t-o-m

[hecter]

This doesn't seem to be going anywhere much, and it's turning into a spam/bait fest, so either lets have an actual discussion on t-o-m's ban (really don't know what that would look like, he clearly broke the rules on numerous times, had numerous warnings and numerous prior bans and chances) or it will get locked.

You guys shouldn't be doing ANYTHING in terms of locking threads or banning people for spam until you define it! How many times must we ask?

Why is it that everybody is being so anal when it comes to following some simple unwritten rules? It's like the lot of you chucked common sense out of the window when the internet came around.

Unwritten rules are never simple. It seems that everybody has a different interpretation of what spam is and so a thread was created to ask that simple question. This thread has been locked and moved twice, been posted in by a mod multiple times, and the question has yet to receive an answer.

[Frop]

This doesn't seem to be going anywhere much, and it's turning into a spam/bait fest, so either lets have an actual discussion on t-o-m's ban (really don't know what that would look like, he clearly broke the rules on numerous times, had numerous warnings and numerous prior bans and chances) or it will get locked.

You guys shouldn't be doing ANYTHING in terms of locking threads or banning people for spam until you define it! How many times must we ask?

Why is it that everybody is being so anal when it comes to following some simple unwritten rules? It's like the lot of you chucked common sense out of the window when the internet came around.

Unwritten rules are never simple. It seems that everybody has a different interpretation of what spam is and so a thread was created to ask that simple question. This thread has been locked and moved twice, been posted in by a mod multiple times, and the question has yet to receive an answer.

You fail to realize that t-o-m's ban is the simple answer to your simple question.

[InkL0sed]

Where is the spam since tom's last warning then?

[lancehoch]

tom was only banned for 3 days once and now its permanent..wheres the middle ground?

t-o-m has received four forum bans previously. Ask him how long those bans were for, because if he says it was only a maximum of three days, he is lying to you.

[Frop]

Where is the spam since tom's last warning then?

Just a few of his last posts that might have contributed to the fact.

Subject: the longest thread, thread - Occasionally NSFW

IM ON 2000

-this spot is reserved so one other person cant come on page 2000 -

-this spot is reserved so one other person cant come on page 2000 -

Same with this...succazz!

Post a reply
29999 posts • Page 2000 of 2000

yay me!!!

30000

[hulmey]

tom was only banned for 3 days once and now its permanent..wheres the middle ground?

t-o-m has received four forum bans previously. Ask him how long those bans were for, because if he says it was only a maximum of three days, he is lying to you.

oh we got a smart arse, but im wrong it was 2 forum bans and 2 chat bans ( 3 day and 1 week). So. you got t wrong to . And everyone knows about it before he has even said anything, so there's no need for the stupid comment about lying. Again i put the question to the mods, wheres the middle ground?

[Optimus Prime]

tom was only banned for 3 days once and now its permanent..wheres the middle ground?

t-o-m has received four forum bans previously. Ask him how long those bans were for, because if he says it was only a maximum of three days, he is lying to you.

oh we got a smart arse, but im wrong it was 2 forum bans and 2 chat bans ( 3 day and 1 week). So. you got t wrong to . And everyone knows about it before he has even said anything, so there's no need for the stupid comment about lying. Again i put the question to the mods, wheres the middle ground?

Nope, lancehoch was right. He had 4 different forum bans prior to his perma-banning. Sorry, hulmey. He had a 24 hour, 2 separate 3 day bans, and a 2 week ban. And, if we really want to get specific, he has 3 separate Chat Bans, not just 2.

[InkL0sed]

Where is the spam since tom's last warning then?

Just a few of his last posts that might have contributed to the fact.

Subject: the longest thread, thread - Occasionally NSFW

IM ON 2000

-this spot is reserved so one other person cant come on page 2000 -

-this spot is reserved so one other person cant come on page 2000 -

Same with this...succazz!

Post a reply
29999 posts • Page 2000 of 2000

yay me!!!

30000

That thread is made for spam.

Maybe we should warn everybody who's ever posted in that thread...?

[hulmey]

Where is the spam since tom's last warning then?

Just a few of his last posts that might have contributed to the fact.

Subject: the longest thread, thread - Occasionally NSFW

IM ON 2000

-this spot is reserved so one other person cant come on page 2000 -

-this spot is reserved so one other person cant come on page 2000 -

Same with this...succazz!

Post a reply
29999 posts • Page 2000 of 2000

yay me!!!

30000

That thread is made for spam.

Maybe we should warn everybody who's ever posted in that thread...?

[hecter]

This doesn't seem to be going anywhere much, and it's turning into a spam/bait fest, so either lets have an actual discussion on t-o-m's ban (really don't know what that would look like, he clearly broke the rules on numerous times, had numerous warnings and numerous prior bans and chances) or it will get locked.

You guys shouldn't be doing ANYTHING in terms of locking threads or banning people for spam until you define it! How many times must we ask?

Why is it that everybody is being so anal when it comes to following some simple unwritten rules? It's like the lot of you chucked common sense out of the window when the internet came around.

Unwritten rules are never simple. It seems that everybody has a different interpretation of what spam is and so a thread was created to ask that simple question. This thread has been locked and moved twice, been posted in by a mod multiple times, and the question has yet to receive an answer.

You fail to realize that t-o-m's ban is the simple answer to your simple question.

So him telling us about a really cool Firefox addon and the creation of a map is spam? Oh boy, lots of people are in trouble now!

