Conquer Club, a free online multiplayer variation of a popular world domination board game.
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And?......jonty125 wrote:Hmm, in the scene saf is described as pure light, but his role is translucent light.
Well they are different things. Pure light, would be 'white light'. But translucent light, I'm not even sure if that is possible. Because if an OBJECT is (optically translucent, if you want to be techincal) translucent it partially lets through light. And light is a wave (we think, lets think of it like a wave, it makes things so much simpler). Now light cannot be described as translucent as we judge if something is translucent by whether light passes through it. It's like entering a pie, into a competition. There is an apple pie, steak pie and a pie pie. What is a pie pie? Is it possible? It definitely isn't an apple pie, which is the crux of my argument.Iron Butterfly wrote:And?......jonty125 wrote:Hmm, in the scene saf is described as pure light, but his role is translucent light.
True that.strike wolf wrote:This argument is coming in a game where we've had a confirmed character who was A Darker Shade of Black. You must also consider that it's a mod confirmed role so why are we arguing it?
I will have to reread before I can make up a decision on who to vote for. I haven't really gotten any good reads so far in this game to be frank.
this is either softclaiming a power role cause he has one, or softclaiming one because hes a VT and is trying to get himself NK, like a good VTedocsil wrote:It's not. But I've got a role this time around that allows me to be aggressive in inflicting my opinions.strike wolf wrote:You act like this recent trend is unusual but an inactive wagon happens on 90% of day ones since Ive gotten here. They usually last until a more meaningful case appears or someone decides to vote one of the bandwagoners. Sometimes they do end up as the case du Jour and honestly the response DJ gave wasnt suffucient. Now Imnot that big on the case either but I have yet to see reason deter it or a case to make on someone else.
edocsil wrote:I do not support a doom lynch. The idea wasn't that bad, and it was a unique and discussion provoking suggestion. It just isn't realistic to pursue.
i can see this going either way, hes either mafia trying to cover up defending doom, or hes town and he thought doom was too, im more inclined to believe that hes town as the case on doom was weak, and i too thought he was town,edocsil wrote:Yeah, anyone who was not keen on hanging Doom is on the chopping block today IMO. Sadly I am one of the folks he spent a lot of time defending him D2
StubbsKVM wrote:unvote, vote DJ
Looks like someone's lurking.
StubbsKVM wrote:I'm sticking with my DJ vote. Only pops in when under pressure.
StubbsKVM wrote:Only after the votes were piling up, he came in and posted.DoomYoshi wrote:
Stubbz, since DJ has been under pressure for 100% of the game, how can you say that as a reason?
If everybody thinks: day 1 is just random, let's not post, how are you ever going to find mafia?
then as we all know during night 1 dj ends up dead, now it could be that stubbs is scum and used the nk to take out dj, except the wording of the night scene suggest that the SK killed dj, so i'm more inclined to believe that the SK was trying to set stubbs up.StubbsKVM wrote:So you don't think it's weird that as soon as people start voting him, he immediately reacts?
then the neb wagonjonty125 wrote:He's the one that fits the bill unvote, vote DJfiresidesafariguy5 wrote:unvote vote dj for submarining. No posts since confirming.
then dooms wagonjonty125 wrote:unvote, vote Nebp his posts have been all over the shop.
and finally the aage wagonjonty125 wrote:vote DoomYoshi for his strawmanning on aage.
jonty was the second to vote on every wagon except nebs in which he was the third to joinjonty125 wrote: and now vote aage
As a thought, what would IB have done if his hexadecimal was required? Bright white.
TheForgivenOne wrote:I'm tending to lean towards the Cult moreso.strike wolf wrote:If I had to guess from the flavor of the scene with the swallowing and the other one (Dj) being killed. I'm thinking we may be looking at a cult+SK set up.
theres not much from TFO, mostly been quiet and has posted much of note, the only thing i found was that he advocated the idea of there being a cult in the game, it could have been a ploy to get town to focus on finding a cult recruiter and to leave the mafia alone, but i find it unlikely, all in all not sure what i think of TFOTheForgivenOne wrote:I have to agree here. Do you have any proof town has no power roles? A person giving up on town isn't helpful to town at all.DoomYoshi wrote:At first this seems like you are softing VT, but you wouldn't do that (meta argument).edocsil wrote:TBH if there is as little town power as it seams and we have a cult and SK we may as well throw in the hat.
