What is your military experience?pimpdave wrote:So that makes you an expert? What does your best friend's sister say?swimmerdude99 wrote:My 3 cousins in the Marines... my uncle... my grandfather... my best friends sister is in the military...? I'm not sure what you are getting at here, that post made no point, and addressed nothing I said.
FOX News: "Women in the Military Deserve to be Raped!"
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There is a risk when you enter this world. There is a risk when you go to war.
There should be no risk for a woman who joins the army, just because she is
a woman.
There should be no risk for a woman who joins the army, just because she is
a woman.
Re: FOX News: Women in the Military Deserve to be Raped!
lmaothe carpet man wrote:okay hippys maybe you did not read: i am not saying that it is okay for the women to be raped. i am saying that there is a risk when the woman joins the army. think: it recruits people who can't find employment anywhere else (low intelligence) and how want to kill people (vicious nature)
there is obviously danger there, same as walking through the favelas
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Men are not the same as women. There are immense differences and if you ignore that basic reality you do so at your own peril.
Imagine for a second, a woman plays on a team in the NBA. Do you think the team really wants that kind of circus? How can you not understand that something like that will take a lot of focus off of the game, the strategy, the locker room, the media, the attention, team chemistry. Oh but it's a good idea because it will sell a lot of jerseys/voters.

Plus, I know plenty of ladies who have went into the military only to get knocked up in the first 2 months and come back home.
Imagine for a second, a woman plays on a team in the NBA. Do you think the team really wants that kind of circus? How can you not understand that something like that will take a lot of focus off of the game, the strategy, the locker room, the media, the attention, team chemistry. Oh but it's a good idea because it will sell a lot of jerseys/voters.

Plus, I know plenty of ladies who have went into the military only to get knocked up in the first 2 months and come back home.
http://www.4militarywomen.org/Pregnancy.htmIn order to ensure that a military member’s pregnancy does not have a negative impact on military operations, the Department of Defense (DoD) and the individual military services should ensure that they have robust training programs in place to educate both men and women on their responsibilities as potential parents, the options to prevent unplanned pregnancies, and their obligations to meet their service commitments. Additionally, each Service must prepare assignment policies that will allow quick filling of billets, including for reasons of pregnancy.
Re: FOX News: Women in the Military Deserve to be Raped!
Few of which have much of a bearing on their capacity as a soldier; if they can pass the tests, accept the culture and get on with the job there's no reason for any kind of inequality. I'd hazard to guess that most annoyance in front line woman soldiers is caused, not by sexual advances but, by idiots like you with outdated opinions on "where woman belong"Phatscotty wrote:Men are not the same as women. There are immense differences and if you ignore that basic reality you do so at your own peril.
Yes but were talking about soldiering here; to convert this into your analogy, all that matters (at the end of the day) is what happens on the court. If she performs at the expected NBA level then good on her.Imagine for a second, a woman plays on a team in the NBA. Do you think the team really wants that kind of circus? How can you not understand that something like that will take a lot of focus off of the game, the strategy, the locker room, the media, the attention, team chemistry. Oh but it's a good idea because it will sell a lot of jerseys/voters.
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Yeah, the BIBLE says so.Phatscotty wrote:Men are not the same as women.

