My Cross-Map Medal Score is off by one

[Votanic]

I've checked a few more and 2 out of three players have the same problem.

Nucker - CC 140 MapRank 142
bplp49 - CC 159 MapRank 161

Thank you. Good to know.

Admin seems fit to ignore my pleas, ...but can they ignore the desperate screams of the CC masses cruelly cheated of their rightful medal points!!!

[Votanic]

Still hoping that a full-scale investigation will be launched to find, identify, and correct this dire discrepency in my Cross-Map Medam Count.

You have my blessing to exert every effort and spare no expense in noble pursuit of this important cause. Godspeed.

[chipv]

I will take a look

[Votanic]

I will take a look

! ...Thanks.

[chipv]

Right now, we're counting 178 for you:

Each row is Map id, Map Name, Count Unique Opponents Defeated, Cumulative Count of Maps with >= 5 Unique Opponents Defeated

Code: Select all

1,Classic,39,1
2,Africa,6,2
3,Age Of Merchants,0,2
4,Age Of Realms 1: Might,1,2
5,Age Of Realms 2: Magic,1,2
6,Age Of Realms 3: Mayhem,3,2
7,Alexander's Empire,7,3
8,American Civil War,7,4
9,Ancient Greece,6,5
10,Archipelago,5,6
11,Arctic,9,7
12,Arms Race!,5,8
13,Far East,2,8
14,Australia,6,9
15,Bamboo Jack,5,10
16,Battle For Iraq!,3,10
17,Battle Of Actium,5,11
18,BeNeLux,5,12
19,Berlin 1961,5,13
20,Brazil,2,13
21,British Isles,15,14
22,Cairns Coral Coast,5,15
23,Cairns Metro,1,15
24,Canada,6,16
25,Caribbean Islands,7,17
26,CCU,1,17
27,Charleston,5,18
28,Chinese Checkers,7,19
29,Circus Maximus,6,20
30,The Citadel,1,20
31,City Mogul,3,20
32,Conquer 4,1,20
33,Conquer Man,11,21
34,Crossword,1,21
35,D-Day: Omaha Beach!,5,22
36,Discworld,5,23
37,Doodle Earth,23,24
38,Draknor - Level 1,7,25
39,Duck And Cover,11,26
40,Dust Bowl,5,27
41,Egypt: Lower,6,28
42,Egypt: Nubia,5,29
43,Egypt: Upper,5,30
44,Egypt: Valley Of The Kings,9,31
45,Europa,7,32
46,Europe,3,32
47,Europe 1914,7,33
48,Extreme Global Warming,19,34
49,Feudal War,7,35
50,Forbidden City,5,36
51,France,5,37
52,France 1789,1,37
53,Germany,2,37
54,Great Lakes,6,38
55,Greater China,5,39
56,Haiti,5,40
57,Halloween Hollows,5,41
58,High Seas,9,42
59,Holy Roman Empire,6,43
60,Hong Kong,1,43
61,Iberia,14,44
62,Iceland,5,45
63,Imperium Romanum,1,45
64,Indochina,6,46
65,Ireland,6,47
66,Italy,5,48
67,King Of The Mountains,3,48
68,Luxembourg,31,49
69,Madagascar,5,50
70,Madness,2,50
71,Malta,6,51
72,Middle East,7,52
73,Midgard,5,53
74,Midkemdil,5,54
75,Mongol Empire,1,54
76,Montreal,5,55
77,Netherlands,9,56
78,New World,7,57
79,North America,6,58
80,NYC,1,58
81,Oasis,5,59
82,Operation Drug War,6,60
83,Pearl Harbor,5,61
84,Philippines,13,62
85,Poker Club,9,63
86,Portugal,5,64
87,Prohibition Chicago,5,65
88,Puget Sound,1,65
89,Rail Australia,1,65
90,Rail Europe,8,66
91,Rail USA,2,66
92,Saint Patrick's Day,5,67
93,San Francisco,6,68
94,San Marino,8,69
95,Scotland,5,70
96,Siege!,5,71
97,Solar System,12,72
98,South America,5,73
99,Soviet Union,5,74
100,Space,5,75
101,Supermax: Prison Riot!,0,75
102,Sydney Metro,5,76
103,Tamriel,1,76
104,Texan Wars,9,77
105,Treasures Of Galapagos,6,78
106,Triple Alliance,3,78
107,USA,5,79
108,USA Great Lakes,9,80
109,USA New England,6,81
110,USA Rockies,5,82
111,USA Southeast,6,83
112,USA Southwest,6,84
113,USA West,7,85
114,USApocalypse,2,85
115,U.S. Senate,5,86
116,Wales,3,86
117,Waterloo,3,86
118,World 2.1,41,87