So does this mean you are the first recruited? I am willing to find out.
vote edoc
anamainiacks wrote:What good would that do us if it tells us nothing about the alignment of a player when the penalty is dealt? We still won't have a clue whether the player is a townie, mafia, or SK. What's more, in the situation where we mistakenly target a townie - if we lose his vote, the mafia gets a stronger voting majority; if he loses his powers, we have no way to confirm his claim at night. The risk is too high.DoomYoshi wrote:Are you willing to test it?safariguy5 wrote:I don't get why Doom's plan requires the whole bote thing. Nothing says we can't just vote the people the normal way to apply the color pressure. Also, nothing in the original scene says the penalty is automatically death. It could be lost powers or lost votes or something. It's just implied that the consequences will be bad. How exactly are you coming up with death as the punishment Doom?
anamainiacks wrote:This kinda sounds like a passive aggressive way to make sure we lynch Doom... And it raises my eyebrows as to whether that might actually be your agenda. Like Doom pointed out, this means that regardless of what happens to the colour namer, Doom must be lynched.safariguy5 wrote:Well really, I suppose the idea being that Doom has asserted all along that the penalty for breaking the rule is death. That's basically why he pushed the bote plan. What I'm saying is that it was never made explicit that the penalty is death. It's all just ambiguously "bad" things will happen. But somehow, Doom is sure that it's death.
So I'm volunteering to break the rule and see if I die. If I don't die, I'm going to vote Doom because his plan and interpretation of the rule all day has been rule break=death. Which means LAL and makes that as good a lynch reason as we've had all day.
The way I see it, if the rulebreaker dies, then Doom is SK because he was way too sure about the effects of the rule. If the rulebreaker doesn't die, then Doom was just extremely foolish in assuming it resulted in death; no implications on alignment, and still could be any of the 3 (town, mafia, SK).
Like edoc and SW both mentioned, Doom's plan wasn't actually bad.
in the first quote it seems that ana is questioning dooms plan, and saying that it won't work/that it is a bad idea, then in the second quote says dooms plan wasn't bad, and in the third says the plan was a good one and that it made sense,anamainiacks wrote:Well, it looks like the Yoshi's lynch is inevitable, with the time left on the clock. I personally still don't think he's scum though - his plan, though gamebreaking, was a good one and did make sense - so I'm abstaining from the vote. But of course, WCS we lynch a VT.
Sure, I'll clarify (: (If everyone doesn't mind, I won't quote the quotes themselves - they're rather long, so I hope people don't mind just scrolling 2 posts up.)gregwolf121 wrote:in the first quote it seems that ana is questioning dooms plan, and saying that it won't work/that it is a bad idea, then in the second quote says dooms plan wasn't bad, and in the third says the plan was a good one and that it made sense,
to me the second and third posts say the opposite of what was said in the first, so ana clarify this if you would
anamainiacks wrote:The way I see it, if the rulebreaker dies, then Doom is SK because he was way too sure about the effects of the rule. If the rulebreaker doesn't die, then Doom was just extremely foolish in assuming it resulted in death; no implications on alignment, and still could be any of the 3 (town, mafia, SK)."
I agree with SW. We have not much to go on, Jonty seems like the best vote to me. Seems overeager to jump the BW's.strike wolf wrote:Havent finished rereading. Out of the cases gregg posted, if I had to vote, i would probably choose Jonty from that list but none of them seem overly compelling.
Looks very forced.Yeah, anyone who was not keen on hanging Doom is on the chopping block today IMO. Sadly I am one of the folks he spent a lot of time defending him D2
Would you volunteer with glee, a lead to follow which points to yourself?StubbsKVM wrote:I don't really have much to go on. And I'm still terribly busy at work.
Edoc is the one that bothers me most tbh. Especially this:
Looks very forced.Yeah, anyone who was not keen on hanging Doom is on the chopping block today IMO. Sadly I am one of the folks he spent a lot of time defending him D2
Tbh I personally think the best course could easily been seen to hang folks who supported Doom. I was really hoping someone of those few would say something particularly dumb so I could make a case vs them that is stronger than the identical argument verse me.StubbsKVM wrote:I don't really have much to go on. And I'm still terribly busy at work.
Edoc is the one that bothers me most tbh. Especially this:
Looks very forced.Yeah, anyone who was not keen on hanging Doom is on the chopping block today IMO. Sadly I am one of the folks he spent a lot of time defending him D2
edoc jonty did vote for doom, he was the second to do so,jonty125 wrote:vote DoomYoshi for his strawmanning on aage.
I went back to look before voting, and assumed that was why IB placed his vote, and I didn't see his name on the appropriate VCs. Could you link the vote for me, and a page number so I could see some context too?gregwolf121 wrote:edoc jonty did vote for doom, he was the second to do so,jonty125 wrote:vote DoomYoshi for his strawmanning on aage.
First unvote jonty and vote Edocsciledocsil wrote:I went back to look before voting, and assumed that was why IB placed his vote, and I didn't see his name on the appropriate VCs. Could you link the vote for me, and a page number so I could see some context too?gregwolf121 wrote:edoc jonty did vote for doom, he was the second to do so,jonty125 wrote:vote DoomYoshi for his strawmanning on aage.
I'm taking another look for the vote too
