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Postby Marvaddin on Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:46 am

wrightfan123 wrote:Rebels:
qwert(WWII Eastern Front, Iwo Jima (FF))
DiM(Age of Mechants)
Coleman(8 Thoughts, Great Lakes)
Mibi(Seige, D-day(FF))
gimil(Portugal(FF))
Marvaddin (Brazil and Philippines, lol)
Wisse (China(FF))

Just to confirm, Im all the rebel side. For several months, I scrolled down each attack even in the classic map. Scrolling is no problemo if its a good map :)
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Postby DiM on Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:47 am

made some modifications:

wrightfan123 wrote:Loyalists:
WidowMakers (King of the Mountains, Great Lakes, Circus Maximus Revamp, Indochina Revamp, Montreal Revamp, 8 Thoughts graphics, Rail USA graphics)
Pepperonibread (Extreme Global Warming)
Bad Speler (Arctic)
Jota (Space, USApocalypse, CCU, Crossword, DiscWorld)
The Fuzzy Pengui (Brazil Revamp)

Rebels:
qwert (WWII Eastern Front, Iwo Jima (FF))
DiM (Age of Mechants)
Coleman (8 Thoughts, Great Lakes)
Mibi (Seige, D-day(FF))
gimil (Portugal(FF))
Marvaddin (Brazil, Philippines)
Wisse (China(FF))
reverend_kyle (France (FF))
maritovw (Caribbean Sea)

Neutrals(as far as I can tell):
Cairns (Cairns Coral Coast, Pearl Harbor, WWII Battle for Australia, Valley of the Kings, Rail USA graphics)

Third Party:
Oaktown (Chinese Checkers)



i think the sun is coming from behind the clouds rain has stopped and the rebels got some Molotov cocktails :twisted:
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Postby wrightfan123 on Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:50 am

DiM wrote:made some modifications:

wrightfan123 wrote:Loyalists:
WidowMakers (King of the Mountains, Great Lakes, Circus Maximus Revamp, Indochina Revamp, Montreal Revamp, 8 Thoughts graphics, Rail USA graphics)
Pepperonibread (Extreme Global Warming)
Bad Speler (Arctic)
Jota (Space, USApocalypse, CCU, Crossword, DiscWorld)
The Fuzzy Pengui (Brazil Revamp)

Rebels:
qwert (WWII Eastern Front, Iwo Jima (FF))
DiM (Age of Mechants)
Coleman (8 Thoughts, Great Lakes)
Mibi (Seige, D-day(FF))
gimil (Portugal(FF))
Marvaddin (Brazil, Philippines)
Wisse (China(FF))
reverend_kyle (France (FF))
maritovw (Caribbean Sea)

Neutrals(as far as I can tell):
Cairns (Cairns Coral Coast, Pearl Harbor, WWII Battle for Australia, Valley of the Kings, Rail USA graphics)

Third Party:
Oaktown (Chinese Checkers)



i think the sun is coming from behind the clouds rain has stopped and the rebels got some Molotov cocktails :twisted:


DiM, keep this running for a bit. I've got homework. But yes, I think you guys are getting some momentum. Congratulations. You guys affored working bebe guns and took off you blindfols. But it's still raining. :)

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Postby Telvannia on Sat Sep 15, 2007 11:43 am

can i join the teaming rebel militia.

Im not exactly a map maker in the strictest sense, but i do loiter here with intent.


also i think the rebels should blow up a symbol of mod oppression, how about andy's monkey, go on DiM you know you want to have a signature with andy blowing up in :lol:
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Postby DiM on Sat Sep 15, 2007 1:20 pm

Loyalists:
WidowMakers (King of the Mountains, Great Lakes, Circus Maximus Revamp, Indochina Revamp, Montreal Revamp, 8 Thoughts graphics, Rail USA graphics)
Pepperonibread (Extreme Global Warming)
Bad Speler (Arctic)
Jota (Space, USApocalypse, CCU, Crossword, DiscWorld)
The Fuzzy Pengui (Brazil Revamp)

Rebels:
qwert (WWII Eastern Front, Iwo Jima (FF))
DiM (Age of Mechants)
Coleman (8 Thoughts, Great Lakes)
Mibi (Seige, D-day(FF))
gimil (Portugal(FF))
Marvaddin (Brazil, Philippines)
Wisse (China(FF))
reverend_kyle (France (FF))
maritovw (Caribbean Sea)
Telvannia (Ragnarok)

Neutrals(as far as I can tell):
Cairns (Cairns Coral Coast, Pearl Harbor, WWII Battle for Australia, Valley of the Kings, Rail USA graphics)

Third Party:
Oaktown (Chinese Checkers)

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Postby DiM on Sat Sep 15, 2007 1:21 pm

Telvannia wrote:can i join the teaming rebel militia.

