well said brothern, well saidmillej11 wrote:Nope, that'd be the NFC East champP Gizzle wrote:
ex. what division can you be 8-8 in and go to the playoffs? the NFC west....
What's so bad about the Packers? They were 8-8P Gizzle wrote:what the division can include the Packers AND the Lions? the NFC North....
They've been superbowl favorites the last 3 years. That's more of a team issue than a conference issue.P Gizzle wrote:what division can have the Super Bowl Favorites (panthers) go on a downward spiral? the NFC south....
All those teams have the worst fans anyways.P Gizzle wrote:what division can have 3 teams in the playoffs, yet none of them have more than 10 wins? The NFC East....
The NFC was the original NFL, before they were invited the AFL into our league.P Gizzle wrote:it's a fact, the AFC is far superior than the NFC
The AFC has the Cleveland Browns and the Oakland Raiders...nuff said
Superbowl wins:
NFC 21
AFC 19
NFC= better
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I don't think anyone has called them the worlds greatest defence for quite awhile.P Gizzle wrote:might i start with the "world's greatest defense" giving up 24 points? that's not so great is it? might i also mention that the only reason we lost was because Matt "im a retard" Hasselbeck decided that holding on to the ball would have been better than throwing it away, puttin the hawks outside of FG territory. out play calling (as usual) sucked due to holmgren's inability to realize that Alexander can only run inside and does much better that way....Evil Semp wrote:hey Gizzle you forgot one question.
Which division has the team that choked in the playoff that P Gizzle likes so much. NFC West.
Go BEARS
just be glad ur in the Super Bowl, you'll be the butt of many jokes, much like i was, after it.......
The first time the Bears played the SeaChicks you said Alexander would have made a difference. He didn't. Blame it on whom ever you want.
I am very happy the Bears are in the Super Bowl But the difference between the two of us is I won't make excuses if the Colts win.
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That would be the Seahawks a couple years agomillej11 wrote:Nope, that'd be the NFC East champP Gizzle wrote:
ex. what division can you be 8-8 in and go to the playoffs? the NFC west....
P Gizzle wrote:what the division can include the Packers AND the Lions? the NFC North....
they've always suckedmillej11 wrote:What's so bad about the Packers? They were 8-8
P Gizzle wrote:what division can have the Super Bowl Favorites (panthers) go on a downward spiral? the NFC south....
has the AFC done that?millej11 wrote:They've been superbowl favorites the last 3 years. That's more of a team issue than a conference issue.
P Gizzle wrote:what division can have 3 teams in the playoffs, yet none of them have more than 10 wins? The NFC East....
what's ur point?millej11 wrote:All those teams have the worst fans anyways.
P Gizzle wrote:it's a fact, the AFC is far superior than the NFC
ok, so what? the NL was before the AL in baseball...the AL is better....the NFC has the lions, cards, hawks...would you like me to go on....millej11 wrote:The NFC was the original NFL, before they were invited the AFL into our league.
The AFC has the Cleveland Browns and the Oakland Raiders...nuff said
Superbowl wins:
NFC 21
AFC 19
NFC= better
look RECENTLY at SB wins.....
AFC=loads better[/quote]
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And 20 other teams in both conferences through out history.That would be the Seahawks a couple years ago
P Gizzle wrote:what the division can include the Packers AND the Lions? the NFC North....
millej11 wrote:What's so bad about the Packers? They were 8-8
3 superbowl winsP Gizzle wrote:they've always sucked
1 loosing season in the last 16 years
One of the greatest franchises in NFL history
yeah...they've always sucked
P Gizzle wrote:what division can have the Super Bowl Favorites (panthers) go on a downward spiral? the NFC south....
millej11 wrote:They've been superbowl favorites the last 3 years. That's more of a team issue than a conference issue.
How about the colts the last 4 years? Everyone knew by midseason that the panthers were't as great as they appear on paper. The colts on the other hand go undefeated 3/4 of the season, and the media's saying 16-0, but come playoff time, it's a blowoutP Gizzle wrote:has the AFC done that?
P Gizzle wrote:it's a fact, the AFC is far superior than the NFC
millej11 wrote:The NFC was the original NFL, before they were invited the AFL into our league.
