Non-VANILLA Game 3 *Game Over* 14 Winners

mandalorian2298 · Post by **mandalorian2298** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 4:49 pm

sheepofdumb wrote:We have enough people for a second mafia or cult right?

for second mafia, no. But the Cult only start's with one (Cult Leader).

sheepofdumb · Post by **sheepofdumb** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 4:51 pm

So he could be talking about recruiting a cult. Just a thought.

mandalorian2298 · Post by **mandalorian2298** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 4:52 pm

unriggable wrote:I still dont understand 'dead and alive'...

we were joking with Fircoal, so he "modkilled" us before the game started. It's just a joke.

unriggable · Post by **unriggable** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 4:52 pm

sheepofdumb wrote:So he could be talking about recruiting a cult. Just a thought.

I dunno, I'd just put it in as a somewhat scummy comment. UNVOTE VOTE GREECE because I know some people feel awful when they lie (me to an extent) so when they say 'thei team' they are being vague for a reason

unriggable · Post by **unriggable** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 4:53 pm

mandalorian2298 wrote:
unriggable wrote:I still dont understand 'dead and alive'...
we were joking with Fircoal, so he "modkilled" us before the game started. It's just a joke.

Oh...I thought it was part of the game. NVM.

got tonkaed · Post by **got tonkaed** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 4:54 pm

personally i think we are getting a bit of chickens running around with our heads cut off in this whole greecepwns witch hunt. It certainly is possible that he has some kind of power or scum role...but it was the first post of the entire game by a noob player. Every game on mafia scum and most games on here start with posts that have stupid stuff in the content. Relax. I suppose i run a small risk of being wrong and having greece orchestrate the most brillant scum opera ever but at the same time, ive got to think if he is scum he do something else along the line that will make it much more clear than now.

Im not saying your heart is in the wrong place, but frankly there are other more interesting lines in play as we speak to discuss.

mandalorian2298 · Post by **mandalorian2298** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 4:55 pm

sheepofdumb wrote:So he could be talking about recruiting a cult. Just a thought.

Good one, but I am sticking with my vote for Aimless (who has gone awfully quiet since I threw my vote

(of course, he might be one of them 'sane' people who don't hang on the site all of the time

)).
If he proves to be a townie, Greece is a good fallback option.

unriggable · Post by **unriggable** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 4:55 pm

got tonkaed wrote:personally i think we are getting a bit of chickens running around with our heads cut off in this whole greecepwns witch hunt. It certainly is possible that he has some kind of power or scum role...but it was the first post of the entire game by a noob player. Every game on mafia scum and most games on here start with posts that have stupid stuff in the content. Relax. I suppose i run a small risk of being wrong and having greece orchestrate the most brillant scum opera ever but at the same time, ive got to think if he is scum he do something else along the line that will make it much more clear than now.

Im not saying your heart is in the wrong place, but frankly there are other more interesting lines in play as we speak to discuss.

I dunno, it just seems really strange to say 'my teeeeam'.

jnd94 · Post by **jnd94** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 4:56 pm

I dunno,I'd just put it in as a somewhat scummy comment. UNVOTE VOTE GREECE because i knowsome people feel awful when they lie (me to ane extent)so when they say 'thei team' thay are being vague for a reason

agreed. Greece is looking very guilty right now.

mandalorian2298 · Post by **mandalorian2298** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 4:57 pm

got tonkaed wrote:personally i think we are getting a bit of chickens running around with our heads cut off in this whole greecepwns witch hunt. It certainly is possible that he has some kind of power or scum role...but it was the first post of the entire game by a noob player. Every game on mafia scum and most games on here start with posts that have stupid stuff in the content. Relax. I suppose i run a small risk of being wrong and having greece orchestrate the most brillant scum opera ever but at the same time, ive got to think if he is scum he do something else along the line that will make it much more clear than now.

Im not saying your heart is in the wrong place, but frankly there are other more interesting lines in play as we speak to discuss.

For example? *closes his eyes and hopes for another spiesar*

pancakemix · Post by **pancakemix** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 4:58 pm

got tonkaed wrote:personally i think we are getting a bit of chickens running around with our heads cut off in this whole greecepwns witch hunt. It certainly is possible that he has some kind of power or scum role...but it was the first post of the entire game by a noob player. Every game on mafia scum and most games on here start with posts that have stupid stuff in the content. Relax. I suppose i run a small risk of being wrong and having greece orchestrate the most brillant scum opera ever but at the same time, ive got to think if he is scum he do something else along the line that will make it much more clear than now.

