kaveheg & ahmadinejad [blocked]

[Ray Knobs]

These are suspected Multis

Suspect users: kaveheg & ahmadinejad

Game number: http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1186275
Comments: When you check the logs for these guys they always play together and at the same time.

[lord voldemort]

it looks suss but there is this freestyle game

007-11-12 10:52:58 - Incrementing game to round 5
2007-11-12 10:53:04 - Ignite receives 3 armies for 2 territories
2007-11-12 10:53:10 - Ignite cashed in a set of Conga, Andy's Mountains, and Sarah Desert worth 6 armies
2007-11-12 10:53:15 - ahmadinejad receives 3 armies for holding all of Europe
2007-11-12 10:53:15 - ahmadinejad receives 3 armies for 8 territories
2007-11-12 10:53:16 - Ignite deployed 9 armies on China
2007-11-12 10:53:18 - ahmadinejad cashed in a set of Egypt, UK, and Germany worth 8 armies
2007-11-12 10:53:18 - ahmadinejad gets bonus of 2 armies added to UK
2007-11-12 10:53:18 - ahmadinejad gets bonus of 2 armies added to Germany
2007-11-12 10:53:21 - Ignite attacked Irakistan from China and conquered it from ahmadinejad
2007-11-12 10:53:30 - Ignite attacked Russia from Irakistan and conquered it from ahmadinejad
2007-11-12 10:53:37 - ahmadinejad deployed 14 armies on Germany

*im really bored* henc edoing this

it will beinteresting to see wat a hunter says

[Ray Knobs]

ahmadinejad is the guys real account, kavehag was the one created to cheat. If you look at the kave games all were played with ahmad.
Sometime they played heads up against each other with kave throwing the game so ahmad would gain the points.

[lord voldemort]

ahmadinejad is the guys real account, kavehag was the one created to cheat. If you look at the kave games all were played with ahmad.
Sometime they played heads up against each other with kave throwing the game so ahmad would gain the points.

yer i saw that but my last post if they play freestyle with each other and go at the same time it generally is enuf to get them off...

[Ray Knobs]

the cheating is so blatant i bet they'll have the same IP

[cena-rules]

2007-11-12 10:53:16 - Ignite deployed 9 armies on China
2007-11-12 10:53:18 - ahmadinejad cashed in a set of Egypt, UK, and Germany worth 8 armies

so they can log off log on check 3 boxes and hit submit in 2 seconds

cleared

[lord voldemort]

2007-11-12 10:53:16 - Ignite deployed 9 armies on China
2007-11-12 10:53:18 - ahmadinejad cashed in a set of Egypt, UK, and Germany worth 8 armies

so they can log off log on check 3 boxes and hit submit in 2 seconds

cleared

you'd assum so, but knowing sully he'll pull something out...

[Ray Knobs]

2007-11-12 10:53:16 - Ignite deployed 9 armies on China
2007-11-12 10:53:18 - ahmadinejad cashed in a set of Egypt, UK, and Germany worth 8 armies

so they can log off log on check 3 boxes and hit submit in 2 seconds

cleared

"ignite" is not one of the offenders, its kave and ahmad

[cena-rules]

ah yes

oh they are the same persom

[tedge]

2007-11-12 10:53:16 - Ignite deployed 9 armies on China
2007-11-12 10:53:18 - ahmadinejad cashed in a set of Egypt, UK, and Germany worth 8 armies

so they can log off log on check 3 boxes and hit submit in 2 seconds

cleared

"ignite" is not one of the offenders, its kave and ahmad

plus you could be logged in under different browsers on one computer, so you wouldn't even have to log out

[Ray Knobs]

i caught him... he replied to me in the chat log from the wrong account


2007-11-12 16:44:06 - ahmadinejad: yeah, we play while taking to each other! u can play this game, if u see us teaming up against u, then u can report us. also look at the game we played against knons, and read the chat

2007-11-12 16:46:21 - ahmadinejad: she did attack me, she lost the role


later on

2007-11-12 20:33:02 - Ray Knobs: please explain why kaveheg has never played a game without you, or ever won, or ever typed in the chat
2007-11-12 23:23:28 - kaveheg: shes my gf

unless they are lesbians, ahmad replied to me thinking he was logged into his own account not kave

[ahmadinejad]

first of all. the player "what?" started all of this, now i dont know if u guys have access to look at a game step by step and see if someone attacked someone else but was unsuccessful u can figure everything out. u can also read the chat for the game my gf and i played against him and see wut went on. and i posted a negative feedback for him so he got pissed off and had the admin remove the feedback

and if you look at the game i am playing against ray knobs u again see that there is no teaming up. he is just losing bad and he doesnt want to play so he doesnt go down from 1402 points and go down from a sgt to a corpal!

