Golden Pantheon - Norse ~ Endgame, Scum win!

[Some7hingCLEVER]

im still getting readjusted to the strange ways logic works on this forum. a defense that would work most places fails epically here. i think im starting to get the hang of you guys though.

Could be we're smarter around here.

could be youre dumber

no need for personal shots like that.

[pancakemix]

im still getting readjusted to the strange ways logic works on this forum. a defense that would work most places fails epically here. i think im starting to get the hang of you guys though.

Could be we're smarter around here.

could be youre dumber

Ok, that was uncalled for.

[strike wolf]

Neither side was really called for completely. Saf: by saying we're smarter you were implying that her friends were dumber and thus insulting her friends. Vodean: It's self explanatory who you were insulting.

The problem is it is just not logical to vote someone without fully understanding the reason behind it. It happens, yes but people would get voted 99 out of 100 times for similar stunts.

[freezie]

Vodean/Safari thing is going too far. Way too far.

Deadline is very, very near. We have until Edoc's come back basicly....

Unvote if needed

Vote: Safari

Cause..And I hate to do this..it's the only way to go until deadline. He did defend everything that has said against him, and he admitted he pushed Vodean a bit too much. But he did ''ask'' thor to counter claim, which he didn't -and shouldn't have-.

And we lack anything else to go on for now. Either something come up from this or we get a no lynch.

[freezie]

Just read my post again..And I don't like the sound of it XD

I am not asking to speedlynch, and I am well aware we're most probably going to hit a no lynch whatever we do here. My upper post seemed..Badly word in that sense.

[safariguy5]

Neither side was really called for completely. Saf: by saying we're smarter you were implying that her friends were dumber and thus insulting her friends. Vodean: It's self explanatory who you were insulting.

The problem is it is just not logical to vote someone without fully understanding the reason behind it. It happens, yes but people would get voted 99 out of 100 times for similar stunts.

I would like to point out that vodean said nothing about her friends. By other places, I took it to mean another mafia site like Epicmafia or something.

[jonty125]

I agree that saf and vodean went too far, but do we want a second D1 claim? I'll put saf @ L-2 if needs be.

[vodean]

Neither side was really called for completely. Saf: by saying we're smarter you were implying that her friends were dumber and thus insulting her friends. Vodean: It's self explanatory who you were insulting.

The problem is it is just not logical to vote someone without fully understanding the reason behind it. It happens, yes but people would get voted 99 out of 100 times for similar stunts.

I would like to point out that vodean said nothing about her friends. By other places, I took it to mean another mafia site like Epicmafia or something.

im sorry if i came off as saying you are stupid. it was just the logical counter-response, i guess i should have thought through it more. Basically, all im trying to say is that its not that you are smarter or dumber, its just that your logical pathways are different.

Can we get a vote count? i cant remember the last time we had one.

[vodean]

I agree that saf and vodean went too far, but do we want a second D1 claim? I'll put saf @ L-2 if needs be.

what, dont want to jump on the BW unless people say its OK? FOS jonty.
also, i only count 2 votes on saf. maybe its my mistake, but that would put saf at L-5, not L-3.

It seems like you were also the last person to unvote me (excluding soundman, who's vote i still count as being on me), as well as the last to vote me. trying to follow town and be as sheepish as possible, are we?

[jonty125]

I agree that saf and vodean went too far, but do we want a second D1 claim? I'll put saf @ L-2 if needs be.

what, dont want to jump on the BW unless people say its OK? FOS jonty.
also, i only count 2 votes on saf. maybe its my mistake, but that would put saf at L-5, not L-3.

No, in a NV game, 2 claims could be potentially risky and I said I would put him @ L-2 if needed. I DID NOT say he was @ L-3.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

I agree that saf and vodean went too far, but do we want a second D1 claim? I'll put saf @ L-2 if needs be.

what, dont want to jump on the BW unless people say its OK? FOS jonty.
also, i only count 2 votes on saf. maybe its my mistake, but that would put saf at L-5, not L-3.

It seems like you were also the last person to unvote me (excluding soundman, who's vote i still count as being on me), as well as the last to vote me. trying to follow town and be as sheepish as possible, are we?

this right here is scummy. your saying cause he was the last to vote and the last to unvote that he is sheeping? how is that sheeping. it is not.

[edocsil]

Vote Count

Clever (1) ~ PCM
Vodean (2) ~ Clever, Soundman
Safariguy (2) ~ Vodean Freezie
Jonty (2) ~ Everywhere, DJ

12 alive 7 to lynch

[vodean]

Vote Count

Clever (1) ~ PCM
Vodean (2) ~ Clever, Soundman
Safariguy (3) ~ , jonty Vodean Freezie
Jonty (3) ~ Everywhere, Freezie, DJ

12 alive 7 to lynch

jonty unvoted saf when he voted me. he never put his vote back. its just me and freezie.

I agree that saf and vodean went too far, but do we want a second D1 claim? I'll put saf @ L-2 if needs be.

what, dont want to jump on the BW unless people say its OK? FOS jonty.
also, i only count 2 votes on saf. maybe its my mistake, but that would put saf at L-5, not L-3.

It seems like you were also the last person to unvote me (excluding soundman, who's vote i still count as being on me), as well as the last to vote me. trying to follow town and be as sheepish as possible, are we?

when people vote someone, he follows and votes them. when people unvote someone, he follows and unvotes them. thats sheeping, and its scummy.

this right here is scummy. your saying cause he was the last to vote and the last to unvote that he is sheeping? how is that sheeping. it is not.

