Island of Doom

koontz1973 · Post by **koontz1973** » Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:30 am

DiM wrote:
chapcrap wrote:
DiM wrote: new world has a 2 terit bottle neck too.
I don't have a problem with Doom, but I don't think this is true. Where is said bottle neck?
mapuche 5 + aztec 9
hold all of south america and you can simply protect it from those 2 terits.

You forgot the two ports which makes it 4 territs to hold.

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:39 am

oops

zimmah · Post by **zimmah** » Sun Apr 22, 2012 8:48 pm

classic has several bottlenecks too, it only requires you to hold several continents, so usually by the time you hold that, the game is over anyway. (for example when you hold both Asia and Oceania, or Both Americas, or even Europe and Africa).

bottlenecks don't have to be bad per se, they add a bit of fun to the game, otherwise it'd be too symmetric.

Swimmerdude99 · Post by **Swimmerdude99** » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:48 pm

I don't mind this map at all. In fact I love it as is and hope it remains that way. WELL done sir

Swimmerdude99 · Post by **Swimmerdude99** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 1:47 pm

However... I do have another comment... There really is no incentive whatsoever to take the volcano to win the game, because the military base comes with a 1+ autodeploy... maybe you should have something similar on the valcanoe? or maye make it a 3 nuetral instead of 5...

zimmah · Post by **zimmah** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:08 pm

location plays a factor too.

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:17 pm

zimmah wrote:location plays a factor too.

qft

TheRedSnifit · Post by **TheRedSnifit** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:18 pm

swimmerdude99 wrote:However... I do have another comment... There really is no incentive whatsoever to take the volcano to win the game, because the military base comes with a 1+ autodeploy... maybe you should have something similar on the valcanoe? or maye make it a 3 nuetral instead of 5...

Actually, I think it'd be the opposite. The base is harder to take, considering how you have to go through several killer neutrals to get to it, and has no additional bonuses aside from the auto-deploy. Keep in mind that you can only assault in one direction from it, so the extra troop will likely be defense-exclusive.

TheRedSnifit · Post by **TheRedSnifit** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:21 pm

Also, the military base is geographically one-sided. Players in the north only have one "infected" area to go through, while everyone else has to go through three or four.

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Tue May 01, 2012 10:27 am

TheRedSnifit wrote:
swimmerdude99 wrote:However... I do have another comment... There really is no incentive whatsoever to take the volcano to win the game, because the military base comes with a 1+ autodeploy... maybe you should have something similar on the valcanoe? or maye make it a 3 nuetral instead of 5...
Actually, I think it'd be the opposite. The base is harder to take, considering how you have to go through several killer neutrals to get to it, and has no additional bonuses aside from the auto-deploy. Keep in mind that you can only assault in one direction from it, so the extra troop will likely be defense-exclusive.

In the games I've played, people have been more likely to go after the Military Base than Volcano, so far.

--Andy

Swimmerdude99 · Post by **Swimmerdude99** » Wed May 02, 2012 11:49 pm

TheRedSnifit wrote:
swimmerdude99 wrote:However... I do have another comment... There really is no incentive whatsoever to take the volcano to win the game, because the military base comes with a 1+ autodeploy... maybe you should have something similar on the valcanoe? or maye make it a 3 nuetral instead of 5...
Actually, I think it'd be the opposite. The base is harder to take, considering how you have to go through several killer neutrals to get to it, and has no additional bonuses aside from the auto-deploy. Keep in mind that you can only assault in one direction from it, so the extra troop will likely be defense-exclusive.

No it really isn't harder to take... one troop harder... but valcanoe comes with no bonus, so why try for it in any scenario?

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Thu May 03, 2012 6:51 am

swimmerdude99 wrote:
No it really isn't harder to take... one troop harder... but valcanoe comes with no bonus, so why try for it in any scenario?

it's ok as it is now. from the games i've looked at and played there's a pretty balanced share of people going for the volcano or the base. it's hugely dependent on game settings and number of players.
for example in a trench game most people will avoid the base and go just for the volcano.

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Thu May 03, 2012 8:45 am

DiM wrote:
swimmerdude99 wrote:
No it really isn't harder to take... one troop harder... but valcanoe comes with no bonus, so why try for it in any scenario?
it's ok as it is now. from the games i've looked at and played there's a pretty balanced share of people going for the volcano or the base. it's hugely dependent on game settings and number of players.
for example in a trench game most people will avoid the base and go just for the volcano.

Really? In the trench games I've played, we have went for the base & base area over the volanco! But we could be the anomaly.