119,WWI Ottoman Empire,6,88
120,WWII Ardennes,3,88
121,WWII Australia,5,89
122,WWII Eastern Front,3,89
123,WWII Europe,2,89
124,WWII Gazala,5,90
125,WWII Iwo Jima,5,91
126,WWII Western Front,5,92
127,8 Thoughts,11,93
128,Das Schloss,6,94
129,Eastern Hemisphere,6,95
130,Peloponnesian War,10,96
131,Oceania,5,97
132,Land And Sea,5,98
133,Castle Lands,7,99
134,Greenland,5,100
135,Indian Empire,5,101
136,Poison Rome,1,101
137,Gilgamesh,2,101
139,Vancouver,7,102
140,Austerlitz,5,103
141,Route 66,6,104
142,First Nations North America,21,105
143,England,5,106
144,Third Crusade,0,106
145,WWII Poland,2,106
146,Jamaica,15,107
147,Rail Africa,3,107
148,Feudal Epic,5,108
150,Chicago,3,108
151,Hive,3,108
152,Fractured America,11,109
153,Atlantis,5,110
154,Japan,7,111
155,13 Colonies,6,112
156,Monsters,0,112
157,Dawn Of Ages,5,113
158,Nordic Countries,7,114
159,Unification Germany,8,115
160,Unification Italy,6,116
161,Woodboro,6,117
162,Central America,5,118
163,Flanders 1302,7,119
164,2014 World Cup,6,120
165,Macedonia,7,121
166,Stalingrad,11,122
167,Napoleonic Europe,7,123
168,Thyseneal,3,123
169,Cricket,5,124
170,Lunar War,6,125
171,Orient Express 1883,0,125
172,Cyprus,5,126
173,México,5,127
174,First Nations South America,8,128
175,Celtic Nations,5,129
176,King's Court,0,129
177,Christmas,7,130
178,Balkan Peninsula,5,131
179,Clandemonium,0,131
180,South Africa 1885,5,132
181,Middle Ages,6,133
182,First Nations Americas,3,133
183,Transsib 1914,5,134
184,Thailand,2,134
185,Baseball,1,134
186,Antarctica,1,134
187,Northwest Passage,0,134
188,Easter,13,135
189,2011 World Cup,2,135
190,Austro-Hungarian Empire,1,135
191,Golfe Du Saint-Laurent,7,136
192,Three Kingdoms Of Korea,0,136
193,California,8,137
194,Fractured China,6,138
195,Yugoslavia,5,139
196,Quad Cities,5,140
197,Trafalgar,11,141
198,Steamworks,5,142
199,Conquer Rome,0,142
200,Portland,5,143
201,Rorke's Drift,9,144
202,Tribal War - Florida,0,144
203,Colosseum,0,144
204,All Your Base Are Belong To Us,1,144
205,Classic Cities: Istanbul,1,144
206,Kingdom Of Denmark,1,144
207,Patch Wars,1,144
208,Cuban Missile Crisis,0,144
209,Classic Cities: London,5,145
210,Island Of Doom,5,146
211,Knights,0,146
212,Africa II,7,147
213,Salem's Switch,6,148
214,Rail Asia,0,148
215,King's Court II,1,148
216,Eurasia,9,149
217,Eurasia Mini,2,149
218,1982,5,150
219,Dark Continent,5,151
220,Trench Warfare,9,152
221,New Jersey,8,153
222,Copenhagen,1,153
223,Classic Cities: Jakarta,2,153
224,Classic Cities: Sydney,0,153
225,Classic Cities: Pot Mosbi,27,154
226,Magyarország,6,155
227,Baltic Crusades,8,156
228,New Zealand,9,157
229,Classic Cities: Madrid,7,158
230,Philadelphia,5,159
231,Classic Cities: Moscow,1,159
232,Czecho Slovak Fragmentation,3,159
233,Labyrinth,8,160
234,Conquer 500,3,160
235,USA 2.1,6,161
236,Vertex,5,162
237,Austrum,5,163
238,4 Star Meats,16,164
239,Tribal War - Ancient Israel,2,164
240,Three Kingdoms of China,5,165
241,Spanish Armada,5,166
242,Krazy Kingdoms,5,167
243,Ethiopia,5,168
244,WWI Gallipoli,7,169
245,Promontory Summit,6,170
246,District of Alaska,3,170
247,France 2.1,9,171
248,The Temple of Jinn,13,172
249,Rail South America,12,173
253,Slovakia,5,174
254,Baltic States,7,175
256,Pirates and Merchants,5,176
258,2015 World Cup,2,176
259,Ziggurat,3,176
261,Trafalaxy,2,176
262,Pi-School,1,176
264,New York 1695,6,177
265,Classic Conquest,6,178