The AFC has the Cleveland Browns and the Oakland Raiders...nuff said
Superbowl wins:
NFC 21
AFC 19
NFC= better
I'm looking at recent SB wins, and sure, the last 10 years it's been 7-3, AFC. But leading up to that was a 13 year streak of NFC superbowl champs.P Gizzle wrote:ok, so what? the NL was before the AL in baseball...the AL is better....the NFC has the lions, cards, hawks...would you like me to go on....
look RECENTLY at SB wins.....
weren't you saying that earlier this year. "oh our defense is so good noone can stop us!"Evil Semp wrote:I don't think anyone has called them the worlds greatest defence for quite awhile.P Gizzle wrote:might i start with the "world's greatest defense" giving up 24 points? that's not so great is it? might i also mention that the only reason we lost was because Matt "im a retard" Hasselbeck decided that holding on to the ball would have been better than throwing it away, puttin the hawks outside of FG territory. out play calling (as usual) sucked due to holmgren's inability to realize that Alexander can only run inside and does much better that way....Evil Semp wrote:hey Gizzle you forgot one question.
Which division has the team that choked in the playoff that P Gizzle likes so much. NFC West.
Go BEARS
just be glad ur in the Super Bowl, you'll be the butt of many jokes, much like i was, after it.......
The first time the Bears played the SeaChicks you said Alexander would have made a difference. He didn't. Blame it on whom ever you want.
I am very happy the Bears are in the Super Bowl But the difference between the two of us is I won't make excuses if the Colts win.
and Alexander made ALL the difference....are we watching the same game
i call it BS, you call it an excuse....tomato, tomahto, right?
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A loss is a loss. The score might have been closer but the end result was the same.P Gizzle wrote:weren't you saying that earlier this year. "oh our defense is so good noone can stop us!"Evil Semp wrote:I don't think anyone has called them the worlds greatest defence for quite awhile.P Gizzle wrote:might i start with the "world's greatest defense" giving up 24 points? that's not so great is it? might i also mention that the only reason we lost was because Matt "im a retard" Hasselbeck decided that holding on to the ball would have been better than throwing it away, puttin the hawks outside of FG territory. out play calling (as usual) sucked due to holmgren's inability to realize that Alexander can only run inside and does much better that way....Evil Semp wrote:hey Gizzle you forgot one question.
Which division has the team that choked in the playoff that P Gizzle likes so much. NFC West.
Go BEARS
just be glad ur in the Super Bowl, you'll be the butt of many jokes, much like i was, after it.......
The first time the Bears played the SeaChicks you said Alexander would have made a difference. He didn't. Blame it on whom ever you want.
I am very happy the Bears are in the Super Bowl But the difference between the two of us is I won't make excuses if the Colts win.
and Alexander made ALL the difference....are we watching the same game
i call it BS, you call it an excuse....tomato, tomahto, right?
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Man, P Gizzle just really hates dem Bears doesn't he?
You get right down to it, there's really only one primary reason why the Bears' defense is giving up more yardage and points than they did earlier in the year. Tommie Harris got sidelined for the rest of the season with a hamstring injury in Week 12. While his replacement Alfonso Boone has done an adequate job for the most part, Harris was a juggernaut who consistently required double coverage to be stopped at all (and he still managed to get in 5 sacks and a fumble recovery). With Harris in the mix, the defensive front four could consistently collapse the pocket and flush out or even sack a QB, leaving seven guys back in pass coverage.
If Harris were able to play against the Colts, it'd be a much different game. Regardless, it's going to be one helluva game, and I think it's going to be a close contest.
You get right down to it, there's really only one primary reason why the Bears' defense is giving up more yardage and points than they did earlier in the year. Tommie Harris got sidelined for the rest of the season with a hamstring injury in Week 12. While his replacement Alfonso Boone has done an adequate job for the most part, Harris was a juggernaut who consistently required double coverage to be stopped at all (and he still managed to get in 5 sacks and a fumble recovery). With Harris in the mix, the defensive front four could consistently collapse the pocket and flush out or even sack a QB, leaving seven guys back in pass coverage.
If Harris were able to play against the Colts, it'd be a much different game. Regardless, it's going to be one helluva game, and I think it's going to be a close contest.