Im not exactly a map maker in the strictest sense, but i do loiter here with intent.


also i think the rebels should blow up a symbol of mod oppression, how about andy's monkey, go on DiM you know you want to have a signature with andy blowing up in :lol:


i added you to the rebels.

i previously threatened andy in my life in prison topic by posting the image below.
this time i might do it :twisted:

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Postby Wisse on Sat Sep 15, 2007 2:45 pm

DiM wrote:
Telvannia wrote:can i join the teaming rebel militia.

Im not exactly a map maker in the strictest sense, but i do loiter here with intent.


also i think the rebels should blow up a symbol of mod oppression, how about andy's monkey, go on DiM you know you want to have a signature with andy blowing up in :lol:


i added you to the rebels.

i previously threatened andy in my life in prison topic by posting the image below.
this time i might do it :twisted:

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thats a old picture, i think mibi used it in another thread
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Postby DiM on Sat Sep 15, 2007 3:01 pm

Wisse wrote:
DiM wrote:
i previously threatened andy in my life in prison topic by posting the image below.
this time i might do it :twisted:


thats a old picture, i think mibi used it in another thread


i think you're confusing. i made that image and used it in my life in prison map. here is a link: http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=21133&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=45

anyway i'm serious about the monkey. he'll get it :twisted:
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Postby BelJoDoe on Sat Sep 15, 2007 3:02 pm

One of the great things about computers over board games is that large physical spaces can be represented much more easily without having to have a piece of thick cardboard 20metres by 20metres installed in your house. To not use that capability because you're worried your scrolling finger might get tired just seems silly.

I'm a rebel. I even have a bandana and a Che Guevara T-shirt too, to prove it. Now I just need to find my Automat-Kalashinikov and I'll be set! Capitalist Pig-Dogs beware.
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Postby DiM on Sat Sep 15, 2007 3:04 pm

Loyalists:
WidowMakers (King of the Mountains, Great Lakes, Circus Maximus Revamp, Indochina Revamp, Montreal Revamp, 8 Thoughts graphics, Rail USA graphics)
Pepperonibread (Extreme Global Warming)
Bad Speler (Arctic)
Jota (Space, USApocalypse, CCU, Crossword, DiscWorld)
The Fuzzy Pengui (Brazil Revamp)

Rebels:
qwert (WWII Eastern Front, Iwo Jima (FF))
DiM (Age of Mechants)
Coleman (8 Thoughts, Great Lakes)
Mibi (Seige, D-day(FF))
gimil (Portugal(FF))
Marvaddin (Brazil, Philippines)
Wisse (China(FF))
reverend_kyle (France (FF))
maritovw (Caribbean Sea)
Telvannia (Ragnarok)
BelJoDoe (Pixel World, CC:MoM)

Neutrals(as far as I can tell):
Cairns (Cairns Coral Coast, Pearl Harbor, WWII Battle for Australia, Valley of the Kings, Rail USA graphics)

Third Party:
Oaktown (Chinese Checkers)

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Postby Qwert on Sat Sep 15, 2007 3:10 pm

qwert (WWII Eastern Front, Iwo Jima (FF)) mising-WWII Western Front-WWII Europe

Here mine example for scroling issue,i think that scroling(who some guys afraid to do)not problem for these map dimension.
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Postby The Fuzzy Pengui on Sat Sep 15, 2007 3:20 pm

Let me put that I am a loyalist, as I have previously stated. However, I do not mind if maps are made that have to be scrolled. I am just supporting the Foundry Mods and Lack in the decisions made, because they run the site. Therefore they do what they believe is best :)
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Postby hulmey on Sat Sep 15, 2007 3:27 pm

ok good news is that that 3 of he loyalist are under 18 :D and the friggn bad news is that im not on the list!!!!
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Postby DiM on Sat Sep 15, 2007 3:38 pm

hulmey wrote:ok good news is that that 3 of he loyalist are under 18 :D and the friggn bad news is that im not on the list!!!!


w123 has put only map makers on the list that's why many people are missing.
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Postby wrightfan123 on Sat Sep 15, 2007 3:46 pm

DiM wrote:
hulmey wrote:ok good news is that that 3 of he loyalist are under 18 :D and the friggn bad news is that im not on the list!!!!


w123 has put only map makers on the list that's why many people are missing.


