Golden Pantheon - Greek - Game Over ~ Scum Win

[edocsil]

Yahweh looked down from above. Just days before the scene playing out beneath him had been dire, but tonight the tides were tipping in his favor. His forces were not yet in the clear, there would be more dead before this strife was done but for tonight the chains of hell were still.

Ares, god of war, had kept still the had of war till now. Now his judgment fell in folly, guided by the hands of fallen foes.

MeDeFe ~ Artemis Tracker Has been killed


It is now Day 4! 6 alive, 4 to lynch.
Also pardon the short scene, winter carnival has started at my school and I will have less time for CC while it continues.

[Rodion]

I can't believe our vig was stupid enough to get Medefe killed just because of the shit Victor wrote.

The stupidity of some mafia players is unbelievable. I have more to say, but I kind of lost the will right now. Perhaps later today.

[Rodion]

Ok, I'd like to open up hearing from Safari again. Who did you watch and did you see anything?

[safariguy5]

Watched Vio, didn't see anybody. I WIFOMed mafia targeting the proven townie, but they didn't go for it.

[TA1LGUNN3R]

Watched Vio, didn't see anybody. I WIFOMed mafia targeting the proven townie, but they didn't go for it.

Did you get a notice that nobody visited or no response?

-Tails

[soundman]

Just wanted to say I'm here and reading but I'm sick (and in a competition this weekend, I don't recommend being sick and competing) and I can't think straight. I think I'm getting to the tail end of it though so should be able to add in a day or two.

[safariguy5]

Watched Vio, didn't see anybody. I WIFOMed mafia targeting the proven townie, but they didn't go for it.

Did you get a notice that nobody visited or no response?

-Tails

Nobody visited.

[edocsil]

Make sure to keep this moving. Remember 2 week deadlines.

[Rodion]

I want to know if anyone has any strong lead on what to do.

I also want to know what Safari suggests we do today.

[strike wolf]

*ghostly whisper* Avenge me. Avenge me.

[soundman]

I don't have a stong lead but I suspect Tail. Since Day 1 he has only posted four times. Seems to me like he's trying to lay low.

hmm... the flavor spec seems to fit for both characters, so it's probable one of them is lying (jonty vs Saf)...

So for jonty, if I assume he is mafia....

I counted Victor twice unvote vote Violet

inactive BW...

unvote I'm happy with Vio has now proved her abilities

Vote Count

safariguy (1) - chapcrap
chapcrap (1) -PCM
jonty (4) - conzo, MeDeFe, Violet, ???
Violet (4) - safariguy, victor, strike wolf, jonty

11 alive, 6 to lynch

It appears that Vio is cleared...However, I thought that I had voted for Vio... No big deal.

Since jonty has 4 votes, perhaps we could hear from him?

Lets have a breakdown on the votes on me

1.

Hmmmm...

unvote vote Sully unvote revote Jonty! for swearing to an unknown god!

Jokevote

2.

unvote
vote jonty for apparently not counting correctly

Jokevote

3 and 4.

Vote Jonty

The next vote count should include two votes for jonty- one from me, and one from ???

Proving her role

So two jokevotes, and Vio proving her role. I believe that says it all.

A legitimate defense post, against someone who was dropping scumtells.

About jonty:

I already explained this before. We were pressuring Vio because of supposed inactiveness at other times in mafia and on the site as a whole. With that as the predecessor, I saw no reason to not pressure jonty into a claim since we were basically just pressuring for no reason anyway.

The reason why we pressure an inactive is because they are no help to town because a) harder to get a lynch and b) don't hear their view and can't get scumtells

I thought you would have known this and are dropping scumtells left and right unvote vote chapcrap

This one's harder. He did vote for a townie, as did I, who later turned out to be the doc. If he were scum he would know this. However, chap was playing poorly. Too wifom for anything concrete.

That would be a gutsy move if you were mafia and I believe it unvote

Backs off the doc... sensible for any player.

I aren't going to vote no lynch because finishing the day early is of no value to town as people may still drop scumtells or voting patterns for D2.

Yeah, I'm certainly would not support another wagon today. We've already pushed our boundaries too far for Day 1 as it is.

-Sully

+1

Says he won't vote no lynch, but endorses Victor's post that he won't support another wagon. Again, nothing damning, considering the doc had just been outed.

I'm not thinking he's scummy right now, based purely on these posts. Then again, this could just be solid play. I'll compare to Saf next (too tired atm).