These stats are filtered though - the games must be scored so no bot games, coach games, scenarios, or otherwise unscored games.

[Votanic]

Right now, we're counting 178 for you:

Each row is Map id, Map Name, Count Unique Opponents Defeated, Cumulative Count of Maps with >= 5 Unique Opponents Defeated

Code: Select all

1,Classic,39,1
2,Africa,6,2
3,Age Of Merchants,0,2
4,Age Of Realms 1: Might,1,2
5,Age Of Realms 2: Magic,1,2
6,Age Of Realms 3: Mayhem,3,2
7,Alexander's Empire,7,3
8,American Civil War,7,4
9,Ancient Greece,6,5
10,Archipelago,5,6
11,Arctic,9,7
12,Arms Race!,5,8
13,Far East,2,8
14,Australia,6,9
15,Bamboo Jack,5,10
16,Battle For Iraq!,3,10
17,Battle Of Actium,5,11
18,BeNeLux,5,12
19,Berlin 1961,5,13
20,Brazil,2,13
21,British Isles,15,14
22,Cairns Coral Coast,5,15
23,Cairns Metro,1,15
24,Canada,6,16
25,Caribbean Islands,7,17
26,CCU,1,17
27,Charleston,5,18
28,Chinese Checkers,7,19
29,Circus Maximus,6,20
30,The Citadel,1,20
31,City Mogul,3,20
32,Conquer 4,1,20
33,Conquer Man,11,21
34,Crossword,1,21
35,D-Day: Omaha Beach!,5,22
36,Discworld,5,23
37,Doodle Earth,23,24
38,Draknor - Level 1,7,25
39,Duck And Cover,11,26
40,Dust Bowl,5,27
41,Egypt: Lower,6,28
42,Egypt: Nubia,5,29
43,Egypt: Upper,5,30
44,Egypt: Valley Of The Kings,9,31
45,Europa,7,32
46,Europe,3,32
47,Europe 1914,7,33
48,Extreme Global Warming,19,34
49,Feudal War,7,35
50,Forbidden City,5,36
51,France,5,37
52,France 1789,1,37
53,Germany,2,37
54,Great Lakes,6,38
55,Greater China,5,39
56,Haiti,5,40
57,Halloween Hollows,5,41
58,High Seas,9,42
59,Holy Roman Empire,6,43
60,Hong Kong,1,43
61,Iberia,14,44
62,Iceland,5,45
63,Imperium Romanum,1,45
64,Indochina,6,46
65,Ireland,6,47
66,Italy,5,48
67,King Of The Mountains,3,48
68,Luxembourg,31,49
69,Madagascar,5,50
70,Madness,2,50
71,Malta,6,51
72,Middle East,7,52
73,Midgard,5,53
74,Midkemdil,5,54
75,Mongol Empire,1,54
76,Montreal,5,55
77,Netherlands,9,56
78,New World,7,57
79,North America,6,58
80,NYC,1,58
81,Oasis,5,59
82,Operation Drug War,6,60
83,Pearl Harbor,5,61
84,Philippines,13,62
85,Poker Club,9,63
86,Portugal,5,64
87,Prohibition Chicago,5,65
88,Puget Sound,1,65
89,Rail Australia,1,65
90,Rail Europe,8,66
91,Rail USA,2,66
92,Saint Patrick's Day,5,67
93,San Francisco,6,68
94,San Marino,8,69
95,Scotland,5,70
96,Siege!,5,71
97,Solar System,12,72
98,South America,5,73
99,Soviet Union,5,74
100,Space,5,75
101,Supermax: Prison Riot!,0,75
102,Sydney Metro,5,76
103,Tamriel,1,76
104,Texan Wars,9,77
105,Treasures Of Galapagos,6,78
106,Triple Alliance,3,78
107,USA,5,79
108,USA Great Lakes,9,80
109,USA New England,6,81
110,USA Rockies,5,82
111,USA Southeast,6,83
112,USA Southwest,6,84
113,USA West,7,85
114,USApocalypse,2,85
115,U.S. Senate,5,86
116,Wales,3,86
117,Waterloo,3,86
118,World 2.1,41,87
119,WWI Ottoman Empire,6,88
120,WWII Ardennes,3,88
121,WWII Australia,5,89
122,WWII Eastern Front,3,89
123,WWII Europe,2,89
124,WWII Gazala,5,90
125,WWII Iwo Jima,5,91
126,WWII Western Front,5,92
127,8 Thoughts,11,93
128,Das Schloss,6,94
129,Eastern Hemisphere,6,95
130,Peloponnesian War,10,96
