THOTA vs. TSM (41-39) of 80 -- THOTA Prevails! [FINAL]

[jiminski]

It is pretty obvious, that they are just trying to piss you off, guys.

Because they cannot win any other way.

Dont let them get under your skin.

And all they (starting with a-hole First) can F-U-C-K O-F-F!

Smile

shhhh Andrew, we are creating a wall of frivolity to protect us all!

[jiminski]

now where were we? .. ahh yeas!

[jiminski]

i think you leftit deliberately

d'you know i can't even remember ... i have a terrible mammary for such things!

[clapper011]

It is pretty obvious, that they are just trying to piss you off, guys.

Because they cannot win any other way.

Dont let them get under your skin.

And all they (starting with a-hole First) can F-U-C-K O-F-F!

Smile

excuse me?

[khazalid]

andrew has left, he's just checking back to see how the games are going.

and adding a bit more fuel to the fire...

at a distance it's the perfect temperature

[kratos644]

andrew has left, he's just checking back to see how the games are going.

and adding a bit more fuel to the fire...

at a distance it's the perfect temperature

Darn that sly dog. I'll get him back for it some day

[jiminski]

heheh yeap, someone else's house on fire is a comfort on a frosty night!

[comic boy]

Seriously Monkeys its a bit pathetic stalling games so you can get a bit of last minute practice or free up a slot ,nobody is more competitive than me but its only a game, some people need to get a life

[kratos644]

Seriously Monkeys its a bit pathetic stalling games so you can get a bit of last minute practice or free up a slot ,nobody is more competitive than me but its only a game, some people need to get a life

Comic shh

[Incandenza]

You know, I enjoy spirited trash-talk as much as the next highly-competitive person. But there's a line. On this side of the line is "you guys suck, we're gonna win!" On the far side of the line is "you guys suck, and you're cheating." First clearly crossed that line, and to be honest I have yet to see any monki come in here and refute his claims.

So let's do some unpacking, shall we? This should be fun.

no snap shot, Creating games that were beta before the war started. Excuses dw is not playing etc etc.....

Item the first: no snap shot

The 12-hour fog-game rule was cooked up by me and seul in order to ensure that both teams in a fog game got a look at the map (and a snapshot if possible) before anyone had taken their turn. The general idea was that it was unfair for a player to join the game and take their turn before the other team had gotten a look, usually because they weren't online at the time.

However, both lucky and clapper had ample opportunity to see the map during that 12-hour period. The Arms Race game was initialized at 10:07:19 PST on 2/16. dbz took his turn at 20:31:04. Boy, that sure looks shady, right?

Oh, wait, what's this here?
Game 6459436 2010-02-16 18:09:54 - luckywar received 1 troops for holding 3-cluster F1
Game 6464424 2010-02-16 15:36:32 - clapper011 received 3 troops for 11 regions

So you mean to tell me that neither lucky nor clapper could take 5 seconds to jump into the game and take a snapshot? If that's the case, that is their fault, not ours. The 12-hour rule was conceived as a courtesy, not an iron-clad rule that no fog game could start until 12 hours after initialization. Blitz and dbz gave them ample (and apparently un-utilized) opportunity to see the map, then dbz took his turn given the exigencies of real life. That sure doesn't sound like cheating to me.

Item the second: Creating games that were beta before the war started

So? "No beta maps" is the rule, not "no maps that aren't out of beta before the challenge starts." The reason most challenges do not include beta maps is not that they're new, or complicated, it's because they are subject to in-game gameplay changes while the map is tweaked. Once a map is out of beta, it's pretty much considered "frozen", and thus fair game. More to the point, Third Crusade has been available for play since early November.

What's even funnier is that you guys have delayed joining the game so you could play a few quick pickup games and get up to speed: Game 6476161 Game 6478121 Game 6476711 Game 6476158. Nothing wrong with that, per se, though we'd be obliged if you'd get around to joining our other games on maps that have been available for a year or more (I'm really curious why an elite clan seems to be having so much difficulty finding people to play a D-Day dubs).

Now, you guys may have assumed that "no beta maps" in fact meant "no maps that aren't out of beta before the challenge starts." That was a dangerous and erroneous assumption to make. That's something that could have been cleared up with a PM, but you kept safe in your assumptions and are now paying the price. But, of course, you're accusing us of cheating, when it's pretty much your own fault for not thinking ahead, 'cause I tell you what, we were ready for you guys if you'd throw a Third Crusade or WWII Poland game at us.

Item the third: Excuses dw is not playing

Well, at least you're not accusing us of cheating with this bit, but you're equally in error. If a horseman has said anything along these lines in anything but in the most ironic of manners, it would be news to me.

Summation:

firstholliday, member of The Spanking Monkeys, has openly accused my clan of cheating in a challenge. No other monki has refuted those claims, which were made in error and can in fact be ascribed as mistakes to be laid squarely at the feet of the monkis themselves.

