SoC 1v1 Ladder Challenge (CLOSED)

[MGSteve]

And mine is Game 13495481. Lookin forward to gaming with tam again.

[General Roy]

Challenge accepted.
My home game is Game 13495576

I challenge General Roy.
Game 13493734
Game 13493735

[wrisky 50]

I would like to relay a win in game 13483265 over crasp

[celliottii]

I would like to relay a win in game 13483265 over crasp

Wrisky,

It's easiest for the winner of the match to report when all the games are done. That way there is no confusion. Great job and keep it up!

[General Roy]

dhall won our games 2-1.

I am still playing against t4mcr53s2, but I have 2 wins against him. The last game, 13480396, will be his victory.

[Leehar]

Just received the following PM from Genoke...

i'm Genoke, sitting for Anonymus.

he hasn't been online for more then 1 month now, so i decline all the invitations i get.
i'm afraid something happened in real life.

As the Ladder Admin, I want to make sure I cover my bases here....I've been counting this as forfeits for other players, right? so, no one should freak out when I post this as a forfeit from Anonymus?

Correct. You should move him to vacation status or drop him completely now that you have some information.

Thanks, dhallmeyer...I've moved him to Hiatus...

I'm not sure. I noticed you had posted your win against kragomac before some of the games were finished, but was still hoping to challenge you, but now you've moved up to anonymous's spot without actually waiting the 7 days people usually need to before getting a forfeit win?


Anyway, all games won vs kiwi

I challenge Kiwi_NZ

home Game 13473821
away Game 13473823

I'll challenge kragomac next
Game 13501311
Game 13501312

[iAmCaffeine]

I've won 2-1.

[Kragomac]

Leehar, I got your game invites. I assumed it was a Ladder Challenge. A PM to you new victim will avoid confusion. My game is: 13503050. Let's have fun. Why do people manage to find maps I have never played. Hmmm.

[celliottii]

dhall won our games 2-1.

I am still playing against t4mcr53s2, but I have 2 wins against him. The last game, 13480396, will be his victory.

Got both match results recorded...Since you have already won two of the games, this match is complete...

[celliottii]

I'm not sure. I noticed you had posted your win against kragomac before some of the games were finished, but was still hoping to challenge you, but now you've moved up to anonymous's spot without actually waiting the 7 days people usually need to before getting a forfeit win?

Ok...A lot here, so let me cover them one at a time please...I have deleted some of the quotes from Leehar's original post.

As one of the co-founders of the SoC 1v1 Ladder and the official record-keeper for all matches, I understand that I can and will be watched under a microscope at times. That's why I do my best to document everything so that my integrity would not come under fire.

Krag conceded our match on Oct. 22nd:

I concede victory to celliottii. He has made a clean sweep and thoroughly trounced me. Two of the games are still going, but there is little doubt in the outcome. Well done my friend.

Krag

When the concession was made, I had already won the random map (Game 13464294), the territory count was 193 to 4 in his home game (Game 13466542), and my home game was 74 to 15 in my favor. All games were completed no later than 19:26 on October 22.

As far as the forfeit over Anonymus...I posted, PM'd, and sent invites to him that were originally declined. I posted, PM'd, and sent out a second set of invites that were also declined. I then received and posted the PM from Genoke stating Anonymus had not been online in over a month.

Rule #17 states, "If a challenge is declined or not answered/accepted within seven (7) days, it will be treated as though the challenger won the match and the challenged player will be charged with a “FORFEIT”."

Anonymus never informed Macbone or myself about this leave of absence. I then posted in the Forum and was answered by dhallmeyer (a respected SoC teacher) the following:

As the Ladder Admin, I want to make sure I cover my bases here....I've been counting this as forfeits for other players, right? so, no one should freak out when I post this as a forfeit from Anonymus?

Correct. You should move him to vacation status or drop him completely now that you have some information.

Therefore, I recorded the forfeit, adjusted the Ladder, and challenged 9trumpet9.

Again, all this took place on October 22, with my last post being at 7:40 pm.

The Ladder, regarding challenges and match results, runs chronologically. Meaning, I record all Ladder actions in the order they are posted.

Leehar posted his match results on October 24...with five other posts over the last two days from various players being posted.

In conclusion:

1. Even without Krag's concession of our match, the match was officially finished that same day.
2. Genoke informed me within 24 hours that Anonymus is no longer active...after I sent two PMs and two sets of game invites.
3. Leehar posted his match results against Kiwi_NZ almost 48 hours after the match against Krag had completed.