For the record, I'm not legally aloud to be on most of the forums I visit. :D
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Postby hulmey on Sat Sep 15, 2007 4:41 pm

Oh so we got discrimination here have we? I give just as much input into the foundry as the map makers do!!! Even more probably!!
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Postby DiM on Sat Sep 15, 2007 5:02 pm

hulmey wrote:Oh so we got discrimination here have we? I give just as much input into the foundry as the map makers do!!! Even more probably!!


i suggest to make your own party. the Feedback Givers Party.
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Postby oaktown on Sat Sep 15, 2007 7:29 pm

hulmey wrote:Oh so we got discrimination here have we? I give just as much input into the foundry as the map makers do!!! Even more probably!!

Hulmey, you're welcome in my party. I don't discriminate. Power to the people, brother!
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Re: The Discussion on Map Size (Decision on Pg 1 & 11)

Postby reggie_mac on Wed Oct 08, 2008 5:27 pm

Its been over a year since the decision was made not to increase the allowable sizes for maps , so lets revisit this.

I am in favour of increasing the limits, now I'm not saying lets go stupidly large, but at least give us a little something more to work with.

Here is my reasoning behind it.

Resolution vs. % of Internet Users
Higher than 1024×768 = 38%
1024×768 = 48%
800×600 = 8%
Lower than 800×600 = < 1%
Unknown = 6%

So as we can see 80%+ of people use a screen res of 1024x768 or higher, which is pretty much the new standard for 4:3 monitors (this includes wide screen monitors which have are generally in the 1200x800 mark)

The display size of higher than 1024x768 is up 12% for 2008 on last year so going by these trends we can expect around 50% plus people to be using the SXGA (1280 x 1024) by mid/end of next year.

This info is from w3schools

Now CC is a php site, so that means by using some javascript and php commands it shouldn't be too difficult to collect screen resolution data from the CC users to make an informed decision.

Personally I think if we are being limited in our map sizes because of up to 15% of the users (800x600 and lower, and the unkown) then there are some issues.

So yeah, if your not going to up the size, give us the Stats and the reasoning behind it.
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Re: The Discussion on Map Size (Decision on Pg 1 & 11)

Postby RjBeals on Wed Oct 08, 2008 5:32 pm

Lack should put a poll on the home page - would people prefer larger maps? or what size monitor is your main computer?
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Re: The Discussion on Map Size (Decision on Pg 1 & 11)

Postby reggie_mac on Wed Oct 08, 2008 5:34 pm

or he could sign up for Google Analytics and this info would be given to him.
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Re: The Discussion on Map Size (Decision on Pg 1 & 11)

Postby Qwert on Wed Oct 08, 2008 5:58 pm

Its not going to hepend,belive me :|
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Re: The Discussion on Map Size (Decision on Pg 1 & 11)

Postby TaCktiX on Wed Oct 08, 2008 6:19 pm

I conducted this poll a couple of months back. Based on GD popular opinion I think a re-examination of map size is in order.

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=55596&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=prefer+large+maps%3F
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Re: The Discussion on Map Size (Decision on Pg 1 & 11)

Postby reggie_mac on Wed Oct 08, 2008 6:56 pm

TaCktiX wrote:I conducted this poll a couple of months back. Based on GD popular opinion I think a re-examination of map size is in order.

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=55596&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=prefer+large+maps%3F


I'm trying to put a slightly different spin on it, The poll shows most of us would play a larger map, but what I'm saying is the CC needs to keep moving forward with the advances in the technology that are used to access it. Its not a case of if we want to play maps that are larger than our screen res, its a case that if the average screen res is higher than it was at the time the decision was made, the allowable map size should be increased. And im asking for a little hard data to show why this decision was made.

Hell, i have a cranking screen but i play small maps only because i can't be bothered clicking the large map link.
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Re: The Discussion on Map Size (Decision on Pg 1 & 11)

Postby bryguy on Wed Oct 08, 2008 9:06 pm

i had a good idea for larger maps. Like if they were bigger than the screen, then people could click on it to zoom in/out. Sure its more hassle, but it would probably be only 8 player maps that would be bigger (there are definately problems for 8 player conquest maps (like Famine) where people are squished in cause of the map size restrictions)
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