Game 13306 Intentional inactivity?

[Sero]

I realize that in general most cases of inactivity in a game are just the person joined then forgot, or something similar, and it's virtually impossible to prove otherwise, however, in this case...

Game 13306, from the in game chat:

2006-04-08 00:53:44 - SqueekyDragon: Alliance arranged between Sero and SqueekyDragon.
2006-04-08 00:57:58 - WittyName: deadbeat by WittyName, have fun boys

I realize there isn't a rule against this so far as I can tell, but...

Thoughts?

[johnnyrotten]

Bastard. Absolute bastard.

[Marvaddin]

Bad behavior... its only to trouble you, because he played 2 turns and will still lose points.

Anyway, an alliance in a game of 3 players is at minimum unfair, too. And the way the alliance was announced is very suspicious.

[Sero]

Unfair, perhaps, but then, the idea behind alliances is to give you the advantage. I say if a tactic helps you win, and isn't taking abuse of the game mechanics, it's fair game. But...As for the alliance being suspicous, how so? I know SqueekyDragon outside of CC, he's the one who introduced me to it, and we discussed it over MSN Messenger. All the rules require is that you announce an alliance publically, you're allowed to plan and plot together secretly.

[zip_disk]

While the alliance wasn't against the rules, from what it looks like the alliance wasn't really necessary. WittyName didn't appear to be that serious a threat to either of you when you formed an alliance in the second turn.

Victimizing a player instead of your friend no real reason can approach being called "griefing" though doesn't quite qualify I guess. If you're going to make alliances that aren't necessary just to ensure that one of you will win, why don't you just play doubles rather than wasting a third person's time on a game they can't win without massive amounts of luck?

I know most people wouldn't join your games if they knew the two of you were just going to team on them.

[Sero]

Actually, our desire was just for a quick game, and since both of us knew we would be on for long enough to play through a game if it was just the two of us, and since all the three person games we had been in together where the third person was just some random player had that third person be very slow to take turns...Ironic, yes, but intentionally meaning to ruin other people's games, or to guarentee that one of us wins? Hardly. We may be friends, but on CC we run a bitter feud, ever since that round where we first played on the Asia map a while back.

Kinda depressing, though, that the state of the game is such that you automatically assume we were out to be unfair to other players...

[zip_disk]

Actually, our desire was just for a quick game, and since both of us knew we would be on for long enough to play through a game if it was just the two of us, and since all the three person games we had been in together where the third person was just some random player had that third person be very slow to take turns...Ironic, yes, but intentionally meaning to ruin other people's games, or to guarentee that one of us wins? Hardly. We may be friends, but on CC we run a bitter feud, ever since that round where we first played on the Asia map a while back.

Kinda depressing, though, that the state of the game is such that you automatically assume we were out to be unfair to other players...

In your first paragraph you admit you were being unfair to Witty so you could play a fast game, then in the second paragraph you say its depressing that I thought you might've been being unfair after you just admitted to it?

Ok...

[Sero]

Nowhere in the first paragraph did I admit I was being unfair. You think what I did was unfair. Admitting that I did something that you think is unfair isn't the same thing as admitting it's unfair.

And now back to the actual topic of our conversation! Actually, no, that's already been addressed, I think, so there's nothing more to talk about. I'm going to say that as the point of this thread is now moot, I'm going to stop looking at it while I'm still in a good mood, instead of quibbling with zip_disk about how he thinks it's unfair that I object to his putting words in my mouth, or whatever it was he was complaining about. I'm in such a good mood I can't remember. Yay! ^_^