Top Guns: WINNERS:Commander62890, Ljex, Pimphawks70, Dustine
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Re: Top Guns {Pre-Final debate}
I got only 4 slots since I am a freemium, about to finish 3 games, so 3 game set would suit me better
Re: Top Guns {Pre-Final debate}
billy wants a 3 set as well, so if both teams are OK with that i am fine, he also wanted to use 3 random maps OF THE MAPS WE ALREADY USED IN THIS TOURNEY.. possible i could pick 1 from each of the past 3 rounds if both teams are OK with that???????????????????????????????? so i can get this GOING!Dustine wrote:I got only 4 slots since I am a freemium, about to finish 3 games, so 3 game set would suit me better

- Commander62890
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Re: Top Guns {Pre-Final debate}
All right, maybe this can appease both sides:
Get a neutral party to input the 9 maps into random.org and come to you with the 3 maps.
This way, Billy gets to play on his noob maps while Ljex can't accuse you of choosing Billy's best 3 maps out of the 9.
Eh?
Get a neutral party to input the 9 maps into random.org and come to you with the 3 maps.
This way, Billy gets to play on his noob maps while Ljex can't accuse you of choosing Billy's best 3 maps out of the 9.
Eh?
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billy07
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Re: Top Guns {Pre-Final debate}
jesus fucking christ man. all those maps have no wierd bonuses or anything like that. ljex knows i play no feudal or aor style maps and would've picked two of those types of maps. why else does he want to change the format of the whole tourney for the final?Commander62890 wrote:All right, maybe this can appease both sides:
Get a neutral party to input the 9 maps into random.org and come to you with the 3 maps.
This way, Billy gets to play on his noob maps while Ljex can't accuse you of choosing Billy's best 3 maps out of the 9.
Eh?
i look forward to kicking your arses, and we will!!
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Re: Top Guns {Pre-Final debate}
I don't know, but I do know that my worst maps are Feudal and the AoRs.billy07 wrote: ljex knows i play no feudal or aor style maps and would've picked two of those types of maps. why else does he want to change the format of the whole tourney for the final?
We probably would've picked Supermax and Rail Europe or something like that.
Hmm, maybe not Supermax for quads... not sure, but one of them would definitely have been Rail Europe.
Maybe Cricket.
Re: Top Guns {Pre-Final debate}
Commander62890 wrote:All right, maybe this can appease both sides:
Get a neutral party to input the 9 maps into random.org and come to you with the 3 maps.
This way, Billy gets to play on his noob maps while Ljex can't accuse you of choosing Billy's best 3 maps out of the 9.
Eh?
Ill do this, found the first person in Live Chat and they are randomizing now.
-griff

Re: Top Guns {Pre-Final debate}
Here is the maps by request....
There were 9 items in your list. Here they are in random order:
1. USA Great Lakes
2. Chinese Checkers
3. Soviet Union
4. First Nations of America
5. Sydney Metro
6. Charleston
7. WWII Gazala
8. Coral Cairns Coast Round
9. North America
And done 3 at a time by rounds:
1. First Nations of America
2. Charleston
3. Coral Cairns Coast Round
1. North America
2. Chinese Checkers
3. Sydney Metro
1. Soviet Union
2. WWII Gazala
3. USA Great Lakes
There were 9 items in your list. Here they are in random order:
1. USA Great Lakes
2. Chinese Checkers
3. Soviet Union
4. First Nations of America
5. Sydney Metro
6. Charleston
7. WWII Gazala
8. Coral Cairns Coast Round
9. North America
And done 3 at a time by rounds:
1. First Nations of America
2. Charleston
3. Coral Cairns Coast Round
1. North America
2. Chinese Checkers
3. Sydney Metro
1. Soviet Union
2. WWII Gazala
3. USA Great Lakes
Last edited by Bruceswar on Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:42 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Top Guns {Pre-Final debate}
yes redo those 3 maps at a time, for each round so we can get 1 map from each round.. more fair i think. NOT LIKE IT MATTERS TO ME!Bruceswar wrote:Here is the maps by request....
There were 9 items in your list. Here they are in random order:
1. USA Great Lakes
2. Chinese Checkers
3. Soviet Union
4. First Nations of America
5. Sydney Metro
6. Charleston
7. WWII Gazala
8. Coral Cairns Coast Round
9. North America

Re: Top Guns {Pre-Final debate}
Bruceswar wrote:Here is the maps by request....
And done 3 at a time by rounds:
1. First Nations of America
2. Charleston
3. Coral Cairns Coast Round
1. North America
2. Chinese Checkers
3. Sydney Metro
1. Soviet Union
2. WWII Gazala
3. USA Great Lakes

