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Re: Black Metal Mafia - D2

Postby SoN!c on Sun Jan 19, 2025 6:32 am

jfm10 wrote:JFM who posted his non random assigned scum roles 1000 times all the sudden saying Max and me (from his town list) are the original scumpair??? And you being blind to it? That's a big red flag. Then saying Charle may choose the lynch (but if you read it, it really says "but Charle has to choose SoN!c"...). That is steering others,and steering is not true town action.

When did I ever say max was scum?
From a sonic quote.


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why can't Sonic and Max be scum and they recruited Strike?
If Sonic is scum on a lynch then vote Stike tomorrow as they could likely do it on their own
I am not saying in any way their is a cop but if Sonic is scum
For those labeled town you are not good enough for ragians scum party and the remaining 4 are who the 2 scum would have chosen from.
Meaning at least 1 non town is scum.
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Re: Black Metal Mafia - D2

Postby jfm10 on Sun Jan 19, 2025 6:39 am

SoN!c wrote:
jfm10 wrote:JFM who posted his non random assigned scum roles 1000 times all the sudden saying Max and me (from his town list) are the original scumpair??? And you being blind to it? That's a big red flag. Then saying Charle may choose the lynch (but if you read it, it really says "but Charle has to choose SoN!c"...). That is steering others,and steering is not true town action.

When did I ever say max was scum?
From a sonic quote.


jfm10 wrote:
why can't Sonic and Max be scum and they recruited Strike?
If Sonic is scum on a lynch then vote Stike tomorrow as they could likely do it on their own
I am not saying in any way their is a cop but if Sonic is scum
For those labeled town you are not good enough for ragians scum party and the remaining 4 are who the 2 scum would have chosen from.
Meaning at least 1 non town is scum.

Read the small lines and when you get to the remaining 4 part remember it's remaining 3 now.
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Re: Black Metal Mafia - D2

Postby jfm10 on Sun Jan 19, 2025 8:00 am

Extreme Ways wrote:I use mafia wolves scum all regardless of the flavour fwiw.

Sonic's emotional reaction makes sense.
Jfm's pivot to Sonic's "scumbuddy" does not make sense. Jfm posted more than just that reasoning, but if you think X is Y's buddy as a reason for suspicion, it requires that Y flips mafia first.


If sonic flipped town today then players could hold me on strike should be voted tomorrow. That is why I changed vote to kong so if I am lynched today then town will know who I think the scum pair is. If there are 3 scum then the 3rd should be on the town side of my list.
If 2 labelled town were original scum partners they would have to recruit you ( my personal choice as I have never been scum ) or strike.
If sonic is scum then I think he would have gone with just his partner if it was one of the 6 non labelled town.
I don't believe loose is scum but if there is a third scum it would put him at the top of the list.
If strike or EW started as scum then they would have recruited the other just to contain sonic.
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Re: Black Metal Mafia - D2

Postby Loose Canon on Sun Jan 19, 2025 11:38 am

I can give my opinions on the alignment of players without it being evidence of my alignment whether I turn out to be right or wrong.
I've already been wrong on Pixar this game, although I think I did say my opinion was instinctive (or mainly).

On Max I edge town because doubling down/tunnelling his supsicion of Charle D1 and the way he did it was to me reminiscent of what he did when Mason with me in Charles game.
That's my opinion with the evidence I cite that leads me to it.
Assess the quality or otherwise of the opinion and the honesty or not of the opinion (Sonic)

I've not cited any opinion on JFM, I'm circumspect on JFM;
I believe Rag chose the band members he wanted and assigned the players randomly to those bandmembers with some background flavour for each.
I believe he then assigned the alignment and roles randomly.
Both me and JFM are as we say/claim members of the Immortals and both know the band broke up on tour and have said so - I have broken it upon this tour - that's part of my flavour - I'm notorious for this.
We could both be scum, both town, or one of each.