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Natty, I have some stuff you should check outnatty dread wrote:Yeah, the BIBLE says so.Phatscotty wrote:Men are not the same as women.
nothing about the Bible, but plenty about Columbia University professors and P.H.D's, and how proud Darwin would be
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exactly phatscotty. people are too concerned with 'it is everyone's right to do everything all of the time'
they turn this into an issue of oppression or inequality when really it is not
they turn this into an issue of oppression or inequality when really it is not
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So, you guys saying women should be banned from the army/police/firefighters?
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You should probably enlist carpet man, you seem to have the proper military aptitude. Of course a soldier's military status should be achieved on merit only and not simply advanced to meet desired squad numbers. That being said, NOBODY ESCAPES BASIC TRAINING or boot camp without meeting specific requirements and no woman should have to worry about being sexually assaulted by the goons she serves with regardless of rank.
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Oh wait, is that an appeal to authority I see hanging from your metaphorical shoe like a soggy piece of metaphorical toilet paper?Phatscotty wrote:nothing about the Bible, but plenty about Columbia University professors and P.H.D's, and how proud Darwin would be
Scotty, here's something I really think you should read. It's a pretty objectively written piece about all of these popular studies that purport to find some "hard-wired" differences between men and women, and also why a lot of these studies are methodologically flawed.Phatscotty wrote:Why men never remember and why women never forget
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For some reason I feel like this isn't a solid statement because nobody said that... You have inferred that and stated it in a way that makes people sound like idiots. Great argument right here. I'll add:Haggis_McMutton wrote:So, you guys saying women should be banned from the army/police/firefighters?
So you guys are saying you hate women and think they should be slaves?
Seriously dude, take what is said, not reform it
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That isn't a solid statement because it's a question not a statement.swimmerdude99 wrote:For some reason I feel like this isn't a solid statement because nobody said that... You have inferred that and stated it in a way that makes people sound like idiots. Great argument right here. I'll add:Haggis_McMutton wrote:So, you guys saying women should be banned from the army/police/firefighters?
So you guys are saying you hate women and think they should be slaves?
Seriously dude, take what is said, not reform it
I was trying to get them to clarify their bullshit so it could then be thoroughly busted, while they stay up in the air with "Hey women are different than men, I'll just leave this video here but I won't actually take a stance on the issue" you can't really touch the nonsense.
So please make a statement, what does this difference between men and women entail? How should government act based on this difference?
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Conservatives hate women.
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natty dread wrote:Yeah, the BIBLE says so.Phatscotty wrote:Men are not the same as women.
No, it's just the opposite of the authority you originally introduced, out of left field... kind of like your response here.natty dread wrote:Oh wait, is that an appeal to authority I see hanging from your metaphorical shoe like a soggy piece of metaphorical toilet paper?Phatscotty wrote:nothing about the Bible, but plenty about Columbia University professors and P.H.D's, and how proud Darwin would be
I will take a leap of faith here and guess you reject the Bible. If no, why did you bring the Bible up? I certainly didn't.
Try to keep it together
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Oh wait, the bible is an "authority" now?Phatscotty wrote:No, it's just the opposite of the authority you originally introduced
But unlike your response where you only quote part of my post and disregard the actual content of the post?Phatscotty wrote:out of left field... kind of like your response here.
Are you dodging, Scotty?
Are you?
Do you refute the fact that the bible says men are superior to women?Phatscotty wrote:I will take a leap of faith here and guess you reject the Bible. If no, why did you bring the Bible up? I certainly didn't.
Try to be honest for once, Scotty.Phatscotty wrote:Try to keep it together

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all i am saying is that women obviously face the risk. same as the woman who gets drunk and leaves a club alone faces a risk. bad if it happens to them but not anything you can really stop.
they can still enlist if they want to but, be realistic about the risk. do not act all suprise when a woman surrounded by trained killing men is attacked.
they can still enlist if they want to but, be realistic about the risk. do not act all suprise when a woman surrounded by trained killing men is attacked.
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Nice victim-blaming.the carpet man wrote:all i am saying is that women obviously face the risk. same as the woman who gets drunk and leaves a club alone faces a risk. bad if it happens to them but not anything you can really stop.
they can still enlist if they want to but, be realistic about the risk. do not act all suprise when a woman surrounded by trained killing men is attacked.

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if i walk through a favela of rio de janeiro waving my wallet around going 'i have money', was there not a risk i took as well as a robber who did a nasty thing to rob me?
do not join the military if you do not want things to be tough. that is the nature of military. go and do a civilian job. you can not shoot men in the head and occupy foreign lands and then be timid about personal matters.
do not join the military if you do not want things to be tough. that is the nature of military. go and do a civilian job. you can not shoot men in the head and occupy foreign lands and then be timid about personal matters.
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As someone who served in the military for 23 years, this is a load of horseshit.the carpet man wrote:all i am saying is that women obviously face the risk. same as the woman who gets drunk and leaves a club alone faces a risk. bad if it happens to them but not anything you can really stop.
they can still enlist if they want to but, be realistic about the risk. do not act all suprise when a woman surrounded by trained killing men is attacked.
...I prefer a man who will burn the flag and then wrap himself in the Constitution to a man who will burn the Constitution and then wrap himself in the flag.
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what branch of military were you? the branch that talks about its feelings?
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Is there a branch that talks about it's feelings? I'm unaware of that one.the carpet man wrote:what branch of military were you? the branch that talks about its feelings?
...I prefer a man who will burn the flag and then wrap himself in the Constitution to a man who will burn the Constitution and then wrap himself in the flag.
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Oh, I see. You equate women who drink alcohol with waving your wallet in a favela?the carpet man wrote:if i walk through a favela of rio de janeiro waving my wallet around going 'i have money',
In other words... women who drink are inviting rape by being drunk? And women who go to military are inviting rape by... serving their country?

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What's wrong about talking about feelings?the carpet man wrote:what branch of military were you? the branch that talks about its feelings?
