Master of Mindgames Mafia Win

[FloresDelMal]

Hmm... something it's not safe to reveal yet has caused me to disbelieve the messages claiming "mason". Add this to the fact that ace hasn't been sticking to his story, and I'm very very suspicious of them. So I'm going to have to

vote lovo.

maybe when they say "masons" they meant cult.

[ga7]

This might be as good a time as any to provide some explanation on the messages we get.
From the Signups thread:

It steals a bit of meta-mafia from Exile's game, but its a stripped down version that consists of people in the signup list, and they can be lynched once found out.

For the curious ones, take a look at Ex' original game here: http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... 13&t=27703

Basically 2-3 players are sending these messages. They normally support opposing sides (like one for town one for scum one for cult) have cool powers but do not know all the people on their side, or do but can't communicate directly with them, this kind of things. Here I think it's likely it concerns only 2 players, but you never know. We can't really be sure who's telling us "info" as they will all want to save their followers/impersonate each other if we identify one/etc so at this point only lynches can give us good info. It'd be a pity to lose a roleblocker at this point, sure, but if they're cult we cut them off before they grow that way.

[fireedud]

OH yeah just to let you know, I will be away for the weekend.

[danodukebb]

OH yeah just to let you know, I will be away for the weekend.

Is that because your scum????
FOS fireedud

[fireedud]

OH yeah just to let you know, I will be away for the weekend.

Is that because your scum????
FOS fireedud

very...logical...reason....

[animorpherv1]

OK, guys, we got a message saying that LoVo is town, and is mason, so shouldn't we unvote him? unvote?

[cmckinney]

We also got another message saying that he is the godfather.

[mr. incrediball]

This might be as good a time as any to provide some explanation on the messages we get.
From the Signups thread:

It steals a bit of meta-mafia from Exile's game, but its a stripped down version that consists of people in the signup list, and they can be lynched once found out.

For the curious ones, take a look at Ex' original game here: http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewto ... 13&t=27703

Basically 2-3 players are sending these messages. They normally support opposing sides (like one for town one for scum one for cult) have cool powers but do not know all the people on their side, or do but can't communicate directly with them, this kind of things. Here I think it's likely it concerns only 2 players, but you never know. We can't really be sure who's telling us "info" as they will all want to save their followers/impersonate each other if we identify one/etc so at this point only lynches can give us good info. It'd be a pity to lose a roleblocker at this point, sure, but if they're cult we cut them off before they grow that way.

that's my first game, that is!

[danodukebb]

OH yeah just to let you know, I will be away for the weekend.

Is that because your scum????
FOS fireedud

very...logical...reason....

cool it dude, it was a joke hence the smiley face

[animorpherv1]

Anywayz, going back to the game, that's very likely, all we have to do is lynchsomeone that voted for LoVo after the "LoVo is Godfather" thing, and I'm pretty sure we'll have our answer!

[FloresDelMal]

Anywayz, going back to the game, that's very likely, all we have to do is lynchsomeone that voted for LoVo after the "LoVo is Godfather" thing, and I'm pretty sure we'll have our answer!

can you make your thought process clearer please? because im having troubles to grasp your logic.
Plus lovo being 1 of the very few very experienced players in the game, that makes him a perfect choice for godfather.

[Ditocoaf]

The messages that say that LoVo is a mason, are lying. I know this for an absolute fact.

[animorpherv1]

Anywayz, going back to the game, that's very likely, all we have to do is lynchsomeone that voted for LoVo after the "LoVo is Godfather" thing, and I'm pretty sure we'll have our answer!

can you make your thought process clearer please? because im having troubles to grasp your logic.
Plus lovo being 1 of the very few very experienced players in the game, that makes him a perfect choice for godfather.

Cmc said a few posts above this something about another person telling that LoVo is Godfather, obviously, so I thought we lynch a random person on that list, and it'll tell us if the person is mafia or not. If they get a mafia on them, there most likely not mafia.

[Ditocoaf]

Anywayz, going back to the game, that's very likely, all we have to do is lynchsomeone that voted for LoVo after the "LoVo is Godfather" thing, and I'm pretty sure we'll have our answer!

can you make your thought process clearer please? because im having troubles to grasp your logic.
Plus lovo being 1 of the very few very experienced players in the game, that makes him a perfect choice for godfather.

Cmc said a few posts above this something about another person telling that LoVo is Godfather, obviously, so I thought we lynch a random person on that list, and it'll tell us if the person is mafia or not. If they get a mafia on them, there most likely not mafia.

ani, I don't think you understand. We appear to have two or three people sending us anonymous messages. first, we got one message, saying that LoVo is a mason roleblocker. Then we got another message via the mod, saying that LoVo was the godfather. Then, the mod gave us a third anonymous message, saying again that LoVo was a mason. We can't seem to trust any of these messages.