Would a scum JFM have also mentioned he was in the immortals and the band breaking up is my question to myself and others?
I personally think marginally less likely for a scum JFM to have done so.
But I'm mostly circumspect about JFM and expect he is about me too.
I'm happy for you all to press JFM though.
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Re: Black Metal Mafia - D1

Postby Ragian on Sun Jan 19, 2025 3:36 pm

Official vote count - corrected

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Son!c (1) - Loose,
Traf (1) - Strike
jfm (3) - kong, Son!c, strike
kong (2) - Max, jfm

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

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Re: Black Metal Mafia - D2

Postby TrafalgarLaw01 on Sun Jan 19, 2025 6:32 pm

I got Prod from Charle, Sorry everyone I had my birthday on Thursday and have been celebrating.

I think Pix got killed cause was obv town. When Charles slipped Pixar confirmed the ammount of messages townies got and what they said. So guess that scum had to kill him. It was a smart kill so that makes me thing at lest one strong scum player. then there is a lot of smoke going on
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Re: Black Metal Mafia - D2

Postby Loose Canon on Mon Jan 20, 2025 3:25 am

TrafalgarLaw01 wrote:I got Prod from Charle, Sorry everyone I had my birthday on Thursday and have been celebrating.

I think Pix got killed cause was obv town. When Charles slipped Pixar confirmed the ammount of messages townies got and what they said. So guess that scum had to kill him. It was a smart kill so that makes me thing at lest one strong scum player. then there is a lot of smoke going on


OK I didn't pick that up about Pix being confirmed town to rest of town. Kinda obvious now.
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Re: Black Metal Mafia - D1

Postby SoN!c on Mon Jan 20, 2025 3:57 am

Official vote count - "corrected"? - third time Strike gets double votes even on the 'corrected edit?

Ragian wrote:Official vote count - corrected

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Son!c (1) - Loose,
Traf (1) - Strike
jfm (3) - kong, Son!c, strike
kong (2) - Max, jfm

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

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Son!c (1) - Loose
jfm (3) - kong, SoN!c ,Strike
kong (2) - Max, jfm
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Re: Black Metal Mafia - D2

Postby Ragian on Mon Jan 20, 2025 5:34 am

Oh f*ck off!
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Re: Black Metal Mafia - D1

Postby Ragian on Mon Jan 20, 2025 5:35 am

Official vote count - corrected

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Son!c (1) - Loose,
jfm (3) - kong, Son!c, strike
kong (2) - Max, jfm

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

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Why don't you bother Traf with his saying that he was prodded by Charle? :evil:
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Re: Black Metal Mafia - D2

Postby Charle on Mon Jan 20, 2025 6:20 am

TrafalgarLaw01 wrote:I got Prod from Charle, Sorry everyone I had my birthday on Thursday and have been celebrating.

I think Pix got killed cause was obv town. When Charles slipped Pixar confirmed the ammount of messages townies got and what they said. So guess that scum had to kill him. It was a smart kill so that makes me thing at lest one strong scum player. then there is a lot of smoke going on


So how did that Prod feel Traf? Must have been a nice one, as I don't even know about it. I just had a small thrill down my spine knowing that something is happening! :)
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Re: Black Metal Mafia - D1

Postby Charle on Mon Jan 20, 2025 6:21 am

Ragian wrote:Official vote count - corrected

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Son!c (1) - Loose,
jfm (3) - kong, Son!c, strike
kong (2) - Max, jfm

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

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Why don't you bother Traf with his saying that he was prodded by Charle? :evil:
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Re: Black Metal Mafia - D2

Postby Charle on Mon Jan 20, 2025 6:28 am

Ok, let's see if we can get a claim out of jfm when he is at L-2. He is a good enough player to explain in that stage.

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Re: Black Metal Mafia - D1

Postby Ragian on Mon Jan 20, 2025 6:59 am

[quote="Ragian"]Official vote count

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Son!c (1) - Loose,
jfm (4) - kong, Son!c, strike, Charle - jfm is at L-2
kong (2) - Max, jfm

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

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Re: Black Metal Mafia - D2

Postby Loose Canon on Mon Jan 20, 2025 12:52 pm

We haven't (I don't think) heard anything from King or Dev lately.

My suspicion on Sonic has remained at a constant level, but my enthusiasm (he's a high poster) and my assessment of the likelihood of lynching him has waned.