[hulmey]

tom was only banned for 3 days once and now its permanent..wheres the middle ground?

t-o-m has received four forum bans previously. Ask him how long those bans were for, because if he says it was only a maximum of three days, he is lying to you.

oh we got a smart arse, but im wrong it was 2 forum bans and 2 chat bans ( 3 day and 1 week). So. you got t wrong to . And everyone knows about it before he has even said anything, so there's no need for the stupid comment about lying. Again i put the question to the mods, wheres the middle ground?

Nope, lancehoch was right. He had 4 different forum bans prior to his perma-banning. Sorry, hulmey. He had a 24 hour, 2 separate 3 day bans, and a 2 week ban. And, if we really want to get specific, he has 3 separate Chat Bans, not just 2.

i stand corrected then... Again i put the question to the mods, wheres the middle ground? Ban him for 6 months or a year but permanent is kind of stupid!

[AndyDufresne]

Tom has had a plethora of chances...heck I even warned him before he started to get even more spammy, that I wanted to see him get his map Quenched! He knew it sooner or later it would all catch up with him, and it did.

And hulmey, the middle ground? Don't go spamming.


--Andy

[spiesr]

Having the ban being only a year would not have stopped all these people from complaining about it...

[hulmey]

Tom has had a plethora of chances...heck I even warned him before he started to get even more spammy, that I wanted to see him get his map Quenched! He knew it sooner or later it would all catch up with him, and it did.

And hulmey, the middle ground? Don't go spamming.


--Andy

Coool....you never fail to amaze me Andy! I'd have tom's spam i think

[Frop]

That thread is made for spam.

Maybe we should warn everybody who's ever posted in that thread...?

A thread made for spam? Are you able to spot the irony in your own statement or is there actually no end to your perpetual misconception? No wonder you're asking why t-o-m got banned, apparently you're sharing the same single braincell.

[hulmey]

That thread is made for spam.

Maybe we should warn everybody who's ever posted in that thread...?

A thread made for spam? Are you able to spot the irony in your own statement or is there actually no end to your perpetual misconception? No wonder you're asking why t-o-m got banned, apparently you're sharing the same single braincell.

frop your a douche

[hecter]

You are a douche... You're saying things far worse than I ever saw t-o-m say, so I'd be careful if I were you... A permaban may be coming your way!

[Frop]

You are a douche... You're saying things far worse than I ever saw t-o-m say, so I'd be careful if I were you... A permaban may be coming your way!

'Far worse' as in 'literate'? I apologize that stuff like 'perpetual misconception' may sound scary, but I'm actually not cursing (unlike calling people a douche).

[hecter]

You are a douche... You're saying things far worse than I ever saw t-o-m say, so I'd be careful if I were you... A permaban may be coming your way!

'Far worse' as in 'literate'? I apologize that stuff like 'perpetual misconception' may sound scary, but I'm actually not cursing (unlike calling people a douche).

I do believe that you're flaming as well as baiting here. Your hypocrisy is quite apparent. This raises the question: how far till a lock? The mods here love overreacting and exercising their lock powers rather than, y'know, doing a decent job and warning the select few violators, myself included. So, how many posts will we get in till a lock?

I still contend that Frop's a douche.

[The Fuzzy Pengui]

This raises the question: how far till a lock?

Hmm....right about now.

The mods here love overreacting and exercising their lock powers rather than, y'know, doing a decent job and warning the select few violators, myself included.

Oh no, that's coming, too...don't worry...we can do both

So, how many posts will we get in till a lock?

Not many more....in fact, probably none.

--TFP

[Twill]

Clearly this thread wasn't going anywhere except into a mud slinging contest.

Lets talk about middle ground and what you're all asking for here:

Where's the middle ground?

Lets look at the facts here, not what t-o-m's memory may be recollecting
T-o-m had a 2 week forum ban in august for trolling, quickly followed by 2 chat bans.
Normally after a 2 week, we go to a month and then to a permanent forum ban.
However, because of t-o-m's contributions we did give him the middle ground, instead of the 1 month ban, he was formally warned twice within the last month and told in no uncertain terms that if he kept doing what he was doing, he'd see his forum privs revoked.

So, where was the middle ground? It was in those 2 formal warnings and the numerous PM exchanges. Don't try to paint tom as a martyr or like this was a surprise, he had his chances, he was given the middle ground. Hell, he was given better than middle ground. The kid had more warnings than almost anyone else on the site. He had his chances and he blew them.


Why not be lenient on him and give him a 6 month ban, he'd surely learn his lesson with one more warning

He'd learn his lesson? What makes everyone so sure of that? His first official warning was 4 and a half months ago. That means he averaged a formal disciplinary action every week and a half. Every week and a half. That's a pretty bad track record there. If you aren't learning your lesson when you're being warned by a mod or admin that you're breaking one rule or another every week and a half, and fully one fifth of that time (25 days - almost a month) was spent on one ban or another, then what chance is there that he's going to learn his lesson this time when he didn't learn them any other?

And tell me - which part of

Push it if you want and see where it goes, but the next time it goes anywhere, it's going away forever with no buy back, no 27th chances and no begging.

doesn't sound serious to you?

If he didn't believe that was serious, that is his mistake.

Why didn't you try to help him?

I did. On several occasions, both in posts and in PMs, I attempted to point out where he could improve his posting style, to which his latest, and generally emblematic, response was

Whatever you say chump

Why bother when someone isn't even interested in listening?

This conversation isn't going anywhere, if you can't see why tom was banned, then you can drop me a PM and we can talk about where you might need to personally change your posting style, but this thread has become nothing more than a spitting contest between two camps and isn't productive.

Twill

(p.s. t-o-m, sorry it came to this, I did warn you this was coming. I see you're now "stalking twill" - it will only get your account banned permanently, which would really be a shame)