[cmckinney]

The messages that say that LoVo is a mason, are lying. I know this for an absolute fact.

So in turn..LoVo is lying?

[william18]

The messages that say that LoVo is a mason, are lying. I know this for an absolute fact.

What made you come to this conclusion?

[XGSuperstar]

Vote Count:

Ace1217 (0) -
LoVo (4) - Ga7, FloresDelMal, danodukebb, Ditocoaf
Danoduke (0) -

15 alive+lovo, 8 to lynch. Deadline coming up soon.

Dammit finish up, the suspense is killing me.

edit:

Deadline for day is next Thursday, June 26, at 4PM EST, 8PM GMT.

As that was my fault, deadline is tomorrow at 6PM EST, 11 PM GMT [I believe that's the proper shift]. I should have been warning, I apologize.

[Ditocoaf]

Seeing as there's not much time left, and I won't be able to be on tomorrow before 3 pm (my time), I'll just explain myself and hope for the best. I'm fox. I certainly didn't send that last message, so I obviously find it very hard to trust what it says. Assuming that one of the messages is telling the truth, that makes LoVo the godfather. Even without that assumption (which I don't really think we can make), the fact that the third voice would lie about who they are means that they can't be trusted; and why would an untrustworthy person defend LoVo, unless he was scum? So my vote stays with LoVo.

[danodukebb]

Seeing as there's not much time left, and I won't be able to be on tomorrow before 3 pm (my time), I'll just explain myself and hope for the best. I'm fox. I certainly didn't send that last message, so I obviously find it very hard to trust what it says. Assuming that one of the messages is telling the truth, that makes LoVo the godfather. Even without that assumption (which I don't really think we can make), the fact that the third voice would lie about who they are means that they can't be trusted; and why would an untrustworthy person defend LoVo, unless he was scum? So my vote stays with LoVo.

my votes for lovo too but how can you say assuming one is right that makes him the godfather? what about the other two?? how can you just throw them away without caution?

[cmckinney]

Seeing as there's not much time left, and I won't be able to be on tomorrow before 3 pm (my time), I'll just explain myself and hope for the best. I'm fox. I certainly didn't send that last message, so I obviously find it very hard to trust what it says. Assuming that one of the messages is telling the truth, that makes LoVo the godfather. Even without that assumption (which I don't really think we can make), the fact that the third voice would lie about who they are means that they can't be trusted; and why would an untrustworthy person defend LoVo, unless he was scum? So my vote stays with LoVo.

my votes for lovo too but how can you say assuming one is right that makes him the godfather? what about the other two?? how can you just throw them away without caution?

I see your logic Dito, and with not much time left, I'll Vote LoVo

Dano: He's saying that since he's pretty sure that the 3rd one is lying, that means that he's pretty sure LoVo is scum. And out of the first 2 messages one was saying scum, and one was saying town. So obviously one of them is lying, which is probably the first one as of now. He's not throwing them away, he just knows that one of them is lying, and one of them is telling the truth.

[lord voldemort]

sigh...ive done all you can..i hoped id have a lil more credit than that
i admitted my f*ck up...and now im getting lynched..
your lynching a decent role...

[danodukebb]

unvote i dont know what to do but i dont want to waste a kill this early, if it comes to a dead line so be it, hopefully we will learn more from these messages in the next time

[Ditocoaf]

oh come on, don't fall for that old one. If you really want to wait for deadline, then go ahead and unvote, but don't have it be because of the "oh well your loss" line. That's just depressing. I was using that line in my first game as scum. I'm not saying that a townie wouldn't say it; of course they would. But it doesn't give us any reason to sway our vote. Your vote should be decided on analysis of how likely it is that he's scum based on everything he's said or has been said about him. It has to be pretty seriously hopeless to decide on a no-lynch.

[LSU Tiger Josh]

Vote Lord Voldemort we're up against a deadline although I do have about a 33% doubt that he might be a townie.

[danodukebb]

oh come on, don't fall for that old one. If you really want to wait for deadline, then go ahead and unvote, but don't have it be because of the "oh well your loss" line. That's just depressing. I was using that line in my first game as scum. I'm not saying that a townie wouldn't say it; of course they would. But it doesn't give us any reason to sway our vote. Your vote should be decided on analysis of how likely it is that he's scum based on everything he's said or has been said about him. It has to be pretty seriously hopeless to decide on a no-lynch.

thats not the reason, i have other reasons not to vote for him, none i can share right now...may make me sound scummy but im doing what i believe is right at the moment, vote for him all you want, when he turns out townee or pro-town don't blame me