Re: Top Guns {Pre-Final debate}
OK so this is it,grifftron wrote:Bruceswar wrote:Here is the maps by request....
And done 3 at a time by rounds:
1. First Nations of America
2. Charleston
3. Coral Cairns Coast Round
1. North America
2. Chinese Checkers
3. Sydney Metro
1. Soviet Union
2. WWII Gazala
3. USA Great Lakes
1.First Nations of America
2.North America
3.Soviet Union
FINALS! NO crying please! if you don't accept these invites i will not finish this tourney.
-griff

Re: Top Guns {Pre-Final debate}
You would think that i was doing this to be able to pick maps that you are not good at, whats really funny is that neither of the maps you list can even be played quads...but thanks for making a logical argument. Beyond that care to tell me why you dont think you would gain an advantage from picking your home maps?billy07 wrote:jesus fucking christ man. all those maps have no wierd bonuses or anything like that. ljex knows i play no feudal or aor style maps and would've picked two of those types of maps. why else does he want to change the format of the whole tourney for the final?Commander62890 wrote:All right, maybe this can appease both sides:
Get a neutral party to input the 9 maps into random.org and come to you with the 3 maps.
This way, Billy gets to play on his noob maps while Ljex can't accuse you of choosing Billy's best 3 maps out of the 9.
Eh?
i look forward to kicking your arses, and we will!!
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billy07
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Re: Top Guns {Pre-Final debate}
i said style of maps and you can play quads on certain maps with that type of gameplay. the maps i play are all risk orientated, no advantage is gained by me naming them. if you weren't a below average team player you'd realise that!!ljex wrote:You would think that i was doing this to be able to pick maps that you are not good at, whats really funny is that neither of the maps you list can even be played quads...but thanks for making a logical argument. Beyond that care to tell me why you dont think you would gain an advantage from picking your home maps?billy07 wrote:jesus fucking christ man. all those maps have no wierd bonuses or anything like that. ljex knows i play no feudal or aor style maps and would've picked two of those types of maps. why else does he want to change the format of the whole tourney for the final?Commander62890 wrote:All right, maybe this can appease both sides:
Get a neutral party to input the 9 maps into random.org and come to you with the 3 maps.
This way, Billy gets to play on his noob maps while Ljex can't accuse you of choosing Billy's best 3 maps out of the 9.
Eh?
i look forward to kicking your arses, and we will!!
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Re: Top Guns {final}
so I am taking it that with a bit of disagreement, we went from best of 5 to best of 9? thanks for the notice.
Re: Top Guns {final}
billy just join the games, its best of 3, i sent out the 3 games, join them, i am not making them again, you guys all need to stop crying, join the games and get this tourney over with geez.
-griff
-griff

Re: Top Guns {Pre-Final debate}
Words cant begin to describe how wrong that statement is. For one i would contend that i am a better team player than you are but that is at least debatable. If i was so bad at team games why would you have invited me to join MM again asking for me to lead teams to help your clan get better? I mean seriously if you are going to accuse me of doing something you might as well make it something that is actually true to a degree or even something that is not true but I cant disprove with a simple message like this. Also the idea that you think i am below average makes me laugh, do you really think that there are 11,000 players on this sight that are better than me at team games because that is what me being below average means.billy07 wrote:i said style of maps and you can play quads on certain maps with that type of gameplay. the maps i play are all risk orientated, no advantage is gained by me naming them. if you weren't a below average team player you'd realise that!!ljex wrote:You would think that i was doing this to be able to pick maps that you are not good at, whats really funny is that neither of the maps you list can even be played quads...but thanks for making a logical argument. Beyond that care to tell me why you dont think you would gain an advantage from picking your home maps?billy07 wrote:jesus fucking christ man. all those maps have no wierd bonuses or anything like that. ljex knows i play no feudal or aor style maps and would've picked two of those types of maps. why else does he want to change the format of the whole tourney for the final?Commander62890 wrote:All right, maybe this can appease both sides:
Get a neutral party to input the 9 maps into random.org and come to you with the 3 maps.
This way, Billy gets to play on his noob maps while Ljex can't accuse you of choosing Billy's best 3 maps out of the 9.
Eh?
i look forward to kicking your arses, and we will!!
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billy07
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Re: Top Guns {final}
at this moment in time i can't guanantee that i'll be on every day nor can i spell. i'm fucked mate but i reiterate that ljex is an idiot!grifftron wrote:billy just join the games, its best of 3, i sent out the 3 games, join them, i am not making them again, you guys all need to stop crying, join the games and get this tourney over with geez.
-griff
Re: Top Guns {final}
you could get a sitter...and thanks for the vote of confidencebilly07 wrote:at this moment in time i can't guanantee that i'll be on every day nor can i spell. i'm fucked mate but i reiterate that ljex is an idiot!grifftron wrote:billy just join the games, its best of 3, i sent out the 3 games, join them, i am not making them again, you guys all need to stop crying, join the games and get this tourney over with geez.
-griff
Re: Top Guns {final}
billy07 wrote:at this moment in time i can't guanantee that i'll be on every day nor can i spell. i'm fucked mate but i reiterate that ljex is an idiot!grifftron wrote:billy just join the games, its best of 3, i sent out the 3 games, join them, i am not making them again, you guys all need to stop crying, join the games and get this tourney over with geez.
-griff
well we are waiting on just you billy, everyone else has joined these games, please join them now or find a sitter, its only fair to all playing