Im not saying your heart is in the wrong place, but frankly there are other more interesting lines in play as we speak to discuss.

The greatest scum opera was by Houssam in the ATHF game.

jnd94 · Post by **jnd94** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 5:00 pm

when will there be voting?

got tonkaed · Post by **got tonkaed** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 5:00 pm

mando you jokster...clearly im not going to come up with something silly if im chiding other people for whats going on. Frankly i think it would be much more insightful or interesting to discuss aimless or unriggable, perhaps even anarkist for the sure fact that he will put the investigation on someone else and probably open a new line of thinking than go after a first post statement.

got tonkaed · Post by **got tonkaed** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 5:01 pm

jnd you can vote whenever you feel like you should...just remember it has to be in bold, and if you want to change your vote you have to unvote before you do so.

Syzygy · Post by **Syzygy** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 5:01 pm

jnd94 wrote:when will there be voting?

Whenever you choose to vote, you vote. (As long as it's day.)

jnd94 · Post by **jnd94** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 5:02 pm

Aimless · Post by **Aimless** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 5:02 pm

mandalorian2298 wrote:Now, all of you who played with Aimless know that he is a guy who likes to think things through instead of just lynching the first poor unfortunate who gives him a cause (don't ask me why, it puzzles me as well ). However, this is the first time that I ever saw him activly defending a single player. First it was: don't vote sheep, he is making mistakes because it's his first game. But, now you are trying to twist my words AND make me feel guilty. Well, I have a newsflash for you: NEVER TRY TO MAKE MANDALORIAN FEEL GUILTAY, BECAUSE WE HAVE NO CONCIENCE!!!!!

Seriously guys, if Aimless turns out to be scumm we have a strong sense against sheep and we are half-way to victory.

Hmmm. I don't know if this is actually going to help my case, as he ultimately turned out to be scum, but I defended hecter in the Assassin Mafia game - although it was a conditional defense, based upon the fact that I simply thought there were better targets to go after first (and hecter's guilt was dependent upon a cop of unknown sanity).

And I defended Fircoal pretty heavily the first couple of days of the werewolves thread.

But, you actually make a pretty good point - I generally don't defend people. So, hmmm... how to answer this charge?

The point of my defense wasn't really to try to clear sheep's name, it was just to try to slow down what looked like it might become a speed lynch. He's the only player yet to have had multiple votes (unless I've miscounted), and about half of us have FOS'd him already. On day one, in a thread only a few hours old, I didn't care much for the implications, so I intentionally challenged those who seemed to be leading the charge against him - you and everywhere.

everywhere116 · Post by **everywhere116** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 5:03 pm

pancakemix wrote:
got tonkaed wrote:personally i think we are getting a bit of chickens running around with our heads cut off in this whole greecepwns witch hunt. It certainly is possible that he has some kind of power or scum role...but it was the first post of the entire game by a noob player. Every game on mafia scum and most games on here start with posts that have stupid stuff in the content. Relax. I suppose i run a small risk of being wrong and having greece orchestrate the most brillant scum opera ever but at the same time, ive got to think if he is scum he do something else along the line that will make it much more clear than now.

Im not saying your heart is in the wrong place, but frankly there are other more interesting lines in play as we speak to discuss.
The greatest scum opera was by Houssam in the ATHF game.

Now THAT was an opera.

Syzygy · Post by **Syzygy** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 5:03 pm

got tonkaed wrote:mando you jokster...clearly im not going to come up with something silly if im chiding other people for whats going on. Frankly i think it would be much more insightful or interesting to discuss aimless or unriggable, perhaps even anarkist for the sure fact that he will put the investigation on someone else and probably open a new line of thinking than go after a first post statement.

Hmm... Anarkist really tried to manipulate people in the werewolf mafia game, where he was mafia. The tactics there and here seems a bit similar to me.

mandalorian2298 · Post by **mandalorian2298** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 5:04 pm

got tonkaed wrote:mando you jokster...clearly im not going to come up with something silly if im chiding other people for whats going on. Frankly i think it would be much more insightful or interesting to discuss aimless or unriggable, perhaps even anarkist for the sure fact that he will put the investigation on someone else and probably open a new line of thinking than go after a first post statement.