I'm marginally thinking JFM is town and he's posted quite actively so I'm unlikely to join the pressure on him as things stand.

I'm neutral on who JFM has voted for (Kong). Kong is an active poster.

I remember how in a previous game (DDS I think it was) said (correctly) a helpful EW was a scum EW and I think EW was on the helpful side D1 so I've got to be a little bit suss on EW.
EW too is an active poster.

I want to know where King and Dev are standing before contemplating a switch of vote off of Sonic - if there were votes on either King or Dev, then right now I'd probably join such a BANDwagon for the hell of it - but there aren't - so Sonic still right now - I'm talented enough to go solo.
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Re: Black Metal Mafia - D2

Postby SoN!c on Mon Jan 20, 2025 2:34 pm

Nope. It was PMC who said that. In the Charle game...im sure you know. But acting a bit like you don't remember well now could always come in handy a bit later on doesn't it?


Unvote vote Loose Cannon


Also "im just ironing and signing T-shirts" is a very poor and bad defence.

PS: Claiming "to be happy everybody votes JFM" but also saying you think JFM is town at the same time (just 24 hours in between)?

Would a town Loose say neither fish nor flesh? Nope. Would a scummy Loose do that? Yuup.

PS2: All the sudden your vote depends on King and Dev??? What they think but saying you wanna switch your vote to them at the same time??? Switching vote to the absent players who can't defend themselves right now? I smell a scummy rat who is hoping Dev and King are out of town to save himself HOPING ratty reach N2 atm.
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Re: Black Metal Mafia - D2

Postby Loose Canon on Mon Jan 20, 2025 3:00 pm

You are playing at twisting words sonic
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Re: Black Metal Mafia - D2

Postby Loose Canon on Mon Jan 20, 2025 3:21 pm

I'm hamming up the flavour of being an arrogant rockstar, whilst sharing what suspicions I have.

You sonic are either town with no real suspicions or scum hamfisting a pretence of having some.
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Re: Black Metal Mafia - D2

Postby SoN!c on Mon Jan 20, 2025 3:41 pm

Is this a pure bluff, a stone-cold bluff or a semi-bluff Loose?

Im calling anyways.

If Max is original scum he would have recruited you.

*Pixar* wrote:Vote Max

If you are town, you would know Charle is telling the truth. Very sus that you wouldn't believe him, do you think he just made that stuff up? And mod would randomly give him a penalty for no reason?

> by *Pixar* on Thu Jan 02, 2025 9:25 pm

Then within 24 hours after Pix voting Max - and after he cleared Charle you started to place heavy sus on Pix.

The official vote count at that time being:

Official vote count:
Charle (3) - Max, kongming3, Loose
Max (2) - EW, Pixar
EW (1) - jfm

You realize everybody would be unvoting Charle after Pix cleared him so that would mean Max would have the most votes...right?

Then you post this:

Loose Canon wrote:I believe Charle is inherrently a Fair Player and I think his post pleading not to lynch him when there were 3 votes on him was a genuine post that an inherrently fair player would not have posted.(if it does turn out his soul has been darkened I blame it on all the black metal music he has been listening to - probably mine)
Having said that I'll probably leave my vote on him - take it as a fair play gesture making it an additional hurdle to be cleared for a D1 lynch (I'm pro D1 lynch in this game setup) to occur.

But I'll still offer my take on other players;


Max has struck a - you know what I think he might just be onto something here - chord with me a couple of times in this game.
The way he doubled down on his suspicions of Charle was to me reminiscent of how he was in mason chat with me ironically in Charle's game.
I think a lynch on Max would be a mislynch.


When Kong voted Charle I first of all thought OK so its not just me who sees validity in what max said and at the same time OK thats brave of Kong (foolhardy if he's Mafia).
After I said yesterday at least the votes on Charle have lured the scummy low posters it then occurred to me, hold on I wouldn't be surprised if Kong hadn't done it precisely to lure scum. He made an interesting (I mis-called it wrongly) town play last game and I think this may have been in the same vein.
I think Kong is Town.