[Ray Knobs]

I really don't care about my rank, it goes up and down all the time. You are trying to divert attention from your cheating.

You failed to address your screw up when you posted a reply to me under the wrong user name.

You and your "gf" play 2 player games where you always win and gain points, often times your "gf" only deploys armies and doesn't attack.


You and your "gf" play 3 player games and don't attack each other when you have countries and would lose a bonus. I have never claimed you don't attack each other. You do it to gain control of a country. Then you don't attack each other to take away the bonus. I am sure once your two accounts have knocked me out you'll take out kave. Or you'll be clever and let your dupe account win one.

Our game is the 1st time that you two didn't play with 30 seconds of each other, only after being called out on it.

Your excuse? you are teaching your "gf" how to play?? You "two" are in collusion, its unannounced, and no one would have anyway of knowing it till after you have started a game. If by some amazing reason you are not busted playing 2 accounts from 1 IP you two should be banned from playing with each other.

I haven't gotten angry, i haven't called you any names, any feedback i leave for you will be solely based on what i see in this game and you won't have any grounds to whine to get it removed. I hope i don't have that chance because you have been removed from this site. CC is an awesome site, you are the 1st cheat i have come across in 200 games. I am only doing this to save someone else from having to deal with you and your "gf"

[Ray Knobs]

2007-11-13 02:44:56 - ahmadinejad: she was on my account on my computer and showed me wut u had written. so i took it from her and wrote it not knowing she has logged in with her account

lol, yeah right. You got caught, that is really the only excuse you could make.

Rule #1: No multiple accounts

Rule #2: No secret alliances

What is it going to take to have something done about this?

[ahmadinejad]

1. we dont have multiple accounts
- i think what they mean by multiple accounts is ONE person having TWO accounts, there is no rules against people being friends is there?
2. there is no secrete alliance. its obvious, ur just getting ur ass kicked by a girl and ur mad about it.

im sure the admin can look up who attacked who and if they lost roles or not! and then ull be sad that u didnt concentrate on a good strategy to win the game. u didnt go for michigan cuz u said its dumb to have two territories?! but when u have 10 armies bunched up there and u dont take away my territory the best u can do with them is to take a territory urself, and thats where u lost the game, u lost to prevent green from getting bonuses and then she had enough troops to take over ur only territory and now u r on the verge of losing the game. u didnt look to see that u were playing against 2 different players, as soon as u felt that ur going to lose u started for a way out and that was saying that there is a secrete allience!

well we will let the admin to be the judge, im sure when he/she looks at the attacks and roles it will be obvious that its two different people... and ur argument is that we play at the same time and we dont have any CHATS together? dude have u ever not played with ur friends? dont u pick up the phone or if ur a full fledged computer geek chat with them online?
i started playing here for fun and then decided to play against other people to challenge myself, but i didnt think i would stumble upon suck insecure people like u who as soon as they smell defeat, they start looking for another way out. u could have won the game easily but u didnt give urself a chance.

[ahmadinejad]

ps. it looks kinda sad u and i going against eachother on the forum like this, it donno if when one of the replies said clear it means its over or not?

the chats and everything is there so let the admin decide, meanwhile get back to ur game, i do understand that u have 24 hrs to play ur turn and ur set on getting me banned. but its only a game so play the GAME

[Ray Knobs]

that guy that said "clear" was not an admin and was looking at the wrong user names, you'll notice after i corrected him he said "oh yes they are the same person"

you seem to have this problem where you only see what you want to see.

I don't care what this looks like, i am sure you would like me to stop since every time you talk you dig a bigger hole for yourself. sad? what is really sad is creating a second account and playing a heads up game against it just for the points, points that don't mean anything. That's sad.

[ahmadinejad]

playing against friends is fun and ur right, the points dont mean anything, but obvious kaveh and i are better players than u are, cuz if i didnt have experience playing RISK and just against myself i would be surely losing to u right? if u r so sure in urself just play the game. and wuts the point of me playing against myself just for points? wuts so special about getting points off kaveh? if i didnt know how to play i would have lost those points to u, or other players i played against.
and how am i digging a deeper hole for myself believe in wut i want to believe? if i was cheating i wouldnt have cared! its not like im a premium member and im losing money!! i just wont let go if have a right and others r trying to get out of losing wut? 20 points?

