Civilitas High - Lesson 2: Geography

[Loose Canon]

vote dds

[Loose Canon]

Standing up against what i believe is wrong.

There cant be flavoured vanillas without mafia having such power to blend in. It is not a vanilla game.
Dds whole power of arguments and persuasion is predicated that it is. Dds is either mafia or will lead town to defeat. A mafia ragian argued & persuaded town to defeat last game.

[Charle]

I am not sure what is the vote count at the moment, but I am with DDS with this one. DDS, DJF and Max were the original claimed wall flowers, the rest just jumped on that wave IMHO.

Vote Devante

[Ragian]

Accusation count

Loose - 2 (hjelp, Devante)
Charle - 4 (Homer, HottB, KingM, DJF)
Devante - 2 (DDS, Charle)
DDS - 1 (Loose)

With 10 in class, it takes 6 accusations to send someone to the principal's office



CLASS ENDS WEDNESDAY JULY 15 AT 10PM GMT+1

[Loose Canon]

This is NOT a Vanilla Game.
I think I will start all my D2 posts with this from now on - at least till DDS faces up to this.

I'm going to circle back over some things though;

Bunny - you are saying you would like to believe my integrity but ....
If you check back over my previous games you will see I am a pretty honourable guy - there was one game I did charity bets with myself.
I wasn't pulling at heart strings - just been joking around in an early me in real life totally incompetent with girls kinda way.
I was genuinely p***ed off with whoever decided to target Annie - I really don't think that would have happened had I been in the cheats chat.
For what its worth I think I would have been almost as P***ed had you been hit break1.
Take it or leave it - that's me.

I've said and believe that short of mod error so many flavoured vanillas would not be in the game.
I don't know what the compensating Mafia power is and I've speculated previously that they had the most simple one being a wallflower fake claim.
I'm now going to speculate more wildly which probably won't help my case but hey ho.
What if Mafia each had an opening shot before game started proper of looking at another players role?
They could find a town power role, another mafia or wallflower vanilla.
This would fit with Ragian sort of starting the game insisting everyone told a joke, then delaying because jokes weren't jokey enough.
- waiting for the pm communications between mafia and himself to all have flowed and been confirmed.

I had a game set up not quite vanilla role for a reason.
It has led me to focus on game set up more than saying who sounds most suspicious

This is NOT a vanilla game
Anyone who insists it is then won't even discuss is most suspicious - my vote on DDS is totally justified.

[DirtyDishSoap]

Oof, welp, so much for info.

Unvote vote Charle

[Loose Canon]

How very dare you sir.
I challenge thee to a duel.

[Loose Canon]

This is NOT a vanilla game
least not in the way dds is making out.

Best challenge dds again in the correct format too for a duel.
I cast "Stained Undies back and add Soiled Petitcoat"

[HottBunnie]

A claim made that isn’t a PR and is vanilla having added an extra intel like the claim made by LC, is a ”safe” false claim since there is no way to counterclaim the intel given.

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Cold Probability 1;
Ragian has by intention or error allowed 3 or 4 vanillas to convert themselves into confirmed town masons.
Much more likely is they are not confirmed and Mafia was provided with a safe fake flower claim.
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Its perhaps not surprising Loose was the first to put his hand up and get the right answer as he is a prize winning maths student who won his scholarship here.

His prize on entering this high school was the knowledge the classes started with 9 good guys and 3 baddies.

@LC
Why did you debate the numbers when you know from the start?

Did we ever get an answer on this, also we already know some people have powers and some dont if from nothing else Max was a wall flower and Annie had a power. I dont think anyone disputed this. Im honestly a little lost on this vanilla game claim loose sorry.

[Loose Canon]

This is NOT a vanilla game.

Its that breadcrumbing as a wallflower means zilch.

Re why I opened debate on numbers - or offered this as a line of discussion - wanted to see what would happen if I speculated 2 mafia 1 third party - and it could have been from what I knew at outset that there were 3 bad guys. There was the 80% organic quote from Ragian which out of 12 players comes to 9.6.
Now almost certainly all 3 bad guys are all mafia.
There's scope for organic 80% being either a throwaway line from Ragian, inaccurate rounding down to 9 town (as opposed to rounding up), or indeed ratio in some way of pupils to non pupils (maybe a student teacher)
I actually don't know what if anything 80% organic means - if anything - but opening discussion on it back then given I'm a maths scholarship student - seemed a valid line of opening up some kind of discussion.
Right now its the not vanilla game and calling out DDS,s entire game which is based on this falsehood is where I'm at.
But thats the answer as to why I debated or opened up possible debate at the start.

