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Re: Black Metal Mafia - D1

Postby Ragian on Wed Jan 29, 2025 12:52 am

Official vote count

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EW (1) - Loose
Kong (2) - Charle, Devante
Loose (1) - EW

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

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Re: Black Metal Mafia - D1

Postby Ragian on Wed Jan 29, 2025 12:53 am

Official vote count - EBWOP

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EW (1) - Loose
Kong (2) - Charle, Devante
Charle (1) - Max
Loose (1) - EW

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

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Re: Black Metal Mafia - D3

Postby Loose Canon on Wed Jan 29, 2025 2:22 am

Extreme Ways wrote:
Loose Canon wrote:A scum Ew would have to either deal with a town strike at some point, or risk leaving a town strike in the game at the end. I'd contend that a scum Ew would figure better n2 with 3 town already down, than wait, particularly if a scum Ew had a ready cooked excuse of strike elimination just throws suspicion on me.
Also a scum Ew would be the most obvious investigation target for a detective so a scum Ew has the most disincentive to recruit.

We are talking hypothetically about a scum Ew though aren't we?

I didnt particularly townread strike but strike was not really doing anything in this game. The real question especially if we are in a no-recruit game is why Charle is still alive


Strike was a future danger to scum even if he hadn't really done much so far and he was as likely as anyone to be jailkeeper.
If jailkeeper flips coin n1 as to whether to jail Charle n1 then whatever the result jails Charle alternative nights, scum leaves Charle in game till jailkeeper is gone.
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Re: Black Metal Mafia - D3

Postby Charle on Wed Jan 29, 2025 2:33 am

Loose Canon wrote:
Extreme Ways wrote:
Loose Canon wrote:A scum Ew would have to either deal with a town strike at some point, or risk leaving a town strike in the game at the end. I'd contend that a scum Ew would figure better n2 with 3 town already down, than wait, particularly if a scum Ew had a ready cooked excuse of strike elimination just throws suspicion on me.
Also a scum Ew would be the most obvious investigation target for a detective so a scum Ew has the most disincentive to recruit.

We are talking hypothetically about a scum Ew though aren't we?

I didnt particularly townread strike but strike was not really doing anything in this game. The real question especially if we are in a no-recruit game is why Charle is still alive


Strike was a future danger to scum even if he hadn't really done much so far and he was as likely as anyone to be jailkeeper.
If jailkeeper flips coin n1 as to whether to jail Charle n1 then whatever the result jails Charle alternative nights, scum leaves Charle in game till jailkeeper is gone.


I think you hit the nail right on the head here and I agree completely. I wanted to reply almost the same by saying "the reason that I am still alive is that our jailkeeper is protecting me, or at least I hope so". Scum would rather try to find jailkeeper than a confirmed vanilla townie.
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Re: Black Metal Mafia - D3

Postby Loose Canon on Wed Jan 29, 2025 2:37 am

So maybe the real question is whether Ew is a nail worth hammering?
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Re: Black Metal Mafia - D3

Postby SoN!c on Wed Jan 29, 2025 1:07 pm

Ok, wanted to see what everybody would do D3 after my first visit on D3 when i saw there were already 2 votes placed...i get Charle's but Loose is just like "LOOK THERE, don't look at me!"

Just before N2 loose voted Max (i even posted back then if this was done especially to ACT like everything i said was untrue)..

Because Loose has been pointing as a mad man to everybody else by now. Even at Pix when Pix voted Max for good reason.

And anybody who takes himself a bit serious should continue the next day in the same mindset. Voting Max just before nightfall (switching vote again) but not continuing with Max at all at the start of the new day?

It's Loose. His votes are jumping all over the place. By now he has voted Charle, Pixar, me, Traf, Dev, Strike, EW (and Max but i don't believe the vote on Max was genuine).



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Re: Black Metal Mafia - D3

Postby Ragian on Wed Jan 29, 2025 1:52 pm

See, Loose? It's a common mistake. O:)
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Re: Black Metal Mafia - D3

Postby Loose Canon on Wed Jan 29, 2025 2:13 pm

Charle, convinced me with his - don't lynch me I'm town after he'd played a bit fast and loose with the rules. As I said I think he is inherently an honest guy. Up till then I thought it was worth exploring and I was in tune with max at that point.
Pix was instinctive - I was wrong.
Sonic I'm still suspicious of.
Dev I was suspicious of, suspicions neutralised by his responses.
Traf I'm still suspicious of but to a lesser degree than sonic.
Strike I had suspicions on - I was wrong.
I sensed a mislynch on jfm - nothing else I was trying was getting any traction for a D2 lynching.
Voted max, because could be scum, and better lynch than jfm.