131,Oceania,5,97
132,Land And Sea,5,98
133,Castle Lands,7,99
134,Greenland,5,100
135,Indian Empire,5,101
136,Poison Rome,1,101
137,Gilgamesh,2,101
139,Vancouver,7,102
140,Austerlitz,5,103
141,Route 66,6,104
142,First Nations North America,21,105
143,England,5,106
144,Third Crusade,0,106
145,WWII Poland,2,106
146,Jamaica,15,107
147,Rail Africa,3,107
148,Feudal Epic,5,108
150,Chicago,3,108
151,Hive,3,108
152,Fractured America,11,109
153,Atlantis,5,110
154,Japan,7,111
155,13 Colonies,6,112
156,Monsters,0,112
157,Dawn Of Ages,5,113
158,Nordic Countries,7,114
159,Unification Germany,8,115
160,Unification Italy,6,116
161,Woodboro,6,117
162,Central America,5,118
163,Flanders 1302,7,119
164,2014 World Cup,6,120
165,Macedonia,7,121
166,Stalingrad,11,122
167,Napoleonic Europe,7,123
168,Thyseneal,3,123
169,Cricket,5,124
170,Lunar War,6,125
171,Orient Express 1883,0,125
172,Cyprus,5,126
173,México,5,127
174,First Nations South America,8,128
175,Celtic Nations,5,129
176,King's Court,0,129
177,Christmas,7,130
178,Balkan Peninsula,5,131
179,Clandemonium,0,131
180,South Africa 1885,5,132
181,Middle Ages,6,133
182,First Nations Americas,3,133
183,Transsib 1914,5,134
184,Thailand,2,134
185,Baseball,1,134
186,Antarctica,1,134
187,Northwest Passage,0,134
188,Easter,13,135
189,2011 World Cup,2,135
190,Austro-Hungarian Empire,1,135
191,Golfe Du Saint-Laurent,7,136
192,Three Kingdoms Of Korea,0,136
193,California,8,137
194,Fractured China,6,138
195,Yugoslavia,5,139
196,Quad Cities,5,140
197,Trafalgar,11,141
198,Steamworks,5,142
199,Conquer Rome,0,142
200,Portland,5,143
201,Rorke's Drift,9,144
202,Tribal War - Florida,0,144
203,Colosseum,0,144
204,All Your Base Are Belong To Us,1,144
205,Classic Cities: Istanbul,1,144
206,Kingdom Of Denmark,1,144
207,Patch Wars,1,144
208,Cuban Missile Crisis,0,144
209,Classic Cities: London,5,145
210,Island Of Doom,5,146
211,Knights,0,146
212,Africa II,7,147
213,Salem's Switch,6,148
214,Rail Asia,0,148
215,King's Court II,1,148
216,Eurasia,9,149
217,Eurasia Mini,2,149
218,1982,5,150
219,Dark Continent,5,151
220,Trench Warfare,9,152
221,New Jersey,8,153
222,Copenhagen,1,153
223,Classic Cities: Jakarta,2,153
224,Classic Cities: Sydney,0,153
225,Classic Cities: Pot Mosbi,27,154
226,Magyarország,6,155
227,Baltic Crusades,8,156
228,New Zealand,9,157
229,Classic Cities: Madrid,7,158
230,Philadelphia,5,159
231,Classic Cities: Moscow,1,159
232,Czecho Slovak Fragmentation,3,159
233,Labyrinth,8,160
234,Conquer 500,3,160
235,USA 2.1,6,161
236,Vertex,5,162
237,Austrum,5,163
238,4 Star Meats,16,164
239,Tribal War - Ancient Israel,2,164
240,Three Kingdoms of China,5,165
241,Spanish Armada,5,166
242,Krazy Kingdoms,5,167
243,Ethiopia,5,168
244,WWI Gallipoli,7,169
245,Promontory Summit,6,170
246,District of Alaska,3,170
247,France 2.1,9,171
248,The Temple of Jinn,13,172
249,Rail South America,12,173
253,Slovakia,5,174
254,Baltic States,7,175
256,Pirates and Merchants,5,176
258,2015 World Cup,2,176
259,Ziggurat,3,176
261,Trafalaxy,2,176
262,Pi-School,1,176
264,New York 1695,6,177
265,Classic Conquest,6,178