I think an apology from first is in order. I doubt that will happen. But I wouldn't mind a monki coming in here (or even in a PM) saying that first does not speak for the clan, that his accusations of cheating are his and his alone, and that the Spanking Monkeys 100% refute those accusations.

I am not a cheater. My clanmates are not cheaters. The monkis are not cheaters. And yet first has publicly said that THOTA are cheaters. This isn't trash-talk, it's something else, something way worse, and this shit needs to stop.

And before this turns into a he-said she-daid wankathon, I don't give a sweet f*ck what anyone else has said. This hasn't been the first time that a monki has accused us of cheating, but if you guys actually value your reputation, it should be the last.

[jiminski]

i'll get in to this later, i really couldn't be arsed until now and don't have the serious time to deal with this serious business!
.. "you accused me of cheating!" "no you accused me of cheating twice!".. "well if you accuse him of cheating.. well that's as good as calling my sister a whore and if you call my sister a whore then you are calling my whole family a whore .. and if you are calling my whole family a whore then you are calling the United States of America a whore.. and quite frankly my friend, no one is going to take a shit on the star spangled banner! not on my watch ya East Coast Liberal Piss-ant!!!!!!!!"

heheh come on all of you, fucking pull your heads in and get some context... also realise what this bad blood is all about.. then get a little more context again!



love,

Jim


now can we get back to the serious business at hand?

[firstholliday]

[clapper011]

ffs! this is all some pretty big bullshit! I am fed up with all the accusations, and pettiness. grow the f*ck up almost everyone! God oh and incan.. sorry for being too STUPID to know how to properly take a god damn stupid screen shot.. K?. now.. can everyone just shut the hell up already and get these games over with? I am really sick of this challenge and have seen a side of all of you that brings a really bitter taste to my mouth. (yes I am including myself in this as I see myself react to this foolishness when normally it wouldnt bother me!)

good day and best of luck to those who deserve it.

clappy

[freakns]

f*ck

clappy said f*ck, clappy said f*ck!

im horny...

[Blitzaholic]

Mod Edit for subtle, yet visible nipple.

"mod edtit" ...get it!?

sneaky but no need to see the nipple, I pity those who lack imagination, whats more sexy, woman completely naked or wearing sexy clothes

jimbo has some eloquent taste in female species.

[laddida]

alright!!! more drama!

hurry up u snails and join our games, u just aint taking this shit serious enough damnit!

relax on the joining games inpatient bs i remember some games you guys didnt join of ours till 5 or 6 days after we gave them out one example is Game 5935380 most games started on the 18th this one the 23rd so you guys can wait a week if we choose to make you wait a week to start a game.

[skillfull]

What's even funnier is that you guys have delayed joining the game so you could play a few quick pickup games and get up to speed: Game 6476161 Game 6478121 Game 6476711 Game 6476158. Nothing wrong with that, per se, though we'd be obliged if you'd get around to joining our other games on maps that have been available for a year or more (I'm really curious why an elite clan seems to be having so much difficulty finding people to play a D-Day dubs).

DO not make me say things that I do not want to say Inca.
What is your problem? We have some free time to fill the games, isnt it right?
We are free to do whatever we want to do and please delete that sentence about third crusade or you will be the first person on my foe list.
About D-Day, -that is the funniest you said- we delayed to fill it cause we had so many monkis for that game so we had to decide which team should take that game. As you guess now, we are an elite clan and you guessed wrong at first by saying that we couldnt find people for that game.

[laddida]

Game 5935845 another example of a game not starting right away i dont even remember which day we gave the games out this maybe been 4 or 5 days out from games were givin an easy map to fill as well


i will also add its been what 2 and half days since we got ur games? and we gave you our games before you gave us yours.

[Blitzaholic]

3rd crusade is not beta no more.

[jammyjames]

Blimey this is such a close one, good luck in the final 20 to both clans...

[jalen45]

inca - are you serious with that last post? really? i mean cmon, no really????????????? wow. i am really glad you wasted 15-20 minutes of your life to research that info and then type it out. get a fucking life dude.

you guys come up with a rule, then break it, and then blame us for not acting quick enough
you guys took 4-5 days to join our games at least twice in this challenge, then we take 2.5 days to decide on a few games and it gets brought up in your analysis
we arent elite enough to have 2 people to join D-day? surprised you didnt map rank us for the details during your research, but go ahead maybe youll realize how dumb your statement really was.
i make a comment about beating you guys 3 times on conquerman, and in the same post also said i was joking, but you guys take it offensively.


like i said, get a life and move on. quit whining.

[jiminski]

Blimey this is such a close one, good luck in the final 20 to both clans...

Much obliged jammy!

[Blitzaholic]

I will say this, jalen is a stud on conquerman, I am a bit marveled. I knew he was good, but, dam, he is real good.

[Blitzaholic]

Blimey this is such a close one, good luck in the final 20 to both clans...

thank you james

how about jamison? anyone call you that?

[Fruitcake]

This thread is seriously good spectator sport.