One thing that has been bothering me is the kill on chap... Were the mafia really so desperate to be rid of him, or did they conclude a watcher not likely? Obviously they achieved the kill, but I personally may have waited a day or two, just to rule out the possibility of watchers. idk, I tend to be overly cautious. This leads me to question either players' motive; they both have solid-ish claims, but one of them had to have been responsible for the kill or known about it. I guess I'll wait for jonty's response.

-Tails

He doesn't say much here except to agree that one of them is scum. He also says he'll compare Saf next but never does.

Night 2: Watched strike wolf, who was visited by none other than safariguy5. I thought I'd hold off releasing this information to see if safari had any more scum to oust today, but I was sadly disappointed.

ok so you first say you didn't visit strike, and now you're saying you did, and that he was visited by Saf... who in turn says he watched you. You're certain that's what actually happened?

-Tails

hm, this will be kind of a quick day. I would be willing to hammer as well, but if anyone has anything else to say?

-Tails

Watched Vio, didn't see anybody. I WIFOMed mafia targeting the proven townie, but they didn't go for it.

Did you get a notice that nobody visited or no response?

-Tails

He just asks a few questions to look like he's contributing but I don't see him adding much to the discussion.

I know this isn't the strongest case but it's the best I have. So Vote Tail

What do you guys think?

[Rodion]

I think I'd rather not see anyone receiving 2 votes for now. If anyone else wishes to vote Tail, hold it for now and just indicate your intention with a FOS.

We have a lot to discuss in what can be a key day for town and I don't want any lynch to be rushed.

[TA1LGUNN3R]

zimmah

I don't have a stong lead but I suspect Tail. Since Day 1 he has only posted four times. Seems to me like he's trying to lay low.

hmm... the flavor spec seems to fit for both characters, so it's probable one of them is lying (jonty vs Saf)...

So for jonty, if I assume he is mafia....

I counted Victor twice unvote vote Violet

inactive BW...

unvote I'm happy with Vio has now proved her abilities

Vote Count

safariguy (1) - chapcrap
chapcrap (1) -PCM
jonty (4) - conzo, MeDeFe, Violet, ???
Violet (4) - safariguy, victor, strike wolf, jonty

11 alive, 6 to lynch

It appears that Vio is cleared...However, I thought that I had voted for Vio... No big deal.

Since jonty has 4 votes, perhaps we could hear from him?

Lets have a breakdown on the votes on me

1.

Hmmmm...

unvote vote Sully unvote revote Jonty! for swearing to an unknown god!

Jokevote

2.

unvote
vote jonty for apparently not counting correctly

Jokevote

3 and 4.

Vote Jonty

The next vote count should include two votes for jonty- one from me, and one from ???

Proving her role

So two jokevotes, and Vio proving her role. I believe that says it all.

A legitimate defense post, against someone who was dropping scumtells.

About jonty:

I already explained this before. We were pressuring Vio because of supposed inactiveness at other times in mafia and on the site as a whole. With that as the predecessor, I saw no reason to not pressure jonty into a claim since we were basically just pressuring for no reason anyway.

The reason why we pressure an inactive is because they are no help to town because a) harder to get a lynch and b) don't hear their view and can't get scumtells

I thought you would have known this and are dropping scumtells left and right unvote vote chapcrap

This one's harder. He did vote for a townie, as did I, who later turned out to be the doc. If he were scum he would know this. However, chap was playing poorly. Too wifom for anything concrete.

That would be a gutsy move if you were mafia and I believe it unvote

Backs off the doc... sensible for any player.

I aren't going to vote no lynch because finishing the day early is of no value to town as people may still drop scumtells or voting patterns for D2.

Yeah, I'm certainly would not support another wagon today. We've already pushed our boundaries too far for Day 1 as it is.

-Sully

+1

Says he won't vote no lynch, but endorses Victor's post that he won't support another wagon. Again, nothing damning, considering the doc had just been outed.

I'm not thinking he's scummy right now, based purely on these posts. Then again, this could just be solid play. I'll compare to Saf next (too tired atm).

One thing that has been bothering me is the kill on chap... Were the mafia really so desperate to be rid of him, or did they conclude a watcher not likely? Obviously they achieved the kill, but I personally may have waited a day or two, just to rule out the possibility of watchers. idk, I tend to be overly cautious. This leads me to question either players' motive; they both have solid-ish claims, but one of them had to have been responsible for the kill or known about it. I guess I'll wait for jonty's response.