These stats are filtered though - the games must be scored so no bot games, coach games, scenarios, or otherwise unscored games.

Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!
This is the nicest thing anyone has ever done for me, ...at least on CC.

And, after perusing the list I believe I have uncovered the map and specific game that is not being counted.

It is Game #23012168, a three-player game on the Europe map, that I won. If that game were counted, I would have 5 wins on that map.
But since it appears not to be counted, I only have 3 recorded wins, on the CC list.

So what should I do now? File a ticket?

[chipv]

It's not counted because it is unscored.

"the games must be scored so no bot games, coach games, scenarios, or otherwise unscored games."

I looked at the game and it literally says

Game #23012168: 3 Players, Standard, Escalating, Sequential, Chained, Trench, UNSCORED

Looking at the log, looks like both players were kicked for missing turns so this must be why it is uncounted as you technically defeated zero opponents.

I don't think a ticket is needed now.

[Votanic]

It's not counted because it is unscored.

"the games must be scored so no bot games, coach games, scenarios, or otherwise unscored games."

I looked at the game and it literally says

Game #23012168: 3 Players, Standard, Escalating, Sequential, Chained, Trench, UNSCORED

Looking at the log, looks like both players were kicked for missing turns so this must be why it is uncounted as you technically defeated zero opponents.

I don't think a ticket is needed now.

Admittedly, the game in question is an uninspiring festival of deadbeating, but I am curious how it crossed a line into becoming officially UNSCORED.
Indeed, the Blue player actually did play three rounds before becoming a no-show. I know there are countless other games that end with deadbeating (speed games are notorious for this.) and most of them don't become unscored.

I also wonder if this was an automatic unscoring, ...or did some admin have a momentary moral panic and got personally involved?

In any case, I'm not going to sweat the points. I'll play another game on that map some day.
I'm just glad that the (primary) mystery has been solved.

One more question: Why are there 265 maps listed on that official list, but only 257 maps listed on the visible website list.
What am I missing? Are some maps double-counted? I didn't notice any.

Okay, I answered that question. There are numeric gaps on the other list. There is no 138, 250, 251, 252 255, 257, 260 and 263.

So now I have other questions. Have some maps been removed from the site? ...and if so what were they?

Late edit: Also, no 149.

[chipv]

I also wonder if this was an automatic unscoring, ...or did some admin have a momentary moral panic and got personally involved?

