Greater China [Quenched] (thanks Widowmakers)

LoeNY · Post by **LoeNY** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 12:12 pm

Somehow, the mountain graphic makes W.Xizang and Xinjiang look elevated. Maybe you can have slopes on both sides.

unriggable · Post by **unriggable** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 1:25 pm

ericleung wrote:Somehow, the mountain graphic makes W.Xizang and Xinjiang look elevated. Maybe you can have slopes on both sides.

Aren't they supposed to be like that?

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 2:23 pm

unriggable wrote:
ericleung wrote:Somehow, the mountain graphic makes W.Xizang and Xinjiang look elevated. Maybe you can have slopes on both sides.
Aren't they supposed to be like that?

yup they are

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 3:53 am

update:

*changed the bridges
*changed the 000 = 2 to 2 = 000 in the legend

i need feedback

vakEirn79 · Post by **vakEirn79** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 4:13 am

This being the first time I've seen the map, that 2 = OOO part is rather vague. I'm pretty sure that it means I'd get a bonus of 2 for holding all 3 yin-yang territories, but the equals sign throws me off initially. If there's an established pattern or style to something, a break from that will always be confusing to the reader.

I haven't read any of the older replies yet, so I don't know if a discussion has been had about that one line. If so, I guess a consensus has been reached, and I won't argue for changing it (unless I've completely misunderstood that line, in which case I would ask for a change, because I can't think of anything other meaning for it relative to CC). I'm just pointing out that this initial uncertainty might exist for other players as well.

I really like the font and the style of the map. However, The emblem at top centre looks extremely pixelated compared to the smoothness of the rest of the map. The relatively thin lines in the emblem are probably what causes the aliasing to be so noticeable.

Also, I'm about 99% certain that it's "Jilin" and not "Jiling" (top right).

Skittles! · Post by **Skittles!** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 4:14 am

2's look like Z's.

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 4:28 am

vakEirn79 wrote:This being the first time I've seen the map, that 2 = OOO part is rather vague. I'm pretty sure that it means I'd get a bonus of 2 for holding all 3 yin-yang territories, but the equals sign throws me off initially. If there's an established pattern or style to something, a break from that will always be confusing to the reader.

I haven't read any of the older replies yet, so I don't know if a discussion has been had about that one line. If so, I guess a consensus has been reached, and I won't argue for changing it (unless I've completely misunderstood that line, in which case I would ask for a change, because I can't think of anything other meaning for it relative to CC). I'm just pointing out that this initial uncertainty might exist for other players as well.

I really like the font and the style of the map. However, The emblem at top centre looks extremely pixelated compared to the smoothness of the rest of the map. The relatively thin lines in the emblem are probably what causes the aliasing to be so noticeable.

Also, I'm about 99% certain that it's "Jilin" and not "Jiling" (top right).

can you explain the first and second part of your post, i am not english so i don't understand what you did say there

i will change the coat of arms

you are right its jilin i will change it

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 4:29 am

Skittles! wrote:2's look like Z's.

i know... i will look after that

vakEirn79 · Post by **vakEirn79** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 4:54 am

Wisse wrote:
vakEirn79 wrote:This being the first time I've seen the map, that 2 = OOO part is rather vague. I'm pretty sure that it means I'd get a bonus of 2 for holding all 3 yin-yang territories, but the equals sign throws me off initially. If there's an established pattern or style to something, a break from that will always be confusing to the reader.

I haven't read any of the older replies yet, so I don't know if a discussion has been had about that one line. If so, I guess a consensus has been reached, and I won't argue for changing it (unless I've completely misunderstood that line, in which case I would ask for a change, because I can't think of anything other meaning for it relative to CC). I'm just pointing out that this initial uncertainty might exist for other players as well.

I really like the font and the style of the map. However, The emblem at top centre looks extremely pixelated compared to the smoothness of the rest of the map. The relatively thin lines in the emblem are probably what causes the aliasing to be so noticeable.

Also, I'm about 99% certain that it's "Jilin" and not "Jiling" (top right).
can you explain the first and second part of your post, i am not english so i don't understand what you did say there

Sorry, I'll try to word it better:

First of all, I want to make sure that I am correct in interpreting "2 = OOO" to mean I get 2 armies for holding those 3 territories?

The legend is set up as a list of "# Region" lines (i.e. 2 Beijing). The last line, however, uses a different style, by adding that equals sign. Mentally, a reader always automatically forms a set of expectations. In this case, he would expect that any line which looked like "# Region" indicates an army bonus. At the same time, he would expect that anything in a different format to mean something different.

Basically, I'm saying that it is not immediately clear that "2 = OOO" means the same thing as "2 Beijing" in the legend. The rest of it is just an explanation of why.

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 4:56 am

vakEirn79 wrote:
Wisse wrote:
vakEirn79 wrote:This being the first time I've seen the map, that 2 = OOO part is rather vague. I'm pretty sure that it means I'd get a bonus of 2 for holding all 3 yin-yang territories, but the equals sign throws me off initially. If there's an established pattern or style to something, a break from that will always be confusing to the reader.