Pix though - and this could be confirmation bias - is pinging on my scumdar more loudly now.
First of all it was just instinct.
But now...
He made his first post after I'd voted him on instinct - and it had a bit of an I need to say something feel about it.
He made his first vote after I unvoted him.
Either in my imagination or subconciously or less likely conciously he's acting like a twisted dark mirror image of me.


That being said if you want to vote out one of the three voting Charle - vote me - I'm vanilla so it won't do that much harm.
But in doing so and if it were to come off recognise that I think Max and Kong are probably town and that I most suspect Pix.



Post by Loose Canon on Fri Jan 03, 2025 5:30 pm


And "That being said if you want to vote out one of the three voting Charle - vote me - I'm vanilla so it won't do that much harm." did not sit right. Why would any townie say something like that? Vote me (while as town you cannot know the allignment of Kong and Max). So why saying "vote me"?

Was that a pure bluff or a a stone-cold bluff? Because it's a bluff 100%.

Let me guess; All you can say now is you will give me some IMMORTAL backstage passes ?
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Re: Black Metal Mafia - D2

Postby Loose Canon on Mon Jan 20, 2025 3:51 pm

No backstage pass you are not my kind of groupie sonic.
Signed t-shirt is best you can hope for. But don't get any ideas, it won't be one I've worn.
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Re: Black Metal Mafia - D2

Postby SoN!c on Mon Jan 20, 2025 4:01 pm

Keep the T-shirt. Immortal t-shirts are all Made in Barzoukistan. And poor quality on ironing i've heared.
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Re: Black Metal Mafia - D2

Postby TrafalgarLaw01 on Mon Jan 20, 2025 4:08 pm

Charle wrote:
TrafalgarLaw01 wrote:I got Prod from Charle, Sorry everyone I had my birthday on Thursday and have been celebrating.

I think Pix got killed cause was obv town. When Charles slipped Pixar confirmed the ammount of messages townies got and what they said. So guess that scum had to kill him. It was a smart kill so that makes me thing at lest one strong scum player. then there is a lot of smoke going on


So how did that Prod feel Traf? Must have been a nice one, as I don't even know about it. I just had a small thrill down my spine knowing that something is happening! :)


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Re: Black Metal Mafia - D2

Postby Loose Canon on Mon Jan 20, 2025 4:42 pm

True, they are crumpled and the other complaint is only one size - Loose fitting.
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Re: Black Metal Mafia - D2

Postby Ragian on Tue Jan 21, 2025 5:16 am

Meanwhile in Oslo

While it had been a few weeks since the horrendous murder of Euronymous, who was responsible for getting him into the band back in 1988, Hellhammer could find no outlet for his grief. He had tried writing, but nothing would materialise on the paper; he had tried talking, but the words weren't quite there; and he had tried composing, but everything sounded hollow.

Stumbling through the dark alleys of Oslo, he clutched what he believed to be his best friend at the moment. It was half empty, though. He sat down in a dimly lit alley and took a giant swig, the firy sensation travelling from mouth via throat and all the way down to the empty stomach. He looked up. The October night was beautiful. No clouds in the sky, and if it hadn't been for all the artificial lights of the city, he would've been able to see all the stars available on the night sky.

He closed his eyes. Probably should've worn more than my leather jacket over this T-shirt, he thought to himself. He opened his eyes and took another swig. The bottle was almost as empty as his heart. He tried getting up, but there was no persuading the feet. He sank into a heap. His eyelids grew heavier and heavier. He mustered a final bit of defiance and threw the bottle deeper into the alley. The final thing he heard before passing out was the bottle shattering under the freezing moon.

Hellhammer of Mayhem (kingm) and vanilla townie has frozen to death (mod kill due to lack of availability and no successful attempts at finding a replacement).



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Re: Black Metal Mafia - D1

Postby Ragian on Tue Jan 21, 2025 5:22 am

Official vote count

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Son!c (1) - Loose
jfm (3) - kong, strike, Charle
kong (2) - Max, jfm
Loose (1) - Son!c

With 10 alive, it (still) takes 6 to lynch.

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