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sfhbballnut wrote:P Gizzle the seahawks are not that bad, give it up. And yes the NFC has some bad teams but my point was they have more good teams that the AFC and the beat each other up. The AFC has a few great teams that dominate the bad ones. so they're about even overall
tell that to Semp
i disagree, though....
the AFC has.....Chargers, Pats, Colts, Bengals (when they aren't in trouble), Ravens....
The NFC has.....Bears.........
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Evil Semp wrote:A loss is a loss. The score might have been closer but the end result was the same.P Gizzle wrote:weren't you saying that earlier this year. "oh our defense is so good noone can stop us!"Evil Semp wrote:I don't think anyone has called them the worlds greatest defence for quite awhile.P Gizzle wrote:might i start with the "world's greatest defense" giving up 24 points? that's not so great is it? might i also mention that the only reason we lost was because Matt "im a retard" Hasselbeck decided that holding on to the ball would have been better than throwing it away, puttin the hawks outside of FG territory. out play calling (as usual) sucked due to holmgren's inability to realize that Alexander can only run inside and does much better that way....Evil Semp wrote:hey Gizzle you forgot one question.
Which division has the team that choked in the playoff that P Gizzle likes so much. NFC West.
Go BEARS
just be glad ur in the Super Bowl, you'll be the butt of many jokes, much like i was, after it.......
The first time the Bears played the SeaChicks you said Alexander would have made a difference. He didn't. Blame it on whom ever you want.
I am very happy the Bears are in the Super Bowl But the difference between the two of us is I won't make excuses if the Colts win.
and Alexander made ALL the difference....are we watching the same game
i call it BS, you call it an excuse....tomato, tomahto, right?
really? if the roethlisberger is not a td, then it is 14-10.....add that with the "pushing off" then, it is now 17-14, no?
and i'd like to see the packers without Favre, and Green, and then see if they're 9-7.....
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ok, we took Alexander and Hasselbeck....they were 9-7....now get hurt favre and green, i wanna see the packers fail, as usualmillej11 wrote:ooookaaaaay..... I'm not sure where you're going with that one, but I know it was directed at me.P Gizzle wrote:
and i'd like to see the packers without Favre, and Green, and then see if they're 9-7.....
How about we take Alexander and Tutapu from the hawks, and lets see how they fair.
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For someone to say the phrase, "as usual", there needs to be a trend. And since the packers have the best record in the NFL since 1993, with one losing season during that period and 2 superbowls, I fail to see a trend. But maybe that's just me.P Gizzle wrote:ok, we took Alexander and Hasselbeck....they were 9-7....now get hurt favre and green, i wanna see the packers fail, as usualmillej11 wrote:ooookaaaaay..... I'm not sure where you're going with that one, but I know it was directed at me.P Gizzle wrote:
and i'd like to see the packers without Favre, and Green, and then see if they're 9-7.....
How about we take Alexander and Tutapu from the hawks, and lets see how they fair.
Anyone here other than me think that PeeGuzzle is just flaming others because he can't back up his own side?
how well would you do, if you didnt have 2 of the best players on ur team, not to mention a hurt secondary, which ALREADY sucks something awfulmillej11 wrote:For someone to say the phrase, "as usual", there needs to be a trend. And since the packers have the best record in the NFL since 1993, with one losing season during that period and 2 superbowls, I fail to see a trend. But maybe that's just me.P Gizzle wrote:ok, we took Alexander and Hasselbeck....they were 9-7....now get hurt favre and green, i wanna see the packers fail, as usualmillej11 wrote:ooookaaaaay..... I'm not sure where you're going with that one, but I know it was directed at me.P Gizzle wrote:
and i'd like to see the packers without Favre, and Green, and then see if they're 9-7.....
How about we take Alexander and Tutapu from the hawks, and lets see how they fair.
Anyone here other than me think that PeeGuzzle is just flaming others because he can't back up his own side?
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millej11 wrote:he can't be that bad. After all, he did get you guys to the superbowl. Tends to make odd decisions every once in a while though. Like completely failing to stop the run in SB XXXII against the broncos
EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE!! try every play, or two....
ok, in the bears game, he decided that Shaun Alexander was only gonna run outside....it so happens that when he runs outside we lose 3-6 yds. when he runs inside, we gain at least 10 yards!! WTF!
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