[HottBunnie]

Are you saying Ragian said to you through a pm that the group is 80% good kids or townies and if not, can you please quote the quote you were talking about. Originally you told us something about your power being the ability to know how many people were town or scum. Further, are you saying that there is a possibility of only two scum then because you were told it’s 80% town? In which case I feel like this information is becoming suspect because there’s no way there would be only two mafia.


And hjelp I’m sorry if I missed it before I know you still have a vote on LC right now is there a reason you think Charle is town? I think LC is probably scum at this point. It seems like there’s a bunch of misinformation being given. And I’m happy to support your vote. But it seems like if we’re right about the scum that LC keeps revealing little bits of them meanwhile Charle hardly says a thing

[Loose Canon]

This is NOT a vanilla game

Bunny see very first welcome post from ragian - 80% organic canteen.

Come on you have not been paying attention or are pushing an agenda.

Dds is the one who has been playing a mafia agenda.
Now hes not talking.

[Loose Canon]

And bunny are you role fishing hjelp?

[hjelp]

I received a note: There was a conversation during break in the staff room. There are rumours that apparently one of the good kids were mixing with the bad kids and discussing the use of AI in exam papers.

Is it allowed to quote a note literarily? Without being sent to the principal’s office?

If it’s allowed then it’s not a false claim. But if it’s not allowed and still in the game then it’s a false claim.

It would be nice to hear what the principal has to say about this.

??

[HottBunnie]

Lc im not role fishing but Charle is at 5 now i think so one more vote and hes out rn the silence speaks

And interesting consideration hjelp

[hjelp]

@ Bunny
I’m still having an eye on Charle and hopefully my last post will give a more clear viewpoint regarding Charle.

Waiting for Charle or the principal to answer.

[hjelp]

I have now read the rules #3 and it’s not allowed to quote literally. Since the use of ”:” it makes me think that it’s not rewritten from a note. I think it’s a made up note and by mistake used ”:” . Now, it has been a while since Charle wrote this and I think that the principal should have taken actions if quoted. I don’t bother to wait for an answer.
Unvote Loose Canon
Vote Charle

[Loose Canon]

I received a note: There was a conversation during break in the staff room. There are rumours that apparently one of the good kids were mixing with the bad kids and discussing the use of AI in exam papers.

Hjelp - please clarify how the above is not allowed or what you mean.

[Loose Canon]

I don't see the quotation marks in the original post as it appears to me, but now do when quoting Charle.

[Djfireside]

Thats it actually. Charle got his note, HJelp was the hammer


Loose - 2 (hjelp, Devante)
Charle - 6 (Homer, HottB, KingM, DJF, DDS, HJelp)
Devante - 2 (DDS, Charle)
DDS - 1 (Loose)

With 10 in class, it takes 6 accusations to send someone to the principal's office

[Djfireside]

Thats it actually. Charle got his note, HJelp was the hammer. (Reposted because didnt take out the unvotes)


Loose - 1 (Devante)
Charle - 6 (Homer, HottB, KingM, DJF, DDS, HJelp)
Devante - 1 ( Charle)
DDS - 1 (Loose)

With 10 in class, it takes 6 accusations to send someone to the principal's office

[DirtyDishSoap]

Yeah, it was a hammer but a deadline imposed, and no one else wanted to branch out a bit. Just have to wait and see what the flip is.

[homer_jay]

i have no problem with hjelp dropping the hammer. but his line of reasoning makes no sense to me. did you vote charle because you think he broke some rule by "quoting" a note he claims to have received related to his role in the game?

[hjelp]

i have no problem with hjelp dropping the hammer. but his line of reasoning makes no sense to me. did you vote charle because you think he broke some rule by "quoting" a note he claims to have received related to his role in the game?

I think Charle didn’t quote. But I think that using the colon punctuation mark in that way was to present the note literally/verbatim. Therefore, it would have been a quote if a note, which isn’t allowed. I think that there is no note, and a fake since the principal didn’t react. It was a mistake using the colon punctuation mark. Besides the suspicious claim Charle did.

[Loose Canon]

Ok Hjelp Thanks I think that is incorrect at least the way I read charle's post.