[vodean]

I agree that saf and vodean went too far, but do we want a second D1 claim? I'll put saf @ L-2 if needs be.

what, dont want to jump on the BW unless people say its OK? FOS jonty.
also, i only count 2 votes on saf. maybe its my mistake, but that would put saf at L-5, not L-3.

No, in a NV game, 2 claims could be potentially risky and I said I would put him @ L-2 if needed. I DID NOT say he was @ L-3.

yet you are still sheeping and saying that you will only vote with approval and support, as well as blatant BWing (if you were to actually vote). you havent even stated you reasons for supporting the case. its not the case i have a problem with. its your approach to it, as well as every other case.

[vodean]

Vote Count

Clever (1) ~ PCM
Vodean (2) ~ Clever, Soundman
Safariguy (3) ~ , jonty Vodean Freezie
Jonty (3) ~ Everywhere, Freezie, DJ

12 alive 7 to lynch

also, freezies vote is listed twice. his vote is on saf atm.

[edocsil]

Vote Count

Clever (1) ~ PCM
Vodean (2) ~ Clever, Soundman
Safariguy (3) ~ , jonty Vodean Freezie
Jonty (3) ~ Everywhere, Freezie, DJ

12 alive 7 to lynch

also, freezies vote is listed twice. his vote is on saf atm.

Fk me. I should have put off the VC till I was done with some IRL work.

[vodean]

clever, would you mind unvoting? your vote is a hold-out from the joke votes, and i was at L-1 when everyone thought it was L-2 as a result. thanks.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

clever, would you mind unvoting? your vote is a hold-out from the joke votes, and i was at L-1 when everyone thought it was L-2 as a result. thanks.

sure my bad unvote

[jonty125]

. you havent even stated you reasons for supporting the case.

That's why I aren't voting. I'm not in full approval of the case but will help if needed.

[vodean]

. you havent even stated you reasons for supporting the case.

That's why I aren't voting. I'm not in full approval of the case but will help if needed.

so what you're saying is that you dont support the case, but will vote on it if it becomes popular

[Djfireside]

. you havent even stated you reasons for supporting the case.

That's why I aren't voting. I'm not in full approval of the case but will help if needed.

so what you're saying is that you dont support the case, but will vote on it if it becomes popular

This is one reason I left the vote, has no other input but will play the safe role of hitting L-2 and sideline through.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

. you havent even stated you reasons for supporting the case.

That's why I aren't voting. I'm not in full approval of the case but will help if needed.

so what you're saying is that you dont support the case, but will vote on it if it becomes popular

i think he meant that he will help the case progress if needed

[vodean]

. you havent even stated you reasons for supporting the case.

That's why I aren't voting. I'm not in full approval of the case but will help if needed.

so what you're saying is that you dont support the case, but will vote on it if it becomes popular

This is one reason I left the vote, has no other input but will play the safe role of hitting L-2 and sideline through.

im with you, but think that we cant forget saf either.

clever, he never contributes. posts max one or two lines and votes. thats it.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

. you havent even stated you reasons for supporting the case.

That's why I aren't voting. I'm not in full approval of the case but will help if needed.

so what you're saying is that you dont support the case, but will vote on it if it becomes popular

This is one reason I left the vote, has no other input but will play the safe role of hitting L-2 and sideline through.

im with you, but think that we cant forget saf either.

clever, he never contributes. posts max one or two lines and votes. thats it.

oh the irony...

ill just shut up now. i like to be very active and post a lot, but clearly, you guys dont know me well enough to trust me, and so im just not gonna be as active or pushy.

is there really not a SINGLE person who sees what i see though?

Thor is by definition important.

I am the victim here.

if im not making much sense its cuz its very very late here and im sleeping already.

i DO have a role PM. i cant quote it, as per the OP, and i really dont want to reveal more than i have to, but i do have it. im not sure why you are so interested in it...

since i'm masoned to him, i DO!! thats what ive been saying. we got ONE role PM.

i claimed mason. without a counter-claim (it would be worth it to expose anyone to kill a mafia), i think theres not much to be said.

So I take it that you are town aligned then?

really? you ask this now ? YES!!! i am town.
FOS DJ for skimming

Same as /, I don't see how I said anything against saf, in the posts you have quoted.

to me you seem a little iffy, but then again, it seems like i see you as iffy in matrix as well, so maybe your meta pisses me off. given my situation, i cant really complain if thats the case. i do think you might be worth looking into, but lets see if anyone comes up with a better case first.

i dont think that there's a great case against saf, but i DO think that its better than the case against me atm, and people are still pushing me.

thats pretty much where im at too

and there is about 15 more but i dont wanna make this post to big.

[vodean]

when did everywhere even vote jonty? i cant seem to find it. also, jonty still shows 3 votes in the VC. clever, those are mostly defensive posts. when i go on the offense, i get much more extensive. also, i post frequently, leading to many more posts from me. this allows them to be shorter. im also very short and to the point, often, and do ADD TO CASES.
clever, why are you defending jonty so much?

see? a long post, because i am furthering a case, rather than showing the obvious holes in the case against me. this happens usually at least a couple times a page. my posts are substantive, even when they arent substantial.