Trump's AG pick is a pedo

[mookiemcgee]

How's Saxi feeling about Dr. Oz?

seeing alot of negativity about him in conservative circles, and I just don't understand it. Sure he's a charlatan, fraudster, scammer and snakeoil salesman but so is Trump and yall have anointed him god of republicans. What exactly did people expect would happen? What is the over/under on Dr. Phil being next in line?

[saxitoxin]

How's Saxi feeling about Dr. Oz?

The first Muslim director of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid in American history? Another diversity FIRST for Donald Trump!

Maybe let some joy in, and stop embracing hate?

[Pack Rat]

Dr. OZ and his neuro gum!

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTYYyqdEs/

Will Dr. Oz put gum on top of the food pyramid?

[kentington]

Yes, doctor Oz is a quack. He has long been known for that.

Back to the topic at hand. I really wish the DOJ would release their findings. Can't you use the Freedom of Information Act to view them? I mean they were voting on whether to release them right before he resigned. Would he have been resigning even without the appointment?

Sunny Hostin was commenting on it and overstepped the bounds of what you can say. He wasn't convicted and the case was closed with no charges made against Gaetz. I'm not in favor of a witch hunt by any means. The allegations that one prostitute/escort made was that she witnessed her friend and Gaetz having sex. She said her friend was 17 at the time. That seems to be easily verifiable information. (At least up until the sex)

Let's say that they can say beyond a shadow of a doubt that he didn't engage with minors. Why is anyone defending him? If we get caught as a 'John', then we get in trouble. I have seen a lot of conservatives say 'Rules for thee but not for me.' So far I have agreed with them. When Newsom and Pelosi disobeyed their own rules for Covid. But now we have this.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14104033/Sunny-Hostin-dejected-legal-note-View-Matt-Gaetz.html

[saxitoxin]

Yes, doctor Oz is a quack. He has long been known for that.

Back to the topic at hand. I really wish the DOJ would release their findings. Can't you use the Freedom of Information Act to view them? I mean they were voting on whether to release them right before he resigned. Would he have been resigning even without the appointment?

Sunny Hostin was commenting on it and overstepped the bounds of what you can say. He wasn't convicted and the case was closed with no charges made against Gaetz. I'm not in favor of a witch hunt by any means. The allegations that one prostitute/escort made was that she witnessed her friend and Gaetz having sex. She said her friend was 17 at the time. That seems to be easily verifiable information. (At least up until the sex)

Let's say that they can say beyond a shadow of a doubt that he didn't engage with minors. Why is anyone defending him? If we get caught as a 'John', then we get in trouble. I have seen a lot of conservatives say 'Rules for thee but not for me.' So far I have agreed with them. When Newsom and Pelosi disobeyed their own rules for Covid. But now we have this.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14104033/Sunny-Hostin-dejected-legal-note-View-Matt-Gaetz.html

I didn't realize the legal note came down that quickly! That means The View now has to have a team of attorneys watching what the ladies say and immediately drafting CYA scripts!

[saxitoxin]

The allegations that one prostitute/escort made was that she witnessed her friend and Gaetz having sex. She said her friend was 17 at the time. That seems to be easily verifiable information. (At least up until the sex)

At the end of the day, there's zero physical evidence. There is only the testimony of two anonymous prostitutes. In the Duke lacrosse rape and the Uva fraternity gang rape, the cases only unraveled once we knew the identity of the accusers and their suspicious patterns of behavior could be independently confirmed.

I would have no problem believing enough veracity of the Gaetz allegations that he should be disqualified if --

(a) The identity of the prostitutes were revealed so they could be fully backgrounded (Have they previously made accusations of this type against celebrities? Have they had deposits to their bank accounts from foreign governments? Is there any documentary proof they were either living in Florida or traveling through Florida on the date in question? Is there anyone else at the party who can recall seeing them there?)

(b) Venmo records were pulled to see if there was a transfer from Gaetz to one of the accusants on the night in question as they allege

The DOJ did both of these things (check the background of the accusants and check Venmo records). After doing that, they decided not to bring charges.

High profile people are frequently targets of fixated persons, blackmail schemes, etc. A bare minimum of evidence should be required before we believe any random accusation.

[kentington]

The allegations that one prostitute/escort made was that she witnessed her friend and Gaetz having sex. She said her friend was 17 at the time. That seems to be easily verifiable information. (At least up until the sex)

At the end of the day, there's zero physical evidence. There is only the testimony of two anonymous prostitutes. In the Duke lacrosse rape and the Uva fraternity gang rape, the cases only unraveled once we knew the identity of the accusers and their suspicious patterns of behavior could be independently confirmed.

