is extremely valid. Both movements are/were based on the idea that there is a particular philosophy/opinion that is harmful to our society and should not be allowed. As a result, one must be careful what one says, because saying the wrong thing will get one publicly labeled as an adherent to the unacceptable philosophy. The extreme adherents to PC or McCarthyism would even try to ruin the careers of the accused, because "we don't want 'that kind of people' in a position to influence people."

So then in your world...apples are equivalent to bananas, because both are fruit.

Political correctness isn't just politeness. It's intolerance masquerading as tolerance.

Say WHAT? Then please explain what is it about calling someone a homosexual instead of a faggot is intolerant? Yeah, I didn't think you could either.

Must be easy to win arguments when you decide what your opponent says, huh? I proceeded to explain what is intolerant about PC. The hidden, and fallacious, assumption in your statement is that "calling someone a homosexual instead of a faggot" is all there is to it.

That IS it. That IS political correctness. I'm not implying anything...I'm stating it quite clearly.

Let Dr. Laura Schlessinger or Dr. James Dobson express their opinion that homosexuality is an aberration and it's "Get them off the air! Pressure the stations and the sponsors!" and in Dobson's case, "try to prosecute him for an act of violence committed by some totally unconnected idiots in Texas!" Which was so insane it was scary.

Huh? What does ANY of that have to do with political correctness?

No answer?

For the political correctness crowd, tolerance is a one-way street. "Tolerate all points of view, as long as they agree with mine." "You can't stereotype or ridicule any group of people, unless I don't like them, like Roman Catholics, Fundamentalist Christians, Orthodox Jews..."

This is simply and utterly not even remotely true. You clearly don't have the foggiest understanding of what political correctness is. Crawl out of the dark ages, please.

If you have a valid point, you don't need to resort to invective.

Is it really invective if it's the truth?

What a particular movement is all about is not necessarily defined by its PR statements (by that standard, white supremacy is about bringing freedom and improving life on earth) It has to be judged by what is actually done.

PR statements? See, this is just another proof that you don't have the basic understanding of the concept. Read a book.

[GabonX]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAAHMDpk7Ik

[Snorri1234]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAAHMDpk7Ik

Wow...that's irrelevant.

[Phatscotty]

divided we fall. How can we all live in 2 different worlds? we can't. Can we inject common sense any time soon

[MeDeFe]

divided we fall. How can we all live in 2 different worlds? we can't. Can we inject common sense any time soon

No, there's mercury in it.

[Woodruff]

divided we fall. How can we all live in 2 different worlds? we can't. Can we inject common sense any time soon

I hear that causes autism.

[Phatscotty]

CNN, which for the most part refuses to call Fort Hood Massacre terrorism, follows up every single "Hassan" story with 15 minutes of follow up from 4 US soldiers who killed innocent iraqis 3 years ago

The FBI held a proper investigation and deemed at as not terrorism. They're a more reasonable bunch than you, Phat.

Political correctness is not preventing CNN from labeling the Fort Hood killing spree as terrorism; facts are.

I completely disagree. Show me your source on the officialy (ended) FBI investigation. I call Bullshit!

Phat, I don't need to waste my time with your nonsense. Go give the FBI a call or google it yourself. You either need to drag yourself from your own ignorance or we can all just make fun of you since you're always so hell-bent on starting shit, which you most likely don't even believe yourself. And if you do, then you're truly an idiot.

im saying your story about the official investigation is bullshit, it's ongoing, and they arent telling us everything either

[BigBallinStalin]

CNN, which for the most part refuses to call Fort Hood Massacre terrorism, follows up every single "Hassan" story with 15 minutes of follow up from 4 US soldiers who killed innocent iraqis 3 years ago

The FBI held a proper investigation and deemed at as not terrorism. They're a more reasonable bunch than you, Phat.

Political correctness is not preventing CNN from labeling the Fort Hood killing spree as terrorism; facts are.

I completely disagree. Show me your source on the officialy (ended) FBI investigation. I call Bullshit!

Phat, I don't need to waste my time with your nonsense. Go give the FBI a call or google it yourself. You either need to drag yourself from your own ignorance or we can all just make fun of you since you're always so hell-bent on starting shit, which you most likely don't even believe yourself. And if you do, then you're truly an idiot.

im saying your story about the official investigation is bullshit, it's ongoing, and they arent telling us everything either

So, getting back to your previous nonsense, why should the media label this Hassan story as terrorism?

[Phatscotty]

So, getting back to your previous nonsense, why should the media label this Hassan story as terrorism?

Because it was an act of terror

[Baron Von PWN]

So, getting back to your previous nonsense, why should the media label this Hassan story as terrorism?

Because it was an act of terror

What makes it Terrorism and not just a workplace shooting?

[thegreekdog]

So, getting back to your previous nonsense, why should the media label this Hassan story as terrorism?