Have I not explained why I was voting for who when I voted.

3 vanilla towns down at end of D2 made Ew logical choice to vote for d3 particularly if another vanilla went down n2 - another vanilla did go down. I'll admit I was while waiting for d3 to start thinking either strike or Ew if another vanilla down.

My vote on Ew is pretty firm d3.
Sonic though is firming himself top of my most likely 2nd scum again - don't really see what he is trying to do except protect Ew, or if Ew doesn't flip scum give himself a told you so type of defence.

I'm not afraid of being wrong - ask questions see the reactions, sooner or LATER they will be the right questions eliciting the wrong reactions.
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Re: Black Metal Mafia - D3

Postby SoN!c on Wed Jan 29, 2025 2:20 pm

Loose Canon wrote:Charle, convinced me with his - don't lynch me I'm town after he'd played a bit fast and loose with the rules. As I said I think he is inherently an honest guy. Up till then I thought it was worth exploring and I was in tune with max at that point.
Pix was instinctive - I was wrong.
Sonic I'm still suspicious of.
Dev I was suspicious of, suspicions neutralised by his responses.
Traf I'm still suspicious of but to a lesser degree than sonic.
Strike I had suspicions on - I was wrong.
I sensed a mislynch on jfm - nothing else I was trying was getting any traction for a D2 lynching.
Voted max, because could be scum, and better lynch than jfm.

Have I not explained why I was voting for who when I voted.

3 vanilla towns down at end of D2 made Ew logical choice to vote for d3 particularly if another vanilla went down n2 - another vanilla did go down. I'll admit I was while waiting for d3 to start thinking either strike or Ew if another vanilla down.

My vote on Ew is pretty firm d3.
Sonic though is firming himself top of my most likely 2nd scum again - don't really see what he is trying to do except protect Ew, or if Ew doesn't flip scum give himself a told you so type of defence.

I'm not afraid of being wrong - ask questions see the reactions, sooner or LATER they will be the right questions eliciting the wrong reactions.


"Pix was instinctive - I was wrong"

"Strike I had suspicions on - I was wrong."

I have only voted you all game long Loose. You have voted everybody but Kong by now but your Max votes (2) were never serious votes. One Max vote at the start with fast unvote, one at the end (when there was zero danger).
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Re: Black Metal Mafia - D3

Postby SoN!c on Wed Jan 29, 2025 2:21 pm

"I sensed a mislynch on jfm"


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Re: Black Metal Mafia - D3

Postby Loose Canon on Wed Jan 29, 2025 3:14 pm

Scum knew, and I guess only scum really knows whether I'm one of them or not.
But there is no world in which avoiding a mislynch is more guilty than joining one.
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Re: Black Metal Mafia - D3

Postby SoN!c on Wed Jan 29, 2025 3:23 pm

Loose Canon wrote:Scum knew, and I guess only scum really knows whether I'm one of them or not.
But there is no world in which avoiding a mislynch is more guilty than joining one.


"Strike was a future danger to scum even if he hadn't really done much so far and he was as likely as anyone to be jailkeeper.
If jailkeeper flips coin n1 as to whether to jail Charle n1 then whatever the result jails Charle alternative nights, scum leaves Charle in game till jailkeeper is gone."

You certainly shown here you think as scum.

"But there is no world in which avoiding a mislynch is more guilty than joining one". That is not the question and you know it.

You were blind like a mole on Pix when it suited a scum loose? Blind like a mole with Strike who suspected you and is now dead? Blind like a mole on JFM's contradictions?

But you "pre-sensed" a JFM mislynch? Like supernatural psyche powers? Sure buddy, whatever you say. Who is your scumbuddy?
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Re: Black Metal Mafia - D3

Postby SoN!c on Wed Jan 29, 2025 3:31 pm

" I guess only scum really knows whether I'm one of them or not.'"