I would have no problem believing enough veracity of the Gaetz allegations that he should be disqualified if --

(a) The identity of the prostitutes were revealed so they could be fully backgrounded (Have they previously made accusations of this type against celebrities? Have they had deposits to their bank accounts from foreign governments? Is there any documentary proof they were either living in Florida or traveling through Florida on the date in question? Is there anyone else at the party who can recall seeing them there?)

(b) Venmo records were pulled to see if there was a transfer from Gaetz to one of the accusants on the night in question as they allege

The DOJ did both of these things (check the background of the accusants and check Venmo records). After doing that, they decided not to bring charges.

High profile people are frequently targets of fixated persons, blackmail schemes, etc. A bare minimum of evidence should be required before we believe any random accusation.

Agreed. I am not calling him guilty. I am saying that all of that information is verifiable and that if any of it was true that is pretty damning. Not just the sex with a minor part.

They already did the investigation, they could have released the information but he resigned first. If he is not guilty at all, then it would have benefited him to wait a small amount of time before resigning.

Also, if people feel there really is evidence they should use the FOIA and release the report. It would clear the air completely. I am guessing he may not have been found guilty of the big thing, but that there were smaller things that looked bad and he doesn't want even that out. (Total speculation on my part)

[Lonous]

[jusplay4fun]

The allegations that one prostitute/escort made was that she witnessed her friend and Gaetz having sex. She said her friend was 17 at the time. That seems to be easily verifiable information. (At least up until the sex)

At the end of the day, there's zero physical evidence. There is only the testimony of two anonymous prostitutes. In the Duke lacrosse rape and the Uva fraternity gang rape, the cases only unraveled once we knew the identity of the accusers and their suspicious patterns of behavior could be independently confirmed.

I would have no problem believing enough veracity of the Gaetz allegations that he should be disqualified if --

(a) The identity of the prostitutes were revealed so they could be fully backgrounded (Have they previously made accusations of this type against celebrities? Have they had deposits to their bank accounts from foreign governments? Is there any documentary proof they were either living in Florida or traveling through Florida on the date in question? Is there anyone else at the party who can recall seeing them there?)

(b) Venmo records were pulled to see if there was a transfer from Gaetz to one of the accusants on the night in question as they allege

The DOJ did both of these things (check the background of the accusants and check Venmo records). After doing that, they decided not to bring charges.

High profile people are frequently targets of fixated persons, blackmail schemes, etc. A bare minimum of evidence should be required before we believe any random accusation.

Agreed. I am not calling him guilty. I am saying that all of that information is verifiable and that if any of it was true that is pretty damning. Not just the sex with a minor part.

They already did the investigation, they could have released the information but he resigned first. If he is not guilty at all, then it would have benefited him to wait a small amount of time before resigning.

Also, if people feel there really is evidence they should use the FOIA and release the report. It would clear the air completely. I am guessing he may not have been found guilty of the big thing, but that there were smaller things that looked bad and he doesn't want even that out. (Total speculation on my part)

I mostly agree with Kent. I said earlier that it look very suspicious that Gaetz resigned before the report was finalized and released. I am NOT sure there was a final report to be released by FOIA. There may have been and likely a DRAFT report, but I am not sure that raises to the level of a "Report" to be released via FOIA.

I think the point that Speaker Johnson is making is that releasing the report, draft or whatever, is that doing so is against precedent. Releasing that information/report would set a new and potentially dangerous precedent. I think, however, that most who resign do not attempt to go on to an even more high profile job. Most resign and slink away in disgrace and are not in the public eye any more.

[saxitoxin]

Gaetz is gone and that means Kahn is probably out at the FTC. Liberals don't want what they tell their voters they want ...

Gaetz was the most pro-consumer, anti-big tech, anti-surveillance, pro-FTC House Republican by far and ofc libs cheer for his removal and we instead get a former Silicon Valley lobbyist for AG. On every corporate power issue at stake Bondi has a less progressive record.

https://x.com/lhfang/status/18597614453 ... 0Vqhw&s=19

[Pack Rat]

Gaetz is gone and that means Kahn is probably out at the FTC. Liberals don't want what they tell their voters they want ...

Gaetz was the most pro-consumer, anti-big tech, anti-surveillance, pro-FTC House Republican by far and ofc libs cheer for his removal and we instead get a former Silicon Valley lobbyist for AG. On every corporate power issue at stake Bondi has a less progressive record.

https://x.com/lhfang/status/18597614453 ... 0Vqhw&s=19

It's obvious that Saxi is digging deep in the "X" to explain his support for a pedophile.