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Re: Top Guns {final}
i've contacted billy and a potential sitter. will get back to you within 48hours
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billy07
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Re: Top Guns {Pre-Final debate}
you're not even in the same league as me and we both know it. even drunk and high i'm still better.ljex wrote:Words cant begin to describe how wrong that statement is. For one i would contend that i am a better team player than you are but that is at least debatable. If i was so bad at team games why would you have invited me to join MM again asking for me to lead teams to help your clan get better? I mean seriously if you are going to accuse me of doing something you might as well make it something that is actually true to a degree or even something that is not true but I cant disprove with a simple message like this. Also the idea that you think i am below average makes me laugh, do you really think that there are 11,000 players on this sight that are better than me at team games because that is what me being below average means.billy07 wrote:i said style of maps and you can play quads on certain maps with that type of gameplay. the maps i play are all risk orientated, no advantage is gained by me naming them. if you weren't a below average team player you'd realise that!!ljex wrote:You would think that i was doing this to be able to pick maps that you are not good at, whats really funny is that neither of the maps you list can even be played quads...but thanks for making a logical argument. Beyond that care to tell me why you dont think you would gain an advantage from picking your home maps?billy07 wrote:jesus fucking christ man. all those maps have no wierd bonuses or anything like that. ljex knows i play no feudal or aor style maps and would've picked two of those types of maps. why else does he want to change the format of the whole tourney for the final?Commander62890 wrote:All right, maybe this can appease both sides:
Get a neutral party to input the 9 maps into random.org and come to you with the 3 maps.
This way, Billy gets to play on his noob maps while Ljex can't accuse you of choosing Billy's best 3 maps out of the 9.
Eh?
i look forward to kicking your arses, and we will!!
Re: Top Guns {final}
OK just PM me TM, because blitz has been PM me as well saying you wanted him as a replacement. So let him know what is going on.TheMissionary wrote:i've contacted billy and a potential sitter. will get back to you within 48hours
-griff

Re: Top Guns {final}
can we just get this started? I don't think its fair that dustine as a freemium has to occupy 2 game slots currently and 3 shortly in waiting games because billy wont join...grifftron wrote:OK just PM me TM, because blitz has been PM me as well saying you wanted him as a replacement. So let him know what is going on.TheMissionary wrote:i've contacted billy and a potential sitter. will get back to you within 48hours
-griff
Re: Top Guns {final}
Hey its the final tho... i say give billy till morning (i will send these invites out to him 1 last time) if he still doesn't take them, TM has a replacement ready to play already).ljex wrote:can we just get this started? I don't think its fair that dustine as a freemium has to occupy 2 game slots currently and 3 shortly in waiting games because billy wont join...grifftron wrote:OK just PM me TM, because blitz has been PM me as well saying you wanted him as a replacement. So let him know what is going on.TheMissionary wrote:i've contacted billy and a potential sitter. will get back to you within 48hours
-griff
-griff

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Re: Top Guns {final}
tell him to pay $25 then or postpone the tourney till i can take part. this is only my second ever tourney and it's been tough route to the final, why should someone else step in now?ljex wrote:can we just get this started? I don't think its fair that dustine as a freemium has to occupy 2 game slots currently and 3 shortly in waiting games because billy wont join...grifftron wrote:OK just PM me TM, because blitz has been PM me as well saying you wanted him as a replacement. So let him know what is going on.TheMissionary wrote:i've contacted billy and a potential sitter. will get back to you within 48hours
-griff
Re: Top Guns {final}
I don't care if the final is now or a month from now quite honestly but you should know when joining a tournament that you are going to have to play in the games when they are created. Quite honestly its annoying to me too that we all have to wait for you to join the games. This is where an account sitter comes into play, tournaments are not like public games in that you can join them whenever you feel like, the invite comes around and you join thats how it is and most TO's have a rule as to how long you have before your team will forfeit. Maybe you should think of someone other than yourself in regards to this situation, not everyone has $25 to spend or for that mater wants to.billy07 wrote:tell him to pay $25 then or postpone the tourney till i can take part. this is only my second ever tourney and it's been tough route to the final, why should someone else step in now?ljex wrote:can we just get this started? I don't think its fair that dustine as a freemium has to occupy 2 game slots currently and 3 shortly in waiting games because billy wont join...grifftron wrote:OK just PM me TM, because blitz has been PM me as well saying you wanted him as a replacement. So let him know what is going on.TheMissionary wrote:i've contacted billy and a potential sitter. will get back to you within 48hours
-griff