-Tails

He doesn't say much here except to agree that one of them is scum. He also says he'll compare Saf next but never does.

Night 2: Watched strike wolf, who was visited by none other than safariguy5. I thought I'd hold off releasing this information to see if safari had any more scum to oust today, but I was sadly disappointed.

ok so you first say you didn't visit strike, and now you're saying you did, and that he was visited by Saf... who in turn says he watched you. You're certain that's what actually happened?

-Tails

hm, this will be kind of a quick day. I would be willing to hammer as well, but if anyone has anything else to say?

-Tails

Watched Vio, didn't see anybody. I WIFOMed mafia targeting the proven townie, but they didn't go for it.

Did you get a notice that nobody visited or no response?

-Tails

He just asks a few questions to look like he's contributing but I don't see him adding much to the discussion.

I know this isn't the strongest case but it's the best I have. So Vote Tail

What do you guys think?

My latest questions were actually very pointed and very specific, without trying too reveal too much. Anything else you got?

-Tails

[soundman]

My latest questions were actually very pointed and very specific, without trying too reveal too much. Anything else you got?

-Tails

Yes they were, but that's all you've done. Asked two questions. You haven't voted or added your thoughts. Seems to me you're trying to stay low and unseen.

[chapcrap]

*Voice from the Grave*

Man, I wish the town still had a doctor in this game.

[VioIet]

Proven Roles
1. Violet- Double- Voter
2. Safari- Tracker

Unclaimed
1. Rodion
3. Tailgunner
7. Soundman replaced Conzocool
9. Pancakemix



Four people unaccounted for- unless my memory is failing me.

At least one have to be scum. I feel that even if we mis-lynch today, and mafia kill someone tonight, we will still be okay.

[Rodion]

I also want to know what Safari suggests we do today.

Prod Safari if needed, please.

[edocsil]

I also want to know what Safari suggests we do today.

Prod Safari if needed, please.

Not going to prod someone who has posted on the last page.

[MeDeFe]

Ares, god of war, had kept still the had of war till now. Now his judgment fell in folly, guided by the hands of fallen foes.

MeDeFe ~ Artemis Tracker Has been killed

Gods damn it you guys! Learn to spot the difference between a deliberate attempt at misdirection and a slip-up.

On the plus side, now I have more time for the NBC game.

[safariguy5]

Proven Roles
1. Violet- Double- Voter
2. Safari- Tracker

Unclaimed
1. Rodion
3. Tailgunner
7. Soundman replaced Conzocool
9. Pancakemix



Four people unaccounted for- unless my memory is failing me.

At least one have to be scum. I feel that even if we mis-lynch today, and mafia kill someone tonight, we will still be okay.

I think Vio is on the right track here when we're talking about how many mafia we think we have left. And for the record, I'm a Watcher not a Tracker Vio.

With 11 players, 1 being third party (me), that leaves 10 other roles. I'm pretty sure this is a NV game, which would mean mafia probably has 3 members. So I'm pretty sure we're not at MYLO, but I'm not positive.

To answer your question Rod, I might consider a massclaim, but I see no major scumtells.

[Rodion]

Remaining gods:

Ares - confirmed
Aphrodite
Demeter
Dionysius
Hephaestus
Hera
Hermes
Poseidon

Out of 4 people (PCM, Soundman, Tail and Rodion), one is supposed to clear himself after claiming Ares and another is supposed to have a possible explanation of why mafia did not have a night kill.
If a third person (non-Ares, non-"I know why mafia did not have a nightkill") can confirm his innocence, this should be game (however, that is not certain).

Before we rush anything, though, I'd like to hear what PCM has to say. I'd also like more activity from pretty much everyone, since this is a key moment in the game. I'm still keeping my most important thought hidden and I'd like to get as much discussion as possible going before I reveal it.

[soundman]

I've put up my case. It's not the best but so far it's all I've been able to come up with.

[soundman]

I may also know why the mafia didn't have a night kill but don't want to say too much atm.

[TA1LGUNN3R]

I may also know why the mafia didn't have a night kill but don't want to say too much atm.

Let's hear it. I'm starting to think that my actions prevented the mafia kill, unlikely as I considered it at first.

-Tails

[VioIet]

How did your actions prevent it tails?

Only thing that makes sense is our doctor protecting someone, but he died N1.

Perhaps we have a town role-blocker out there?