I doubt anyone was able to manually intervene, probably not worth the effort to go back and check.
I think it is a reasonable precaution to prevent scoring of games where all of your opponents deadbeat to prevent point abuse.

In any case, I'm not going to sweat the points. I'll play another game on that map some day.
I'm just glad that the (primary) mystery has been solved.

That sounds the best way forward.

One more question: Why are there 265 maps listed on that official list, but only 257 maps listed on the visible website list.
What am I missing? Are some maps double-counted? I didn't notice any.

Okay, I answered that question. There are numeric gaps on the other list. There is no 138, 250, 251, 252 255, 257, 260 and 263.

So now I have other questions. Have some maps been removed from the site? ...and if so what were they?

I think this should be a question for the Foundry rather than continuing this bug report which I think can be closed.
The reason why I say that is I was unable to find this information from the available resources,
and I think it would be good to have an indexed list which contains the map ID.
This exists: viewtopic.php?f=358&t=79067 but is not indexed by map ID.
The Foundry may be able to point you at other resources also.

[plurple]

I also wonder if this was an automatic unscoring, ...or did some admin have a momentary moral panic and got personally involved?

I doubt anyone was able to manually intervene, probably not worth the effort to go back and check.
I think it is a reasonable precaution to prevent scoring of games where all of your opponents deadbeat to prevent point abuse.

In any case, I'm not going to sweat the points. I'll play another game on that map some day.
I'm just glad that the (primary) mystery has been solved.

That sounds the best way forward.

One more question: Why are there 265 maps listed on that official list, but only 257 maps listed on the visible website list.
What am I missing? Are some maps double-counted? I didn't notice any.

Okay, I answered that question. There are numeric gaps on the other list. There is no 138, 250, 251, 252 255, 257, 260 and 263.

So now I have other questions. Have some maps been removed from the site? ...and if so what were they?

I think this should be a question for the Foundry rather than continuing this bug report which I think can be closed.
The reason why I say that is I was unable to find this information from the available resources,
and I think it would be good to have an indexed list which contains the map ID.
This exists: viewtopic.php?f=358&t=79067 but is not indexed by map ID.
The Foundry may be able to point you at other resources also.

I was curious and have done a little digging took me a few minutes but I have access to the id's I will make a post in the foundry with a list of the maps and there id's will take me a little while so won't be till I have time at the weekend

[chipv]

I was curious and have done a little digging took me a few minutes but I have access to the id's I will make a post in the foundry with a list of the maps and there id's will take me a little while so won't be till I have time at the weekend

Awesome, thanks!

[Votanic]

Yes, thank you, plurple.

[Votanic]

I was curious and have done a little digging took me a few minutes but I have access to the id's I will make a post in the foundry with a list of the maps and there id's will take me a little while so won't be till I have time at the weekend

Awesome, thanks!

Is this still going to happen? I would be curious to see the full list.

[plurple]

I was curious and have done a little digging took me a few minutes but I have access to the id's I will make a post in the foundry with a list of the maps and there id's will take me a little while so won't be till I have time at the weekend

Awesome, thanks!

Is this still going to happen? I would be curious to see the full list.

Yeah sorry been a bit busy is on my list of jobs to do this weekend along with trim the garden hedge and arrange to view some houses....

[Votanic]

I was curious and have done a little digging took me a few minutes but I have access to the id's I will make a post in the foundry with a list of the maps and there id's will take me a little while so won't be till I have time at the weekend

Awesome, thanks!

Is this still going to happen? I would be curious to see the full list.

Yeah sorry been a bit busy is on my list of jobs to do this weekend along with trim the garden hedge and arrange to view some houses....

Oh sure, ...when you have time, of course.

[plurple]

I was curious and have done a little digging took me a few minutes but I have access to the id's I will make a post in the foundry with a list of the maps and there id's will take me a little while so won't be till I have time at the weekend

Awesome, thanks!

Is this still going to happen? I would be curious to see the full list.

Yeah sorry been a bit busy is on my list of jobs to do this weekend along with trim the garden hedge and arrange to view some houses....

Oh sure, ...when you have time, of course.

Not sure how useful the list really is but here it is
viewtopic.php?f=649&t=241644