Because it was an act of terror

What makes it Terrorism and not just a workplace shooting?

For the win?

[GabonX]

So, getting back to your previous nonsense, why should the media label this Hassan story as terrorism?

Because it was an act of terror

What makes it Terrorism and not just a workplace shooting?

The motivation behind the shooting makes it terrorism..

[Baron Von PWN]

So, getting back to your previous nonsense, why should the media label this Hassan story as terrorism?

Because it was an act of terror

What makes it Terrorism and not just a workplace shooting?

The motivation behind the shooting makes it terrorism..

Very good, and what was the motivation? sorry I don't watch american news, it makes my everything bleed.

[Phatscotty]

ALOHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AKBAR

???

[BigBallinStalin]

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As Americans, Gabon and Phat are just embarrassing.

[Woodruff]

So, getting back to your previous nonsense, why should the media label this Hassan story as terrorism?

Because it was an act of terror

What makes it Terrorism and not just a workplace shooting?

The motivation behind the shooting makes it terrorism..

His motivation not being "I'm just a crazy f*ck"? Because that's what it appeared his motivation was to me. Do you know of an alternate motivation?

[GabonX]

The man identifies his nationality as Palestinian, though he's never lived in Palestine. He has ties with radical Islamic preachers. He tried to contact al Qaeda, though it appears his attempts were unsuccessful. He is quoted as saying "I'm a Muslim first and a soldier second." Prior to the incident he held online conversations over whether or not it was morally permissible to kill innocents during a jihad.

He shouted out "God is great!" in Arabic while killing American soldiers.

Are you guys really this far removed from reality?

[pimpdave]

The idea that Palestine is a place that may exist adds an interesting dimension, Scully.

[Phatscotty]

I am really astounded at you Barons bending over backwards for a terrorist that planned and followed through with a massacre. A strong society says "Off with your head, we don't tolerate massacres and we're making an example out of you" A pussy society says "Oh, what about his feelings? oh, but what kind of massacre was it?" makes me sick, and if it is you calling me an embarrassment, I will take that as a compliment

[Woodruff]

The man identifies his nationality as Palestinian, though he's never lived in Palestine. He has ties with radical Islamic preachers. He tried to contact al Qaeda, though it appears his attempts were unsuccessful. He is quoted as saying "I'm a Muslim first and a soldier second." Prior to the incident he held online conversations over whether or not it was morally permissible to kill innocents during a jihad.
He shouted out "God is great!" in Arabic while killing American soldiers.
Are you guys really this far removed from reality?

That he shouted "God is Great" in Arabic means nothing to me in a terroristic sense...he's still a single individual carrying out an action without being tied to a larger organization. For instance, Timothy McVeigh was tied to a larger organization...making it at least on the edge of potentially being terrorism, whereas I simply see all of this as "I'm just a crazy f*ck".

I am really astounded at you Barons bending over backwards for a terrorist that planned and followed through with a massacre. A strong society says "Off with your head, we don't tolerate massacres and we're making an example out of you" A pussy society says "Oh, what about his feelings? oh, but what kind of massacre was it?" makes me sick, and if it is you calling me an embarrassment, I will take that as a compliment

I'm astounded that you believe any of us has any sort of sympathetic feelings for the crazy man. I certainly don't.

[BigBallinStalin]

I am really astounded at you Barons bending over backwards for a terrorist that planned and followed through with a massacre. A strong society says "Off with your head, we don't tolerate massacres and we're making an example out of you" A pussy society says "Oh, what about his feelings? oh, but what kind of massacre was it?" makes me sick, and if it is you calling me an embarrassment, I will take that as a compliment

Here's your medal, now walk the street, head held HIGH! and be proud of yourself and your version of reality! Don't let the reasonable ones sway you! Don't fall to such trappings, just keep going onward! And never look back! Never question your self!

Ah, there he goes.. into the sunset, our hero: Phatscotty--preserving democracy and freedom for us all--except for whoever he deems as unfitting for such values and principles.

[Phatscotty]

I am really astounded at you Barons bending over backwards for a terrorist that planned and followed through with a massacre. A strong society says "Off with your head, we don't tolerate massacres and we're making an example out of you" A pussy society says "Oh, what about his feelings? oh, but what kind of massacre was it?" makes me sick, and if it is you calling me an embarrassment, I will take that as a compliment

Here's your medal, now walk the street, head held HIGH! and be proud of yourself and your version of reality! Don't let the reasonable ones sway you! Don't fall to such trappings, just keep going onward! And never look back! Never question your self!

Ah, there he goes.. into the sunset, our hero: Phatscotty--preserving democracy and freedom for us all--except for whoever he deems as unfitting for such values and principles.

reasonable ones? you got to be kidding. you havent even stated anything, just a bunch of nu uhs and namecallling