[romeojguy]

2007-11-05 23:06:06 - ahmadinejad: its pretty even dude

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1149942 This game was pretty funny about how obvious he is in showing he is a multi.

Joins November 5th and already has won 84% of his games.

Also noticed strange behavior between doolman and that jaghi of this guys. From checking out some of the games jaghi.

http://www.conquerclub.com/player.php?p ... yer1=jaghi

They all are from canada and two of them have very high win percentages.

Sets up private games and plays it really badly. almost like on purpose. The chat could be intentional to make it seem less obvious of course.


And jaghi and his girlfriend both joined on Oct. 25th. And both have lost all their games to both these people.

They also all speak Klingon. I discovered this by searching jagh wiki in google and being led to a wikidictionary for klingon. VERY suspicious: http://tlh.wiktionary.org/wiki/jagh

[Ogre]

Definitely, the games with Jaghi look weird b/c all they played was freestyle games, but in almost every game they were never playing at the same time except for on 2 occasions that i have seen. The majority have turns have a 5-9 second windown btwn them. On many occasions Jaghi would deploy and take no action. On one occasion Jaghi cashed in a set deployed and ended turn. If you look at the game it would seem that Ahmadinejad is playing with 2 windows open. The couple times that both players were actually going at the same time, neither player did anything until one their turns were over. In one turn Jaghi started, 4 seconds later Ahmadinejad started but Jaghi never deployed until 4 seconds afterAhmadinjad ended his turn. Game number 1159305. Im only taking interest in this b/c i am playing him right now in a game.

[crzyblue]

I'll take blocked for 150 please

[What?]

playing against friends is fun and ur right, the points dont mean anything, but obvious kaveh and i are better players than u are, cuz if i didnt have experience playing RISK and just against myself i would be surely losing to u right? if u r so sure in urself just play the game. and wuts the point of me playing against myself just for points? wuts so special about getting points off kaveh? if i didnt know how to play i would have lost those points to u, or other players i played against.
and how am i digging a deeper hole for myself believe in wut i want to believe? if i was cheating i wouldnt have cared! its not like im a premium member and im losing money!! i just wont let go if have a right and others r trying to get out of losing wut? 20 points?

Yeah but you're not better players than me, I kicked both your asses right from the start, even with YOU BEING THE SAME PERSON. lol looser. you're not good enough to beat people without cheating (or me even with cheating) and now you have been caught and you are trying to wiggle your way out of it, admit it like a man and move on.

[ahmadinejad]

oh really? im not good enough? well u can go and look at the 4 games im playing. im loosing two of them and but in the other two it does look like i have good grasp on the game.... and they are both with higher ranks. one of the lord voldermot is playing in it too, so u can ask him wut he thinks of my game and strategies.

and go back to the game that i played against u. how many times did u almost lose it? read the chat. as soon as u read wut i told u to do, u closed the game and gave no chance to us. u could have finished the game in 7 rounds but it took u 12, and u lost ur territory twice, u just have the advantage of holding plan B, which is the best place to be on that map.

im losing two games so it shouldnt take that long for me to be able to start other games... then u can play against me and see how u do again!

[romeojguy]

oh really? im not good enough? well u can go and look at the 4 games im playing. im loosing two of them and but in the other two it does look like i have good grasp on the game.... and they are both with higher ranks. one of the lord voldermot is playing in it too, so u can ask him wut he thinks of my game and strategies.

and go back to the game that i played against u. how many times did u almost lose it? read the chat. as soon as u read wut i told u to do, u closed the game and gave no chance to us. u could have finished the game in 7 rounds but it took u 12, and u lost ur territory twice, u just have the advantage of holding plan B, which is the best place to be on that map.

im losing two games so it shouldnt take that long for me to be able to start other games... then u can play against me and see how u do again!

This topic is not about your skill but about if you are using multiple accounts or not. Why you want to change the subject.

[ahmadinejad]

"what?" questioned my game and i said wut i had to say about it!
i dont know what "pending" means?! is it done with or no? but i donno y everyone comes and puts a little input. if it was clear as ray had put it y am i not banned yet? and if pending means that it depends on the game kaveheg and i r playing with ray right now... y does he miss his turns? he knows hes gonna lose and he wants it to look like a double team/cheat? i donno? but i think he should play to make it right

can an admin help me out here and tell me if wut hes doing right?
im not trying to change the subject... if it says pending its pending then, the facts are there the person in charge can decide. as i said before i just defend my rights