You missunderstud. I was hoping Greece could provide us with a spiesar-like coup

Aimless · Post by **Aimless** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 5:07 pm

mandalorian2298 wrote:
sheepofdumb wrote:So he could be talking about recruiting a cult. Just a thought.
Good one, but I am sticking with my vote for Aimless (who has gone awfully quiet since I threw my vote (of course, he might be one of them 'sane' people who don't hang on the site all of the time )).
If he proves to be a townie, Greece is a good fallback option.

Bah. I leave to catch a bite to eat, and four pages of accusations against me show up.

unriggable · Post by **unriggable** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 5:08 pm

everywhere116 wrote:
pancakemix wrote:
got tonkaed wrote:personally i think we are getting a bit of chickens running around with our heads cut off in this whole greecepwns witch hunt. It certainly is possible that he has some kind of power or scum role...but it was the first post of the entire game by a noob player. Every game on mafia scum and most games on here start with posts that have stupid stuff in the content. Relax. I suppose i run a small risk of being wrong and having greece orchestrate the most brillant scum opera ever but at the same time, ive got to think if he is scum he do something else along the line that will make it much more clear than now.

Im not saying your heart is in the wrong place, but frankly there are other more interesting lines in play as we speak to discuss.
The greatest scum opera was by Houssam in the ATHF game.
Now THAT was an opera.

Why what happened?

got tonkaed · Post by **got tonkaed** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 5:08 pm

lol ah my apologies....

to respond to syngzy..about what i assume is a comparsion to me in that game.

I just think if we continue down that line we are very likely to move toward getting a lynch on greece...something that over the long run, unless greece turned out to be scum...but given the fact that hes new to mafia games, his defense probably wont be able to tell us either way whether or not he is scum. I think we are going through a long day 1 in terms of content and i think this is clearly a good thing. The more than we discuss everyone, the more defined the game becomes. Thats why we have to in my opinion at least continue to open up lines. And if we start placing votes on greece....especially considering there are 2 pretty inexperienced players here the more likely a quicker lynch and subsequently less developed game is reached.

mandalorian2298 · Post by **mandalorian2298** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 5:09 pm

Aimless wrote:
mandalorian2298 wrote:Now, all of you who played with Aimless know that he is a guy who likes to think things through instead of just lynching the first poor unfortunate who gives him a cause (don't ask me why, it puzzles me as well ). However, this is the first time that I ever saw him activly defending a single player. First it was: don't vote sheep, he is making mistakes because it's his first game. But, now you are trying to twist my words AND make me feel guilty. Well, I have a newsflash for you: NEVER TRY TO MAKE MANDALORIAN FEEL GUILTAY, BECAUSE WE HAVE NO CONCIENCE!!!!!

Seriously guys, if Aimless turns out to be scumm we have a strong sense against sheep and we are half-way to victory.
Hmmm. I don't know if this is actually going to help my case, as he ultimately turned out to be scum, but I defended hecter in the Assassin Mafia game - although it was a conditional defense, based upon the fact that I simply thought there were better targets to go after first (and hecter's guilt was dependent upon a cop of unknown sanity).

And I defended Fircoal pretty heavily the first couple of days of the werewolves thread.

But, you actually make a pretty good point - I generally don't defend people. So, hmmm... how to answer this charge?

The point of my defense wasn't really to try to clear sheep's name, it was just to try to slow down what looked like it might become a speed lynch. He's the only player yet to have had multiple votes (unless I've miscounted), and about half of us have FOS'd him already. On day one, in a thread only a few hours old, I didn't care much for the implications, so I intentionally challenged those who seemed to be leading the charge against him - you and everywhere.

The only reason I am not unvoting you lies in the fact that this post does more to proove your intelligence then your innocence.

Ok, I am also pig-headed.

pancakemix · Post by **pancakemix** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 5:09 pm

unriggable wrote:
everywhere116 wrote:
pancakemix wrote:
got tonkaed wrote:personally i think we are getting a bit of chickens running around with our heads cut off in this whole greecepwns witch hunt. It certainly is possible that he has some kind of power or scum role...but it was the first post of the entire game by a noob player. Every game on mafia scum and most games on here start with posts that have stupid stuff in the content. Relax. I suppose i run a small risk of being wrong and having greece orchestrate the most brillant scum opera ever but at the same time, ive got to think if he is scum he do something else along the line that will make it much more clear than now.

Im not saying your heart is in the wrong place, but frankly there are other more interesting lines in play as we speak to discuss.
The greatest scum opera was by Houssam in the ATHF game.
Now THAT was an opera.
Why what happened?

Houssam pulled a solo mafia mason and won the game alone.