--Andy

chapcrap · Post by **chapcrap** » Thu May 03, 2012 3:05 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:
DiM wrote:
swimmerdude99 wrote:
No it really isn't harder to take... one troop harder... but valcanoe comes with no bonus, so why try for it in any scenario?
it's ok as it is now. from the games i've looked at and played there's a pretty balanced share of people going for the volcano or the base. it's hugely dependent on game settings and number of players.
for example in a trench game most people will avoid the base and go just for the volcano.
Really? In the trench games I've played, we have went for the base & base area over the volanco! But we could be the anomaly.

--Andy

I have to agree with Andy. It seems like you're arguments aren't backed up from what I have seen.

zimmah · Post by **zimmah** » Fri May 04, 2012 8:28 am

chapcrap wrote:
AndyDufresne wrote:
DiM wrote:
swimmerdude99 wrote:
No it really isn't harder to take... one troop harder... but valcanoe comes with no bonus, so why try for it in any scenario?
it's ok as it is now. from the games i've looked at and played there's a pretty balanced share of people going for the volcano or the base. it's hugely dependent on game settings and number of players.
for example in a trench game most people will avoid the base and go just for the volcano.
Really? In the trench games I've played, we have went for the base & base area over the volanco! But we could be the anomaly.

--Andy
I have to agree with Andy. It seems like you're arguments aren't backed up from what I have seen.

Game 10922123

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Fri May 04, 2012 9:37 am

Maybe the above is the anomaly! haha.

I'll continue to play around.

--Andy

thenobodies80 · Post by **thenobodies80** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:18 pm

- - - - Quenching

---The Beta period has concluded for the Island of Doom Map. All objections have had their time. The Foundry and I hereby brand this map with the Foundry Brand. Let it be known that this map is now ready to be released into live play.

Congratulations DiM and Zimmah, your shiny new medals are well-earned

Conquer Club, enjoy!

thenobodies80

nolefan5311 · Post by **nolefan5311** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:37 pm

Congrats DiM

zimmah · Post by **zimmah** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 2:40 pm

nice

agentcom · Post by **agentcom** » Sat Aug 11, 2012 12:48 pm

I know this is out of beta, but I've now been in two games where someone suggested a fort or attack from Mus to Qua. No one caught that those two weren't connected. I don't know what it is about those two territs, but for some reason they look connected at least to my sample of me and maybe 5 teammates. Does anyone else have this problem?

2012-05-05 04:29:18 - emporium [team]: I thought there was a link from mus to qua
2012-05-07 14:39:57 - agentcom [team]: emp, I did too

2012-08-11 12:03:13 - Benzorrr [team]: f*ck i cant fort into your bonus
2012-08-11 12:03:18 - Benzorrr [team]: looked at the map wrong
2012-08-11 12:42:43 - agentcom [team]: I have made that mistake, too. Same territs different game. And didn't catch it here either. I don't know why I think they're connected.

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Sat Aug 11, 2012 1:01 pm

i honestly have no idea why you'd think those are connected.
the paths are very clear and there's obviously no path there.

anyway, this problem should be gone once my maps are removed so no point worrying about it.

Post by **IcePack** » Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:01 pm

agentcom wrote:I know this is out of beta, but I've now been in two games where someone suggested a fort or attack from Mus to Qua. No one caught that those two weren't connected. I don't know what it is about those two territs, but for some reason they look connected at least to my sample of me and maybe 5 teammates. Does anyone else have this problem?

2012-05-05 04:29:18 - emporium [team]: I thought there was a link from mus to qua
2012-05-07 14:39:57 - agentcom [team]: emp, I did too

2012-08-11 12:03:13 - Benzorrr [team]: f*ck i cant fort into your bonus
2012-08-11 12:03:18 - Benzorrr [team]: looked at the map wrong
2012-08-11 12:42:43 - agentcom [team]: I have made that mistake, too. Same territs different game. And didn't catch it here either. I don't know why I think they're connected.

I'm not sure why you and the others think its connected. I dont have any troubles seeing that they aren't.
IcePack

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:17 am

Yeah, they are near each other, and I can see why someone might think they are connected, but I think it is pretty clear on the map.

--Andy

agentcom · Post by **agentcom** » Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:36 pm

Yeah, both times it has happened, I've felt like an idiot. I just thought I'd throw it out there and see if it was a widespread perception. But apparently it's just me

ManBungalow · Post by **ManBungalow** » Mon Nov 05, 2012 5:11 pm

Can we redo this thread but without the Supersize stamp?

Even the small map image doesn't fit on my screen in a game and the regions are so far apart.

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