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[SoN!c]

Dude, you are NOT on the chopping board. Stop saying what you are and aren't. It's the way you kept to the middle of the road or on the fence regarding Son!c's and my...ahm...interaction (for want of a better word). I even wrote it earlier. I wasn't even saying it now, but I mentioned it because Son!c kept banging on about how I was only concerned about him. You seem overly defensive, and you're not doing town any favours by saying whether or not you're a PR.

Let's say that scum has eight people to chose from for their nightkill. If one of them claims vanilla and another one claims not to be a PR, how much easier has it just been, then, for scum to hit an actual PR?

ONLY CLAIM WHEN L-2, PLEASE!

This sounds adressed to Charle only. Not to Kingm... while both claimed vanilla just right now

[SoN!c]

It just so sounds like one scum is frustrated by the other scum's play..

"Dude, you are NOT on the chopping board. Stop saying what you are and aren't."

[Devante]

I'm not seeing anything so far worth a vote so shall let this carry on. Would like to see some more from the quiet ones though, Traf in particular

[hjelp]

Interesting - is there an alignment that Ragian and SoN!c lines up in duty or lines up of duty ?
@ Ragian and Son!c - are you aligned ? in duty or of duty ?

[Ragian]

No, it's "dude" when I'm addressing one. You will see from two last lines that I'm after both of them

[TrafalgarLaw01]

So what's to do next?

A) Ragian has tunneled one player extremely hard (me) while completely ignoring five lurkers → that contradiction is alignment-indicative. Ragian has by far the clearest scum-tells: extreme D1 tunnel + ignoring lurkers while claiming he wants general discussion, matching scum meta in his Vincent Vega Vengeful win + early buddying up with Djfireside.

So Vote Ragian. Let's see the flip.. But Ragian is producing a lot of the content here. Ragian out is half the fun out.. And it is probably Town-on-Town. Don't wanna risk losing a Town Ragian on a D1 blinder. It's better to check Ragian out at night first.. But i still want him to answer my questions.

B) Riskmaster101 is a Pure lurk (0 posts) and was targeted by Kingm (That could have been a self-pressure fakeout)?

C) Strike wolf's scum read on Homer Jay (safe blending) is valid (low-volume veteran style with safe, middle-road posts) but untested..

D) There is subtle D1 buddying (e.g., early defends), shared evasion (e.g., ignoring lurkers together), or opportunistic wagons between the trio Ragian + Charle + Djfireside.. Especially Charle following his scum overlord Ragian while acting unconnected. That's safe scum play: Rag leads distraction while Charle rides wagons..

E) A silent Traf is a scummy Traf.

Vote Trafalgar01

Well I really don't think much can be achieved D1
Except for misslynching a townie or revealign unnecesary info to scum.
So no much to comment on D1

[Kingm]

So what's to do next?

A) Ragian has tunneled one player extremely hard (me) while completely ignoring five lurkers → that contradiction is alignment-indicative. Ragian has by far the clearest scum-tells: extreme D1 tunnel + ignoring lurkers while claiming he wants general discussion, matching scum meta in his Vincent Vega Vengeful win + early buddying up with Djfireside.

So Vote Ragian. Let's see the flip.. But Ragian is producing a lot of the content here. Ragian out is half the fun out.. And it is probably Town-on-Town. Don't wanna risk losing a Town Ragian on a D1 blinder. It's better to check Ragian out at night first.. But i still want him to answer my questions.

B) Riskmaster101 is a Pure lurk (0 posts) and was targeted by Kingm (That could have been a self-pressure fakeout)?

C) Strike wolf's scum read on Homer Jay (safe blending) is valid (low-volume veteran style with safe, middle-road posts) but untested..

D) There is subtle D1 buddying (e.g., early defends), shared evasion (e.g., ignoring lurkers together), or opportunistic wagons between the trio Ragian + Charle + Djfireside.. Especially Charle following his scum overlord Ragian while acting unconnected. That's safe scum play: Rag leads distraction while Charle rides wagons..

E) A silent Traf is a scummy Traf.

Vote Trafalgar01

Well I really don't think much can be achieved D1
Except for misslynching a townie or revealign unnecesary info to scum.
So no much to comment on D1

Ok, good enough for me I guess, UNVOTE

Let put the vote back on Riskmaster101, since if the old count is right, my vote now should still have him on 2 votes.

And lets make it clear, I DO NOT want us to just quick lynch him, I want to get him to L2, to force a role out of him, lets see if we are able to get some action on D1, or if its as useless as Traf says it is.

[Ragian]

I really don't like Traf's answer. Loads of things can be achieved D1 as mentioned ad nauseam. And yes, it's very likely that we lynch a townie D1, but it's sometimes a necessary evil in order to give intel for the long run. That said, I think KingM's answer is worse. In my humble opinion, KingM should've not satisfied himself with Traf's answer, but what is worse is his wanting to vote for riskmaster again at this stage. The timing is bad. We're running out of time and voting for a non-participant is a blind lynch, which teaches us nothing because it's also a free lynch, so in the long run it's more or less impossible to see who was on the lynch for which reasons. The final bit about that post is that he urges votes on riskmaster without committing himself. On top of that, KingM claimed without being on the chopping board. A weak claim to boot.

I have no issues with lynching KingM for the reasons stated above. Moreover, I think the amount of claims, softclaims, revelations, reveals, and strippings we've had D1 is enough. More is too much info to hand scum D1. I think we should lynch within the claimants (and my vote is where my mouth is), but people may want to no lynch - I just disagree with those tactics.