I haven't read any of the older replies yet, so I don't know if a discussion has been had about that one line. If so, I guess a consensus has been reached, and I won't argue for changing it (unless I've completely misunderstood that line, in which case I would ask for a change, because I can't think of anything other meaning for it relative to CC). I'm just pointing out that this initial uncertainty might exist for other players as well.

I really like the font and the style of the map. However, The emblem at top centre looks extremely pixelated compared to the smoothness of the rest of the map. The relatively thin lines in the emblem are probably what causes the aliasing to be so noticeable.

Also, I'm about 99% certain that it's "Jilin" and not "Jiling" (top right).
can you explain the first and second part of your post, i am not english so i don't understand what you did say there
Sorry, I'll try to word it better:

First of all, I want to make sure that I am correct in interpreting "2 = OOO" to mean I get 2 armies for holding those 3 territories?

The legend is set up as a list of "# Region" lines (i.e. 2 Beijing). The last line, however, uses a different style, by adding that equals sign. Mentally, a reader always automatically forms a set of expectations. In this case, he would expect that any line which looked like "# Region" indicates an army bonus. At the same time, he would expect that anything in a different format to mean something different.

Basically, I'm saying that it is not immediately clear that "2 = OOO" means the same thing as "2 Beijing" in the legend. The rest of it is just an explanation of why.

ok i will change that (yes you get 2 armys for those tree capitals

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Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 5:06 am

update:

changed coat of arms
changed the 2 = 000 to 2 000 in legend
changed the 2 so it looks more like a 2 (i will change the color in the next update)

KEYOGI · Post by **KEYOGI** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 5:09 am

There's so much dead territory, it all feels kind of empty. How about some images in there to liven it up a bit?

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 5:11 am

KEYOGI wrote:There's so much dead territory, it all feels kind of empty. How about some images in there to liven it up a bit?

sorry but i don't like pictures in dead territory's.
i tried to fill it up as much as posible with a coat of arm and the flag and the legend and i like the dead zone now

KEYOGI · Post by **KEYOGI** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 5:21 am

Wisse wrote:sorry but i don't like pictures in dead territory's.
i tried to fill it up as much as posible with a coat of arm and the flag and the legend and i like the dead zone now

Fair enough. What if you perhaps took the title out of the flag and put it above the coat of arms which you could move down a little?

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 5:24 am

KEYOGI wrote:
Wisse wrote:sorry but i don't like pictures in dead territory's.
i tried to fill it up as much as posible with a coat of arm and the flag and the legend and i like the dead zone now
Fair enough. What if you perhaps took the title out of the flag and put it above the coat of arms which you could move down a little?

i can try that

i am now bussy with the xml

Ruben Cassar · Post by **Ruben Cassar** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 5:24 am

KEYOGI wrote:
Wisse wrote:sorry but i don't like pictures in dead territory's.
i tried to fill it up as much as posible with a coat of arm and the flag and the legend and i like the dead zone now
Fair enough. What if you perhaps took the title out of the flag and put it above the coat of arms which you could move down a little?

Yes I like the way that sounds. Try it out Wisse.

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 5:26 am

i don't like this map because it's visually unballanced.

draw an imaginary vertical line in the middle of the map. on the left you get ~5 territories and on the right you get 23. it's not anybody's fault this is china's geography but i have a problem with this.

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 5:35 am

DiM wrote:i don't like this map because it's visually unballanced.

draw an imaginary vertical line in the middle of the map. on the left you get ~5 territories and on the right you get 23. it's not anybody's fault this is china's geography but i have a problem with this.

nothing i can do about, sorry

and can someone tell me how much i need to add to the xml x and y cordinates?

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 6:12 am

if i remember correctly i added 16 to the large version on the y scale.

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:03 am

DiM wrote:if i remember correctly i added 16 to the large version on the y scale.

ok if somone knows the other one, i can complete the xml
and mayby we need to put this in the sticky

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:13 am

on the x scale i added nothing. but you can do like i did. put the coords for large and small for one territory then test them. then tweak until they're good. then see how much you added and do the rest properly.

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:29 am

DiM wrote:on the x scale i added nothing. but you can do like i did. put the coords for large and small for one territory then test them. then tweak until they're good. then see how much you added and do the rest properly.

ok i do that

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 8:29 am

i am now ready with the xml till for every country in Lanzhou and chengdu for the large xml file

i am now going to my work see ya tommorw or this evenenig

Ruben Cassar · Post by **Ruben Cassar** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 9:34 am

Wisse wrote:i am now ready with the xml till for every country in Lanzhou and chengdu for the large xml file

i am now going to my work see ya tommorw or this evenenig

You work Wisse?

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 3:43 pm

Ruben Cassar wrote:
Wisse wrote:i am now ready with the xml till for every country in Lanzhou and chengdu for the large xml file

i am now going to my work see ya tommorw or this evenenig
You work Wisse?

yup i work on my 16th

i get €4 per hour