I'll have Macbone review this post, but I do not believe I did anything unethical here. If Macbone feels differently, then I will accept any "penalty" he feels warranted.

Anyway, all games won vs kiwi

I challenge Kiwi_NZ

home Game 13473821
away Game 13473823

I'll challenge kragomac next
Game 13501311
Game 13501312

Match result and challenge recorded on the Ladder...

[celliottii]

I've won 2-1.

Got the match recorded for you...

Leehar, I got your game invites. I assumed it was a Ladder Challenge. A PM to you new victim will avoid confusion. My game is: 13503050. Let's have fun. Why do people manage to find maps I have never played. Hmmm.

Krag, there's over 200 maps here at CC...You haven't played them all yet??? Hurry up!

[Leehar]

Leehar, I got your game invites. I assumed it was a Ladder Challenge. A PM to you new victim will avoid confusion. My game is: 13503050. Let's have fun. Why do people manage to find maps I have never played. Hmmm.

Lol, I don't know the map all that well either, but thought some practice on beta wouldn't hurt.

And it's not a big deal elliott, you got out of my crosshairs, but I'm sure krag will still be a willing sacrifice for my medal streak.
Coincidentally my match with kiwi was decided by the 22nd as well, but I didn't want to get into a debate then with an exam the next day, so I'm fine with not getting involved now either.
At the end of the day, it is just a game, and hopefully one I can continue winning, so no fuss here and I apologise for getting your hackles raised

[torres44cm]

Hey celliottii, was thinking about challenging someone, but my name shows up twice on the Ladder, can you pls correct this. thx

Torres

[celliottii]

Hey celliottii, was thinking about challenging someone, but my name shows up twice on the Ladder, can you pls correct this. thx

Torres

Sorry about that...You're #39..

[celliottii]

Leehar, I got your game invites. I assumed it was a Ladder Challenge. A PM to you new victim will avoid confusion. My game is: 13503050. Let's have fun. Why do people manage to find maps I have never played. Hmmm.

Lol, I don't know the map all that well either, but thought some practice on beta wouldn't hurt.

And it's not a big deal elliott, you got out of my crosshairs, but I'm sure krag will still be a willing sacrifice for my medal streak.
Coincidentally my match with kiwi was decided by the 22nd as well, but I didn't want to get into a debate then with an exam the next day, so I'm fine with not getting involved now either.
At the end of the day, it is just a game, and hopefully one I can continue winning, so no fuss here and I apologise for getting your hackles raised

No hackles raised here...With playing and being an Admin, I have to make sure I keep my nose clean...and I appreciate everyone in helping me out.

Feel free to call me out at anytime...I'm a big boy and I take a little of criticism.

Cheers!

[wrisky 50]

crasp vs Wrisky 50 Wrisky 50 won Game 13483256 & 13483265. Lost Game 13494017
Thanks for setting this toury up

[crasp]

Thats one way to get up the ladder. the other is to actually win the games.
Game 13483265
Game 13483256
Game 13494017
Think you will find that is 2:1 to me.

[celliottii]

Thats one way to get up the ladder. the other is to actually win the games.
Game 13483265
Game 13483256
Game 13494017
Think you will find that is 2:1 to me.

Got the match recorded for you...congrats on your first Ladder win.

[macbone]

Celliottii, it looks like everything's aboveboard here.

I'd suggest that you wait to record the results of the match after all games are complete, though.

Thanks for your continued efforts, man!

[wrisky 50]

Sorry I thought that I won the 1st game. My bad .

[General Roy]

My games against t4mcr53s2 are now finished:

Game 13463256 win for me
Game 13463258 win for me
Game 13480396 win for t4mcr53s2

I see you have already recorded this match. Thanks.

[crasp]

I challenge Kiwi3
Game 13513062
Game 13513072
pm sent.

[General Roy]

I've sent off a challenge to ElricTheGreat, with the following games:

Home game: Game 13513111
Random game: Game 13513120

[celliottii]

My games against t4mcr53s2 are now finished:

Game 13463256 win for me
Game 13463258 win for me
Game 13480396 win for t4mcr53s2

I see you have already recorded this match. Thanks.

I went off the post that said you had the two wins already against T4...

I challenge Kiwi3
Game 13513062
Game 13513072
pm sent.

Got your challenge recorded...

I've sent off a challenge to ElricTheGreat, with the following games:

Home game: Game 13513111
Random game: Game 13513120

Got it for you...

[ElricTheGreat]

I've sent off a challenge to ElricTheGreat, with the following games:

Home game: Game 13513111
Random game: Game 13513120

here we go Roy ... Game 13513768