One word to reply this bullshit: LMAO


"I guess only scum really knows whether I'm one of them or not.'???
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Re: Black Metal Mafia - D3

Postby Loose Canon on Wed Jan 29, 2025 3:37 pm

Ew called me right back at you "buddy".
Now sonic is calling me "buddy"

Thing is I'd bet my game right now that Ew is the best lynch d3.
I wouldn't go quite so far as that with sonic.
But as a gambling man I'd stick a reasonable sum at reasonable odds on the forecast.
Ew is the best lynch d3 (with sonic the sloppy second)
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Re: Black Metal Mafia - D3

Postby SoN!c on Wed Jan 29, 2025 3:43 pm

Loose Canon wrote:Ew called me right back at you "buddy".
Now sonic is calling me "buddy"

Thing is I'd bet my game right now that Ew is the best lynch d3.
I wouldn't go quite so far as that with sonic.
But as a gambling man I'd stick a reasonable sum at reasonable odds on the forecast.
Ew is the best lynch d3 (with sonic the sloppy second)


Im calling you buddy for exactly that reason and now the only thing you can come up with is that me and EW are the 2 scum because we both call you buddy?

But you can't reply any real question? Still busy ironing and signing T-shirts?
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Re: Black Metal Mafia - D3

Postby SoN!c on Wed Jan 29, 2025 3:49 pm

Super sighted on JFM flipping town but blind as a mole all game long on everything else? Explain?

Also: I was "cleared" but when i keep coming at ya im the biggest suspect again (or second biggest)???
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Re: Black Metal Mafia - D3

Postby Loose Canon on Wed Jan 29, 2025 4:15 pm

You - sonic - cleared????

The correct play is straightforward.

1. Lynch Ew today. (If he flips scum I'm virtually cleared)
2. If Ew flips scum, jailkeeper jails you sonic tonight so we see if there is a kill or not. If not you are virtually incriminated. If there is still a kill you're probably innocent - albeit one who's played distraction for 2nd scum today.

Are you afraid of the play on Ew today sonic?
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Re: Black Metal Mafia - D3

Postby SoN!c on Wed Jan 29, 2025 4:17 pm

I was sure yesterday and even more so today.

strike wolf wrote:I'm mostly in agreement with Son!c. I'll add that one of the Scum tells I remember for Loose is that he tends to be more wishy washy as scum than he is as town. His vote jumps around more in general when he's scum.


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Re: Black Metal Mafia - D3

Postby SoN!c on Wed Jan 29, 2025 4:25 pm

Is he right on you Loose? This game you have voted everybody but Kong by now (even we are early D3) and your votes on Max are not genuine. Only you have non genuine votes. And wishy washy all over the place "look at them - don't look at me!" style.. (your favorite scum tactic / scum play whatever (because its hard to keep your nerves while posting that much).

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Re: Black Metal Mafia - D3

Postby Loose Canon on Wed Jan 29, 2025 4:28 pm

I can with honesty play I suspect you more than you suspect me all d3 long sonic. And maybe we are equal, maybe one of us has zero real suspicion on the other.

There's 2 scum to be found.

Fact is Ew lynch is the correct d3 town play.
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Re: Black Metal Mafia - D3

Postby SoN!c on Wed Jan 29, 2025 4:37 pm

Loose Canon wrote:I can with honesty play I suspect you more than you suspect me all d3 long sonic. And maybe we are equal, maybe one of us has zero real suspicion on the other.

There's 2 scum to be found.

Fact is Ew lynch is the correct d3 town play.


You killed Strike because of the quote i posted just now. A town loose would have commented that immediatly but you didn't. You ignored that quote 100% because its the truth and the reason why you killed him last night. So you act like you didn't see it just like real murderers do.


Now after you read this your chance "in tempore non suspecto" to comment that quote is gone ofcourse. Only one chance to see something or not buddy.
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Re: Black Metal Mafia - D3

Postby SoN!c on Wed Jan 29, 2025 4:40 pm

Again blind as a mole?
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Re: Black Metal Mafia - D3

Postby Loose Canon on Wed Jan 29, 2025 4:46 pm

Ew lynch needs 4 of Charle, dev, Kong, Traf, max to join me. Or sonic if town and reluctantly joins if/when say 3 of the 5 have.

Cold light of day3 it's the correct play.
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Re: Black Metal Mafia - D3

Postby SoN!c on Wed Jan 29, 2025 4:57 pm

Loose Canon wrote:Ew lynch needs 4 of Charle, dev, Kong, Traf, max to join me. Or sonic if town and reluctantly joins if/when say 3 of the 5 have.

Cold light of day3 it's the correct play.


Lynching pix was the correct play, lynching strike was the correct play, lynching me was the correct play... do i need to continue?


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Re: Black Metal Mafia - D3

Postby SoN!c on Wed Jan 29, 2025 5:13 pm

And your vote was switched from Dev to Max just moments before N2... it doesn't add up that you genuinly would vote Max for real but overnight Strike gets killed..and because of that (nothing else happened right?) the first thing you do in the morning is voting EW??
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